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Whaaa, Whaaaa, Whaaaa!!! Who's being childish? It's a public board isn't it?

Seko Tsi, Nia wen kowa onkarasea! Onhwentiakaionhro:non ono:wen Ronon:ha' iotkenho:ron ohonhsa' Onkenonha' owen:na' ononti:io Rotinonshonni ohaha Hao ki wahi rontatatekena

I think this shows that you have never travelled. A Visa is required just to visit very many countries - not merely for residency. That list showed both the countries that required a visitor's visa and those that don't. A visa is very much related to a passport, moron, one is dependant on the other. You can't even think of applying for a visa or being visa free without a passport from a country on their list. I needed a visa when I visited the Chech repubic years ago, and I didn't establish residency there. Since your 'nation' wasn't listed in either, then from that we can presume that the Dutch do not consider your sovereign nation a nation.... Tsi... take a poll of the 200+ countries in the world... ask them which one they think is a sovereign country, Canada, or the Six Nations. I think I can tell you overwhelmingly what the response is going to be. Now I can hear your response already.... you will say that their opinions don't matter.... well the concepts of sovereignty, nationhood, etc, are all human inventions. If 99% of the humans on this planet consider Canada a sovereign nation, and .001% consider the Six Nations a sovereriegn nation, then guess which one I am sticking with????? Visas are associated with residency and are required by some countries for passage in order to deter illegal aliens which is why not all countries require one. A passport is formal indentification and is used to identify an individual as a national of a particular state or country and requests passage in and out of countries. Wakey,wakey!!!

The Royal Proclamation and Haldimand Proclamation state otherwise. Only when you misinterpret it and take its arcaic english out of context!!! Look at the Map!!! http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/related/proc63.htm

You've done no such thing. Your interpretation of the Governor General's role is so inaccurate it could almost be funny if it wasn't so lame. It is most certainly time you came into the 21st century and accepted the reality that the Governor General is the representative of the Canadian Crown - NOT the British Crown. The fact that Canada makes its own laws, has control over its own constitution, and exercises and enforces sovereignty over its lands establishes the unarguable point that Canada is a sovereign nation. Further, the fact that parts of the Canadian constitution state explicitly that Native lands are under the sovereignty of the Crown establishes the unarguable point that Native lands are not themselves sovereign states - none of them. Other pertinent and obvious examples further supports that last point. The only people going round and round are those who have no concrete evidence, and, in the face of tangible examples presented to them in support of the other side of the argument, simply state that their tales and fables prove everything else to be wrong. It's completely obvious, really, who's actually going round and round like drunken children. It's hardly my interpretation of the GGs role it your own governments interpretation!!! Media The Role of the Governor General The role of the governor general dates back nearly 400 years to 1608 when Samuel de Champlain acted as the Governor of New France, establishing what has become the oldest continuing public office in Canada. Canada became a country at Confederation in 1867. Our system of government is a parliamentary democracy and a constitutional monarchy. Queen Elizabeth II is Queen of Canada and head of State. Sworn in on September 27, 2005, the Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean, 27th governor general since Confederation, represents the Crown in Canada and carries out the duties of head of State. The governor general presides over the swearing-in of the prime minister, the Chief Justice of Canada and cabinet ministers. One of the governor general's most important responsibilities is to ensure that Canada always has a prime minister and government in place. In the case of the death of a prime minister, it is the governor general's responsibility to ensure the continuity of government. The governor general has important parliamentary responsibilities. Canada's Parliament consists of three parts: the House of Commons, the Senate and the governor general. It is the governor general who summons Parliament, sets out the government's program by reading the Speech from the Throne, and gives Royal Assent which makes Acts of Parliament law. The governor general signs official documents and meets regularly with the prime minister and government officials. She has the right to be consulted, to encourage and to warn. The governor general is Commander in Chief of the Canadian Forces. http://www.gg.ca/media/fs-fd/G1_e.asp It is quite clear that the GG gives Royal Assent to make the laws in Canada. Queen Elizabeth II is Queen of Canada and head of State and the GG represents the Crown in Canada and carries out the duties of head of State (the Queen). So...who's twisting the facts? By the way "drunken children" appears very close to making a racial Freudian slip! Tisk, tisk!!! Ciao Bambi!

Court jester? Egypt, Jordan, and Turkey quite definitely recognizes the Israeli passport. I'm pretty sure much of your list, including Morocco (link) , does as well. Ahhh! Thank-you for correcting me and proving my point that not all countries recognize/accept an Iraeli passport. Countries that do not accept Israeli passport Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Comoros, Djibouti, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia (except with written permission from the Malaysian government), Maldives, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates (sources[citation needed] conflict over whether or not passports with Israeli stamps are accepted), and Yemen. The only non-Arab and non-Muslim country that does not accept Israel passports is North Korea.

What are you the court jester? Not every country recognizes the pass port of certain countries. For example: Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Mauritania, Morocco, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and North Korea do not recognize Israeli passports. Therefore by your "reasoning" Israel must not be a sovereign Nation and their passports must be bogus!!!

It has been proven to you so many times in many different ways. You really remind me of that shop keeper in the Mony Python parrot sketch. Too bad you aren't as funny. We have proven to you already that Canada is under British Sovereignty and therefore only has autonomy! The Goveror General's Role is the proof we have provided you which you conveniently deny and use the "figure head" defence. That means you are either deluded or the GG's Roles are still completely intact as the Governments website says it is! http://www.gg.ca/media/fs-fd/G1_e.asp We keep producing and yous keep denying and it's round , round you go!!!

A Visa has absolutely nothing to do with a passport you moron. A Visa is for residency in a country. A passport is to gain entry into a country.

It says prominently in your cited website that the French ceded the territories to the west of the thirteen colonies to the British at the end of the French and Indian War, but the Royal Proclamation limited the ability for the colonists to expand. It was that limitation which was partly to blame for the revolutionary war, and, as I said, once the US Americans issued their declaration of independence, the Royal Proclamation was rendered null and void within the United States, allowing the US Americans to expand westward uncontested - and slaughter a good number of Natives along the way. Compare that to the relatively peaceable westward expansion north of the border where the Royal Proclamation still applied, and still does apply today. Thus, Native lands now fall within the sovereignty of the Canadian Crown. Not unless they are ceded or surrended to the Crown!

, and in s. 2 (i) that a reserve is: So, by the very fact that the Six Nations on the Haldimand Tract receive monies from the Crown via a trust fund proves again that the territory belongs to the Canadian Crown, Six Nations are subject to Canadian laws (the Indian Act), and thus are not sovereign. This claim of Six Nations sovereignty has been going on for centuries - even just after the granting of Royal Assent to the Haldimand Proclamation in 1784, Joseph Brant asserted that the Proclamation gave Six Nations nationhood status, and full sovereignty over the Grand River lands. But, the British Government then stated clearly that that was not their intent: Later, in 1793, Lord Simcoe, Lieutenant-Governor of Upper Canada, gave Assent to the Simcoe Patent, but Brant refused to recognize its authority. 213 years after that Six Nations chiefs say the Simcoe Patent does affirm their claim to sovereignty over the Haldimand Tract! Still, neither the Haldimand Proclamation nor the Simcoe Patent does any such thing, and the claims have consistently been dismissed in court after court, all the way up to the British Privy Council when Canadians still had the ability to appeal to that body, and to the Supreme Court after that. The best part of it all is that the lands were given to the Six Nations in 1784 - prior to that the land belonged to the Mississaugas, was purchased from them by the Crown, and those Six Nations displaced from their previous lands which then lay within the United States were allowed to settle on it. The Haldimand Proclamation says as much plainly in its text: So much for your ancestral homeland, sovereignty based on self-determination, and the reliability of oral history!! And therein with all of your babled bedlam lies the first evidence of "Cultural Genocide"! The Indian Act is not even mentioned in your constitution because it is in total contradiction of our agreements that it protects! It is in fact your law breaking its own law! By the way...nice try on the Ours River quote! The name of the River refered to in the Royal Proc. is OUSE not Ours! The French named the river Grande Rivière in the 1700s and Simcoe renamed it Ouse after the Ouse river in England. Grande Rivière is still in use today under the anglicized pronounciation "Grand River." I find it quite comical that you would scoff at our oral history yet you can't understand your own written history! Then again maybe you don't want to because it reinforces our oral history! That seems to be the pattern here. We give you the evidence you ask for and you're never satisfied with it. It only goes to show...people only believe what they see but, when they see it they don't want to believe it!

Go for it!!! The question is...will you tell the true answer you recieve!

Six Nations are First Nations, are they not? I'm merely using the term First Nations in place of Indians - but I can use the latter if that's what you prefer, or is what is more accurate. Still, according to the Royal Proclamation, evidently all Native lands fall under the sovereignty of the Crown - read the quotes again, and pay attention to what is highlighted in italics. Regardless of whether or not Six Nations preceed the presence of the Crown in North America, today Six Nations are within the Crown's sovereignty, not their own. No! Indigenous lands do not fall under British Sovereignty. We've tried to explain this on numerous posts and threads. You are not reading it properly and taking most of it out of context! Here is a map that shows the land under British (east of the red line) control as opposed to "Indian Territory." As I've mentioned before, this is what ignited the American Revolutionary war. In the Proclamation the British are claiming the French controled lands as British. http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/related/proc63.htm

1) Here you go smart a$$!!! http://kahnienkehka.blogspot.com/ 2) Here's 18 of the 36 countries. Since we all haven't been to every one of the 36 I'm trying to find out who's been where and adding them to the list. Switzerland, Australia, Venezuela, Cuba, Haiti, Chile, New Zealand, Norway, Germany, Italy, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Netherlands, Belgium, Lithuania, Ireland, Dominican republic. You can pass this on to the rest of your doubters in denial although I'm sure it won't be able to pass your standards of scrutiny as nothing does! 3) The passports are issued in the name of the individual applying obviously! 4) I believe the term is political prisoners! 5) We have no control over what your government does with your tax dollars! You'll have to ask them. However, they are probably using them for the lands that were properly sold or leased. 6) The Minister of Indian Affairs is an illegal position implemented by your government in order to side step the original agreements between our Nations. Sort of like a Superior Court Judge thinking he is above the Atorney General...you know. See 9). 7) You'll have to ask your government that question as we do not have any authority over Canadas policies on their Customs agency. 8) It is the Confederacy as it always has been. In the current matter it is Chief Tekarihoka aka Allan McNaughton. 9) The Governor General as it has always been. 10) You'll have to ask them. Not all countries are represented in the UN anyway. There you have it wise guy!!! Hope it answers all your questions because this merry-go-round is getting old.

Well if you read the links 36 countries listed or not you know our passports do exist then! First of all I don't have a "Status Card" I have a Nation Card and a Rotinonshonni passport. Secondly, even an American can have the following; health card,driver's license and SIN number. I know several that do. When I lived in the U.S. after being discharged from the Army I had a S.S. number issued to me as well as obtained a California driver's license. It is all routine for residential status and has nothing to do with citizenship!

Nice try bub. If you want to disregard historical documents that I've mentioned and interpreted according to their intended meaning, thats your problem. You're like a child who covers his ears and cries "nyah nyah nyah I can't hear you". Its a trait that seems to be epidemic in Six Nations fanatics. You're delusional but persistent. P.S. Six Nations sovereignty still only exists in your head. Or it might be in your ass. Either way, it doesn't exist in the real world. Dream on! You're caught under the spell of your governments disinformation policy! Taking historical documents out of their original context does not constitute proof of anything. Go back to the begining and read them all and you'll find it quite clear that the Six Nations are Soereign!!! I've told you before, it's all in the history!

It's not an issue of believing,it's an issue of supporting your statements. "Pretty much every statement" is not ALL the claims being asked to clarify by those reading the boards here. I'm afraid not being able to validate your remarks only makes your statements appear to be exaggerated thinking and wishful fantasies. Thirty-six countries recognize your passport,who are they? The statement was made,why can't it be answered? Unless it's bogus,but that would take a big man to come out of denial and admit he was wrong and can't provide the list. So big guy,what's the answer? Go back and read the posts! We have provided evidence. Just because you're to damn lazy to read the links Tsi provided for you is we have not provided evidence?

In your indigenous worldview is presenting a statement without evidence acceptable? Does all your oral history or statements presented without evidence considered the truth because you and you alone say it is? Is making unsubstantiated claims to and about indigenous people or others the way your people debate issues? Making false claims or statements seems to be personally your proudest debating attribute. Somehow I don't think this is the aboriginal way. Look who's talking. Mister V and Skyclad couldn't provide evidence for some of the statements they made and we provided evidence to contradict them. We have shown evidence for pretty much every statement that we've made. If you choose not to believe it that's your problem we still provided it!

He gave you a link so you can look it up, are you that lazy? You all want proof and verification and when we give it to you you can't stand it! What's the matter...truth hurt?

Yes it was me that said it and I still stand by it! Spider holes and the Medicine of the Mole. The medicine of the mole has nothing to do with tunnels. It is what is refered to as "Shape Shifting", the ability to ambush your enemy anywhere at any time by suddenly appearing and disappearing. Charlie almost had the ability to do it fully. That is the main ingredient to a successful ambush! As we have both said already orders had to be followed regardless of how rediculous they seemed. Just as you refuse to believe what we're saying, the 90 day wonders didn't listen when a potential ambush was revealed and thus walked right into it! Camp X in Oshawa, Ontario used our people to train bush tactics including "disappearing."

Actually, Tsi did. Go back and read Post No. 138. And Tsi, you could be millenia old and still be a New Ager. Just thought I would clear that up for you! We know you guys are just having us on! You do not represent the voice of your people! There you go with the comprehension crap again. He said: "To my knowledge, none of our warriors that fought in Vietnam were fooled either." Where does it say we never got caught in an ambush? New Ager? you can say as you wish...the voice of ignorance again! Having you on? We'll see! Represent the voice of our people? When did we say we did? You've already defeated yourself with your own ignorance!!!

The gov't contends that the land that was originally leased was surrenderred in 1841. So the City of Brantford owes Six Nations nothing unless Six Nations can show in Canadian courts that the surrender in 1841 was invalid for some reason. Why don't you ask the mayor of Brantford instead of making such rediculous comments! Here's your so called 1841 surrender! It would seem that your government is a little confused or maybe they're lying to you!!! http://www.ontarioplaques.com/Plaque_Brantford25.html Note: "Increasingly European settlers encroached on Six Nations' lands. In 1841 the government moved the Grand River Iroquois to a section of their land south of the river." Do you see the words ceded or surrendered on this government plaque? It says encroachment. Encroaching means to intrude on other's territory. Notice: "Allies of the British during the American War of Independence, the Six Nations Iroquois received extensive lands along the Grand River in 1784."

Absolute twaddle! Polish lancers v. Panzers and Stukas as one example. Machine guns and breech loading rifles v. men armed with swords and spears. And you cannot prove that Native Americans that served in Vietnam (although probably statistically insignificant) were never trapped by Vietcong ambushes. And don't give me this nonsense that I can't disprove it; you made the statement, the onus is on you to prove it! Did anybody say no Native Americans were ever trapped in an ambush? I believe Tsi has already stated not all Natives can tack etc. Remember also that when "Butter Bars" gave orders they were not all exactly based on sound tactical judgement. Native Americans have one of the highest records of service per capita of any ethnic group that served Vietnam. Over 90% were volunteers. We had triple the normal ethnic rates in elite capacities within Airborne, Special Forces, Long Range Reconnaissance, and Ranger units. There are six of us from Grand River alone. So Nam experts, How long were you in country? When, where and with what unit did you serve?

Ho Chi Minh studied Native American battle tactics at the Univeristy of Chicago and deployed them in the field! The "spider hole" came from Geronimo's tactic of burying themselves in the sand and he also employed Crazy Horse's "medine of the mole"! The American concept was to rely on conventional warfare combined with "small unit" unconvetional warfare operations. They also relied heavily on technology and air support. Homework! Do your homework! Ong hieu toi duoc khong? Chao ong!

Ho Chi Minh studied Native American battle tactics at the Univeristy of Chicago and deployed them in the field! The "spider hole" came from Geronimo's tactic of burying themselves in the sand and he also employed Crazy Horse's "medine of the mole"! The American concept was to rely on conventional warfare combined with "small unit" unconvetional warfare operations. They also relied heavily on technology and air support. Homework! Do your homework! Ong hieu toi duoc khong? Chao ong!