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Would you support a Constitutional amendment that ended both birthright citizenship and the Electoral College system?

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Would you support a Constitutional amendment that ended both birthright citizenship and the Electoral College system?   

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Deluge Grand Master

Deluge

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10 hours ago, Matthew said:

Maybe, maybe not.

What also doesn't work is your way of separating it two super partisan issues.

It's been 50 years since any amendment passed, and it was very simple non-controversial one.

The last amendment that was an actual big deal was the 22nd that put term limits on the presidency and that was 74 years ago.

The 14th will definitely need to be reworded, or simply replaced with one that has clear language against birthright citizenship. 

Five of swords Mentor

Five of swords

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On 1/27/2025 at 5:37 PM, impartialobserver said:

You in for a lifetime of disappointment. 

Disappointment requires expectations

On 1/27/2025 at 5:48 PM, Black Dog said:

Who's an edgy boy? Who's an edgy boy?

How is that edgy? It was the mainstream point of view until after ww2

Five of swords Mentor

Five of swords

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24 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Well.. either way you are in for a lifetime of outcomes that you do not approve of and can do nothing about. 

That has been the case since white people lost ww2, of course. But anything that simply destabilizes the us regime is good for me in the long run...and on that front there is plenty to celebrate.

impartialobserver Grand Master

impartialobserver

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Just now, Five of swords said:

That has been the case since white people lost ww2, of course. But anything that simply destabilizes the us regime is good for me in the long run...and on that front there is plenty to celebrate.

I guess whatever floats your boat. Getting excited about something that has not happened and has no assurance of happening in the near future.. is simply irrational. 

Five of swords Mentor

Five of swords

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12 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I guess whatever floats your boat. Getting excited about something that has not happened and has no assurance of happening in the near future.. is simply irrational. 

I think the past few decades proved that we did not reach the end of history. Indeed this is now a multipolar world. And when countries compete over global hegemony, opportunities abound.

impartialobserver Grand Master

impartialobserver

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1 minute ago, Five of swords said:

I think the past few decades proved that we did not reach the end of history. Indeed this is now a multipolar world. And when countries compete over global hegemony, opportunities abound.

Opportunities abound. You could win a lottery tomorrow but how likely is it? Would you pin your happiness on this event? 

Five of swords Mentor

Five of swords

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6 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Opportunities abound. You could win a lottery tomorrow but how likely is it? Would you pin your happiness on this event? 

If you are worried about what I pin my happiness on then you are not engaged in politics.

CdnFox Grand Master

CdnFox

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On 1/27/2025 at 2:07 PM, Five of swords said:

When was I in the closet? 

I mean fair point really. 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

CdnFox Grand Master

CdnFox

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The Electoral College exists to prevent the tyranny of the majority. The only reason so many people hate it on the left is because it works. Getting rid of it would eventually lead to the separation of the states as it would become impossible for them to have diverse opinions politically.

I don't know that birthright citizenship needs a constitutional amendment and I'm not sure that it would be the best way to address it. The reason I say that is because it is challenging to write the language in such a way that it allows legitimate citizenship when somebody is legitimately born in America and still exclude birthplace tourism and such. While that might seem like an easy thing at first it would be very easy to abuse the language.

So amendments that allowed for congressional laws to be applied may make more sense. Very easier to fine tune and change if it turns that they are now out of date or need to be corrected. You have to have a little more flexibility to change with the times and that would be a better way to handle it

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There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Five of swords Mentor

Five of swords

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17 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Honestly, its just a bit interesting how humans can be so irrational. 

And yet I am astonishingly rational. Yes...the usa is the primary enemy of white people. Thus I want the usa to be destroyed. What is irrational about that?

impartialobserver Grand Master

impartialobserver

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On 1/30/2025 at 10:24 AM, Five of swords said:

And yet I am astonishingly rational. Yes...the usa is the primary enemy of white people. Thus I want the usa to be destroyed. What is irrational about that?

Its irrational because your desires in this case have a 0% chance of ever being realized. Any time, energy, money, patience spent pining for the unattainable is a waste.. therefore irrational. 

Five of swords Mentor

Five of swords

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15 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Its irrational because your desires in this case have a 0% chance of ever being realized. Any time, energy, money, patience spent pining for the unattainable is a waste.. therefore irrational. 

I can assure you the usa will not last forever.

Five of swords Mentor

Five of swords

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9 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Longer than you will.. for sure. Oh.. but you are going to come back from the dead when it does.. 

Lol I am one person. There is no such thing as a politics of one person...you seem totally naive about what politics is.

impartialobserver Grand Master

impartialobserver

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34 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Lol I am one person. There is no such thing as a politics of one person...you seem totally naive about what politics is.

You are vastly outnumbered and in today's political and social environment.. that renders you ineffectual in the big picture. 

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