NativeCharm Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 Ahhh Me too know all about the Metis. Good ol' Winnipeg eh? How is David Chartrand doing anyway? lol Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
jdobbin Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 Ahhh Me too know all about the Metis. Good ol' Winnipeg eh? How is David Chartrand doing anyway? lol Most people don't know that Paul Martin Jr. has Metis heritage. Many people say that Chartrand won partly because Dumont is seen to be too close to the Conservatives and less a traditionalist than Chartrand. It was quite the battle. Quote
NativeCharm Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 Oh yes I am very aware of the battles in Metis homelands. My mother is a proud and active Metis living in the peg. I've always liked Yvonne Dumont, personally. Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
jdobbin Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 Oh yes I am very aware of the battles in Metis homelands. My mother is a proud and active Metis living in the peg. I've always liked Yvonne Dumont, personally. So what is a Metis and an Ojibway who have children become? Quote
NativeCharm Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 halfway? lol. well we share the same religion(Native) and there are many other commonalities with our culture. Land etc. I recognize my Cree side too, so if we had kids, they'd be mixed. I would do my best to ensure they had the best education possible on their heritage(s), and then hope they marry other Natives, lol. Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
Okwaho Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 [ Many events in the Bible actually occurred but the story has been altered over years and years of retelling - Oh really? Name me the Books, Chapters and Verses that have aledgedly been altered over the years and years of retelling. Quote
Okwaho Posted August 11, 2006 Report Posted August 11, 2006 Natives as caregivers of the land would ensure a guarantee on the future for all our children and their grandchildren as they would stand as the voice of reason and not the greedy minded cancerous corporations that are mass murdering the main essential ingredient to health and vitality.What is the difference between the stereotype you posted above and a stereotype that says all Natives are lazy drunks? Both stereotypes are wrong and encourage people to view others based on their race and not their worth as indiviuduals.Let me put it simply: any statement that goes something like "natives are ..." or "white people are.." is a racist statement even if that statement is intended to be positive. If you want to live in a society without racism you have to learn to stop using racism whenever it is convenient for you. And yes, I am picking on you everytime you make a racist statement on this forum because I am tired of racists like you running around and pretending that you are not racist. I don't really care if you are willing to listen to me or not because I know that others will read your insulting replies and will recogonize that I have a point - even if you insist on living in denial. A few of you are making the same "natives are ..." or "white people are.." statements. Explain to me how you are not racists. Quote
jdobbin Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 Oh really? Name me the Books, Chapters and Verses that have aledgedly been altered over the years and years of retelling. In 1920, scrolls were found in Egypt in Nag Hammadi. The scrolls date back to 150 AD. In those scrolls are the Gospel of Thomas that consists of the the sayings Jesus. These scrolls pre-date the Gospels that are the present bible. Quote
NativeCharm Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 Gotta love the new post our dear ol riverspin started "Native shakedown..." the same one that cries racist over and over is constantly proving over and over what a true racist he is. Fine specimen indeed. For all those that are going to insist on referring to me as an extremist or a racist, I would now prefer if you called me Native Supremist. It's probably more accurate considering that I constantly defend the things I admire of my heritage and what makes me proud of who I am. Wait wait wait, No I want to be an Extreme Native Supremist, it sounds more athletic. Yaaaaa that sounds good. Thanks in advance. Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
Riverwind Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 A few of you are making the same "natives are ..." or "white people are.." statements. Explain to me how you are not racists.They are racist statements no matter who utters them or for what purpose. I don't believe I have made such statements - if I have then I will correct them if someone points them out. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
jdobbin Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 halfway? lol. well we share the same religion(Native) and there are many other commonalities with our culture. Land etc. I recognize my Cree side too, so if we had kids, they'd be mixed. I would do my best to ensure they had the best education possible on their heritage(s), and then hope they marry other Natives, lol. There's the rub though. You can only do your best for any children. They will find their own way and who they love, marry and have children with. In the end, it is you who might come to their way of thinking rather than the other way around. I imagine it is the same with African, Asian or Caucasion families when their kids marry into a different cultural background. Gets even more compilcated if the kids are gay or transgendered. In the end, a parent comes to their child's point of view or risks losing them forever. An Elders wisdom is only respected if children are allowed to grow, to love and to have families of their own and are not inhibited by the prejudices of those who have not lived that type of life. Quote
NativeCharm Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 Riv dahlin...Omg there is NOt enough room in this thread to even BEGIN pointing out all your racist remarks. Not only that but it would take forever. maybe some of us could gather into teams and tackle this challenge. save time and space, don't wanna flood the board. Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
Riverwind Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 Gotta love the new post our dear ol riverspin started "Native shakedown..."You are correct, that title was an overgeneralization - it should have read "Six Nations" shakedown. I have asked the moderator to change the title. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
Riverwind Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 Riv dahlin...Omg there is NOt enough room in this thread to even BEGIN pointing out all your racist remarks. Not only that but it would take forever. maybe some of us could gather into teams and tackle this challenge. save time and space, don't wanna flood the board.I don't doubt that I have not lived up to own standards from time to time - however, I will at least acknowledge that I have made some racist statements and attempt to improve. You, on the other hand, refuse to even acknowledge the racism inherent in your statements. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
NativeCharm Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 Oh no Rev, I have made it very clear how "short my fuse is" thus implying that I am aware of my own actions. Not only that but I am now a self-entitled Extreme Native Supremist. So I'm better than everyone, now get off my pedestal.... Lol, and I hope I don't have to warn you in advance about the Cree's and their humour. Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
Okwaho Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 Oh really? Name me the Books, Chapters and Verses that have aledgedly been altered over the years and years of retelling. In 1920, scrolls were found in Egypt in Nag Hammadi. The scrolls date back to 150 AD. In those scrolls are the Gospel of Thomas that consists of the the sayings Jesus. These scrolls pre-date the Gospels that are the present bible. I'm not asking to hear about some obscure scrolls or secrets of the Da Vinci Code etc. Just the Books, Chapters and Verses that have aledgedly been altered over the years and years of retelling. Quote
NativeCharm Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 I'm not too well versed on the bible, but arent the alterations etc also known as "new testaments" etc? Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
Okwaho Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 I'm not too well versed on the bible, but arent the alterations etc also known as "new testaments" etc? There aren't any! Quote
Riverwind Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 I'm not asking to hear about some obscure scrolls or secrets of the Da Vinci Code etc. Just the Books, Chapters and Verses that have aledgedly been altered over the years and years of retelling.I take then that you believe that Jesus Christ was resurrected from dead three days after being crucified. This happened after a long career where Jesus performed a variety of feats that would generally be considered impossible by modern science such as turning water in wine. I pretty sure the actual events (if they really occurred) were quite different from the stories in the Bible. However, once they were written down they seemed have survived largely in tact because people could go back an check the orginals. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
jdobbin Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 I'm not asking to hear about some obscure scrolls or secrets of the Da Vinci Code etc. Just the Books, Chapters and Verses that have aledgedly been altered over the years and years of retelling. A recent Canadian translation of the bible uses both male and female monikers for God. Quote
jdobbin Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 I'm not too well versed on the bible, but arent the alterations etc also known as "new testaments" etc? Then there is the Book of Mormon. Quote
jdobbin Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 Forgive me if I'm wrong, why isn't Christianity rejected by some Natives as being a foreign invention used to subjugate them? Quote
NativeCharm Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 Remember we JUST in the past 30 years or so have been allowed to practice our religion again. People are converting and actualyl quite quickly. I prefer the term "returning" to their original religion (spirituality). Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
NativeCharm Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 This is interesting LINK Please sign and get all your friends and family to sign Quote It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.
geoffrey Posted August 12, 2006 Report Posted August 12, 2006 Remember we JUST in the past 30 years or so have been allowed to practice our religion again. People are converting and actualyl quite quickly. I prefer the term "returning" to their original religion (spirituality). Honest question, how were you stopped before? The Pope went to mass in occupied Poland, where it was illegal, actually, many Soviets practiced their religion despite a brutally despotic regime. The 'Traditional' (read: insane) Mormons pratice polygamy in Creston BC, despite it being illegal. How were you stopped, pray tell? Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
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