Canada now has 3 times as many homeless as the US

[User]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well that's not going to solve the problem. You can only get so many people inside a tent

Folks like Chrissy don't care how they impact other people because they are not impacted. 

When people take their kids to the park, they don't need to be exposed to homeless people naked taking a shower, drugs, crazy people wandering around just hoping this is not the time they are violent... 

So they flippantly say to just let them live in the park. 

The reality is that a good deal of homeless people are homeless because of drug addictions or mental health issues. We don't need to put them in prison like criminals... but they do need involuntary confinement to get clean and get the mental health treatment they need. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, User said:

Folks like Chrissy don't care how they impact other people because they are not impacted. 

When people take their kids to the park, they don't need to be exposed to homeless people naked taking a shower, drugs, crazy people wandering around just hoping this is not the time they are violent... 

So they flippantly say to just let them live in the park. 

The reality is that a good deal of homeless people are homeless because of drug addictions or mental health issues. We don't need to put them in prison like criminals... but they do need involuntary confinement to get clean and get the mental health treatment they need. 

 

it's absolutely true. No matter how you slice it it comes to the same thing, what we're doing right now is not working well. In Canada we wind up with tent cities and Trudeau towns, in the states you wind up with higher incarceration rates. Neither of those is solving a problem and both of those create unnecessary strain on the public either by denying assets that should be public like a park or costing additional money in perpetuity for incarceration

We have to accept that we need to look at different solutions and the one you proposed seems like a damn good place to start.

[Chrissy1979]

8 hours ago, User said:

We should let them live in your home and all over your yard... 

We should create suitable housing for them.

[User]

3 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

We should create suitable housing for them.

Is your home not suitable for housing?

[CdnFox]

27 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

We should create suitable housing for them.

That's treating the symptom and is a limited value.

You have to take a look at why they're homeless. It's a mental health issue then we need to create better and more effective treatment facilities that can house them and treat them until they can be functional within society on their own again, and pass laws that make it possible to enforce that kind of thing on those who are probably mentally ill enough that they cannot make that decision on their own intelligently

And it's ruined their lives that you have to have proper treatment opportunities to get them off of drugs and back in a functional society where they are earning their own money and to support when at work to make sure they don't go back on drugs. Back it up with criminal charges if you have to like they do in some countries successfully. I believe Greece has something on the go along those lines

If they're just people that have fallen on hard times for whatever reason and don't want to make the effort to participate in society due to either very minor mental health issues or other such things or do to a lack of skills then get them training get them motivated get them off the streets and make it difficult for them if they don't.

That would probably take care of about 90% of our homelessness issues