Deluge Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 It's important for federal workers to understand that they are paid by American tax payers. When the country asks you to defend the country then you join the military and defend the country. When the country asks you to step down as a federal employee, you step down as a federal employee. Do what's best for the country, you f*cking ingrates, not what's best for you and your cushy hybrid or remote schedules. Washington — As federal workers continue to face massive layoffs, some are bringing their job search to Capitol Hill. The newly-formed Fork Off Coalition, composed of recently laid off government employees, held a job fair and staged a sit-in at a Senate building Tuesday. They targeted the offices of Sens. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski and Lindsey Graham. Organizers have been holding informal training sessions with terminated workers over several days on the Hill. Representing an alphabet soup of agencies with various levels of tenure, each worker is paired up and dispatched to a Senator's office to share their stories. One worker, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retribution, had been placed on administrative leave from the Administration for Children and Families, which is housed under the Department of Health and Human Services. The agency oversees programs ranging from Head Start to the Office of Refugee Resettlement. She brought her sixth-grade son to walk the halls of Congress with her, calling it a "civics lesson." "I have three children and I had to sit them down and tell them that I had been fired illegally from my job," she explained. "And both my son and my daughter were asking, like, what are we going to do? Will we be able to buy things?" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-workers-urge-congressional-lawmakers-to-reverse-job-cuts/ Quote
I am Groot Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 Oh yes. It's very important all those people step down, seniors to forego their medical care, and the military to be slashed to the bone so that those funds can be given to the wealthy donor class in the form of tax cuts that will funnel most of the $4.5 trillion in intended cuts into their Swiss bank accounts. Yay. Own the libs. Woo. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted February 27 Author Report Posted February 27 1 minute ago, I am Groot said: Oh yes. It's very important all those people step down, seniors to forego their medical care, and the military to be slashed to the bone so that those funds can be given to the wealthy donor class in the form of tax cuts that will funnel most of the $4.5 trillion in intended cuts into their Swiss bank accounts. Yay. Own the libs. Woo. That's right. ALL federal employees that can be cut, should be cut. The Fed needs to be lean and mean, not fat & lazy. Yes, own the libs. Quote
I am Groot Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 Just now, Deluge said: That's right. ALL federal employees that can be cut, should be cut. Including those who administer important programs that the wealthy donor class don't need. Like money to public healthcare and patients, to veterans (suckers) healthcare and programs. Who needs it when you're rich? Who needs public education either? Your kids certainly don't use it. And the military? Screw em. Putin is friendly with oligarchs anyway. He'll make a fine new leader. Quote
Deluge Posted February 27 Author Report Posted February 27 (edited) 13 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Including those who administer important programs that the wealthy donor class don't need. Like money to public healthcare and patients, to veterans (suckers) healthcare and programs. Who needs it when you're rich? Who needs public education either? Your kids certainly don't use it. And the military? Screw em. Putin is friendly with oligarchs anyway. He'll make a fine new leader. No, including all the f*cking no-shows to DOGE's initial email. Only about half responded, which helps confirm suspicions that some (or many) employees either don't exist or are already dead - to say nothing of all the potential no talent abusers that are just collecting paychecks. The era of waste is over. Edited February 27 by Deluge Quote
CdnFox Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 28 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Oh yes. It's very important all those people step down, seniors to forego their medical care, and the military to be slashed to the bone so that those funds can be given to the wealthy donor class in the form of tax cuts that will funnel most of the $4.5 trillion in intended cuts into their Swiss bank accounts. Yay. Own the libs. Woo. Maybe if they had been more accountable when stealing other people's money and spending it it wouldn't have come to this. it wasn't the wealthy donor class that put trump in power. He had far less money than Kamala and the people that voted for him were just average run of the male people. And his approval rating is strong. Everyone has to justify their job. These people thought that didn't apply to them and they are now finding out the hard way that it does . And what people funnel their own money that they earned into is none of your business nor the states. Governments have to justify the taxes they take and if they are spending it on things that the people who are paying the taxes don't like then there will be blowback. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
impartialobserver Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 I think that they will discover how inefficient some processes will be when you have a skeleton crew. There are a lot of things that city/county/state govts depend on that will be severely lagged. and then the know-it-alls will chime in about lazy public sector workers when in all reality.. they know nothing about the processes that they complain about. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted February 27 Author Report Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: I think that they will discover how inefficient some processes will be when you have a skeleton crew. There are a lot of things that city/county/state govts depend on that will be severely lagged. and then the know-it-alls will chime in about lazy public sector workers when in all reality.. they know nothing about the processes that they complain about. "Skeleton crew". lol You speak as if all 2 - 5 million (or whatever the f*ck that number is) federal employees are critical to the nation's survival. Trump & Co. thinks there is a whole lot of fat in the federal government and I 100% agree. Think the cuts are bad? Well, they're not bad enough; we need MORE cuts. Quote
I am Groot Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Maybe if they had been more accountable when stealing other people's money and spending it it wouldn't have come to this. Uh huhhhhh. Evidence of this stealing? As far as I'm aware everything they spend is approved by congress. What kind of shape do you think the military will be in after all these cuts to its budget? Is this really the time, as the warlords rise in power and ambition, to be slashing your military? 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: it wasn't the wealthy donor class that put trump in power. Sure it was. The wealthy donor class provided the slanted media coverage and pumped out the political propaganda and divisive stories to get one group of Americans to hate, loathe, and despise the other group so they could take advantage. "Hey, look dummies, squirrel! Look at the squirrel!" 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: He had far less money than Kamala and the people that voted for him were just average run of the male people. And his approval rating is strong. Dummies who are just starting to realize their veterans benefits are being slashed, their medicare is being slashed, their education funding is being slashed. None of which is being mentioned much in right-wing media, of course. But they'll find out eventually. 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: And what people funnel their own money that they earned into is none of your business nor the states. Governments have to justify the taxes they take and if they are spending it on things that the people who are paying the taxes don't like then there will be blowback. Meaning, the wealthy don't need healthcare, education or other benefit programs. So what's the point of them? 18 minutes ago, Deluge said: Think the cuts are bad? Well, they're not bad enough; we need MORE cuts. America has too many seniors. Remove their pensions and healthcare so they all die off. Think of the savings! Quote
Deluge Posted February 27 Author Report Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, I am Groot said: America has too many seniors. Remove their pensions and healthcare so they all die off. Think of the savings! You would try to go after pensions. lol I'm talking about the human debris sucking up our tax dollars - apparently it's going to take longer than I hoped. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: Uh huhhhhh. Evidence of this stealing? As far as I'm aware everything they spend is approved by congress. Well actually there is a great deal of evidence of theft and inappropriate spending but i more specifically meant if you take someone's money without asking for permission. Which is what taxes are. To a degree it's tolerated if people feel they're getting back something worthwhile. But if they don't..... Quote What kind of shape do you think the military will be in after all these cuts to its budget? Is this really the time, as the warlords rise in power and ambition, to be slashing your military? It is if the warlords aren't threatening your interests. If the us is planning on less 'gunboat diplomacy' and 'world policing' then it would make more sense to have a smaller but very well equipped force. We can have a discussion about whether or not their slightly more isolationist stance is a good idea but if they're going with it then cuts aren't a bad plan. Quote Sure it was. The wealthy donor class provided the slanted media coverage and pumped out the political propaganda and divisive stories to get one group of Americans to hate, loathe, and despise the other group so they could take advantage. ROFLMAO!!!!! Oh you have GOT to be joking LOL A CRAPTONNE of media came out and spent almost all their time fawning over Kammy. She had more positive media than any 5 previous presidential candidates The media could not have been MORE in her court, and celebs and stars lined up to endorse and praise her! That is a 100 percent absolute full on miss. Trump got an interview on x and did joe rogan. Otherwise the media hated him. Quote Dummies who are just starting to realize their veterans benefits are being slashed, their medicare is being slashed, their education funding is being slashed. None of which is being mentioned much in right-wing media, of course. But they'll find out eventually. Sure, the cuts are being kept secret. 🙄 C'mon. Quote Meaning, the wealthy don't need healthcare, education or other benefit programs. So what's the point of them? Yeah. And if there's no answer then those people might very well decide they don't want to pay the taxes to fund it. So you'd better have a decent answer to that question. Because as you say, it's the wealthy that pay most of the taxes. But even the middle class who have healthcare that they pay for through their work and pay for their kids education through the state etc may start asking why they're paying theirs AND someone else's. There's a sense of entitlement in your statements that i don't think you even hear. That's other people's money you're talking about. If you (the royal you) want to have it to spend, you have to be able to convince people it's entirely worth it. Otherwise people are going to play their 'trump' card and here we are. Quote America has too many seniors. Remove their pensions and healthcare so they all die off. Think of the savings! Yeah yeah end of days blah blah. At the end of the day there will still be healthcare, there will still be pensions. And absolutely nobody is stopping you from starting a charity and raising funds from people who are still willing to fund such things if you wish. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Barquentine Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 3 hours ago, Deluge said: ALL federal employees that can be cut, should be cut. That include DOGE employees? What about about Maga congressmen and women? After all they just do whatever Trump wants, no work. They no longer serve any real purpose. And what about Trump? Musk is running things. Quote
Deluge Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: That include DOGE employees? What about about Maga congressmen and women? After all they just do whatever Trump wants, no work. They no longer serve any real purpose. And what about Trump? Musk is running things. Why cull the cullers? That makes zero sense. MAGA is providing what Ameria needs. It's why we won the election and you woketards lost. Quote
Barquentine Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 25 minutes ago, Deluge said: It's why we won the election and you woketards lost. Limited vocabulary? Is woketards all you got? How many times is that now? Btw: Trump only won because inflation was hurting people and now he's about to make it much worse. Enjoy. Quote
Deluge Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 (edited) 7 hours ago, Barquentine said: Limited vocabulary? Is woketards all you got? How many times is that now? Btw: Trump only won because inflation was hurting people and now he's about to make it much worse. Enjoy. Woketard works. So does wokejob; or woke cultist; I sometimes use wokie, but I think I prefer dumbass. ****** is a great descriptor. Zombie is good, and so is shemale, or mangina (male ****); moonbat is good, diaper doper's also good, and so is a$$hole. The vocabulary is not limited at all; in fact, it's quite robust. Trump won because he was a far superior candidate, and it shows. We'd already be back in the Dark Ages with Harris. Edited February 28 by Deluge Quote
Barquentine Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 4 hours ago, Deluge said: Woketard works. So does wokejob; or woke cultist; I sometimes use wokie, but I think I prefer dumbass. ****** is a great descriptor. Zombie is good, and so is shemale, or mangina (male ****); moonbat is good, diaper doper's also good, and so is a$$hole. The vocabulary is not limited at all; in fact, it's quite robust. Trump won because he was a far superior candidate, and it shows. We'd already be back in the Dark Ages with Harris. I almost pity you...almost. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: I almost pity you...almost. I certainly pity you, so it's reciprocal....almost. Quote
impartialobserver Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 22 hours ago, Deluge said: "Skeleton crew". lol You speak as if all 2 - 5 million (or whatever the f*ck that number is) federal employees are critical to the nation's survival. Trump & Co. thinks there is a whole lot of fat in the federal government and I 100% agree. Think the cuts are bad? Well, they're not bad enough; we need MORE cuts. Your self righteousness and zealousness gets in the way of you having a rational discussion. "inefficient some processes". I put that word, "some" in there for a reason. Some is not the same as all... your disapproval of this reality is not necessary. I agree that we can handle less federal employment. However, one should be discerning and not just do it blindly. 17 hours ago, Barquentine said: Limited vocabulary? Is woketards all you got? How many times is that now? Btw: Trump only won because inflation was hurting people and now he's about to make it much worse. Enjoy. If not for name-calling and blanket assumptions, his type would have nothing to say. Quote
Deluge Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: Your self righteousness and zealousness gets in the way of you having a rational discussion. "inefficient some processes". I put that word, "some" in there for a reason. Some is not the same as all... your disapproval of this reality is not necessary. I agree that we can handle less federal employment. However, one should be discerning and not just do it blindly. OK, we can do this civilly. Why don't you talk about "not just do it blindly". What is DOGE doing blindly? Quote
Deluge Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 (edited) 10 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: If not for name-calling and blanket assumptions, his type would have nothing to say. That's not true, partial, and you know it. I've already outed you as left-winger, and I don't remember one discussion you and I have had where you added ANYTHING of substance. If you think I'm wrong here, point it out. Edited February 28 by Deluge Quote
impartialobserver Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 6 minutes ago, Deluge said: That's not true, partial, and you know it. I've already outed you as left-winger, and I don't remember one discussion you and I have had where you added ANYTHING of substance. If you think I'm wrong here, point it out. "substance" is subjective. Of course, from your standpoint, I do not add anything of substance. You come on here for affirmation and anyone that does not align with you on 100% of topics is going to be of no substance. Quote
Deluge Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 (edited) 5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: "substance" is subjective. Of course, from your standpoint, I do not add anything of substance. You come on here for affirmation and anyone that does not align with you on 100% of topics is going to be of no substance. Anyone who doesn't align with the truth 100% is where the problem lies. When I'm wrong, I own it. When you leftoids are wrong, you deflect, or change the subject. That's the difference. Edited February 28 by Deluge Quote
impartialobserver Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Deluge said: OK, we can do this civilly. Why don't you talk about "not just do it blindly". What is DOGE doing blindly? For example.. the firing of those working in the national park system. as of yet, there is no information about why they fired this person but not that one. It seems very random. Which is very much in line with Musk's way of being. Keep in mind that I live 14 miles from a Tesla gigafactory and his indiscriminate firings are very well known. My next door neighbor is a Tesla employee who has witnessed Musk walking in and at random pointing to folks on the assembly line and telling them that they are fired. Now location by location, you could analyze it and say, "not sure we need 4 cashiers at the gift shop, lets go with 2 and decrease the hours of operation from 40 to 35". Something like that would be better. Yosemite is a very high traffic area so lots of staffing. Great Basin.. not quite so no issue with cutting down the number of employees. Edited February 28 by impartialobserver Quote
Deluge Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: For example.. the firing of those working in the national park system. as of yet, there is no information about why they fired this person but not that one. It seems very random. Which is very much in line with Musk's way of being. Keep in mind that I live 14 miles from a Tesla gigafactory and his indiscriminate firings are very well known. My next door neighbor is a Tesla employee who has witnessed Musk walking in and at random pointing to folks on the assembly line and telling them that they are fired. Now location by location, you could analyze it and say, "not sure we need 4 cashiers at the gift shop, lets go with 2 and decrease the hours of operation from 40 to 35". Something like that would be better. Yosemite is a very high traffic area so lots of staffing. Great Basin.. not quite so no issue with cutting down the number of employees. So what you're trying to say is that Musk has the mentality of a 6 year old and has no idea what he's doing at any level and in every situation. You're also telling me that Musk fired national parks employees just for the hell of it. Where is your evidence of all this? Quote
impartialobserver Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Deluge said: So what you're trying to say is that Musk has the mentality of a 6 year old and has no idea what he's doing at any level and in every situation. You're also telling me that Musk fired national parks employees just for the hell of it. Where is your evidence of all this? Well, we know that he has a documented history of firing his employees at random. This simply documents that he fired them. As to him walking in and doing it at random.. I was not there but my very Conservative neighbor is a pretty good source. Also, I have met Musk and well.. socializing, social norms, and such are not his strong suit. I am not saying, "every situation".. I am pointing out one. In this case, the one instance is the national park service. https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/21/tesla_unlawful_layoffs_lawsuit/ Second, we know that 1,000 have been fired (estimated). We also know that he is most likely the reason for this. If you scour the internet.. you will not find a detailed method for this or rationale. There might be one and we just have not seen it yet. Quote
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