Federal government not cooperating to rebuild Jasper housing

[Black Dog]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No the province says we need this much space and this much housing. And the government says well we think if you did housing in a different way that was more expensive and comes with other challenges as density always does then we would be able to give you slightly less even though in the grand scheme of things we're talking about a tiny amount.

Wait you think building dense housing on serviced land is more expensive on a per unit basis than building SFHs on unserviced land? LMAO.

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Sure. Nobody said what they were doing was criminal. What I said is maybe it's not such a nice thing to do after you burn someone's house down through your negligence and inaction to quibble over the space that's needed to put things right.

Well that's just retarded.

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And I kind of stand behind that position. The Liberal Government is acting like complete scumbags. It is absolutely their legal right to act like complete scumbags but we all know the reason they're doing it is Alberta will never vote for them and that makes them supreme scumbags

Weird how you completely ignore the part where the local community and feds are on the same page and it's the UCP who are being shitheels in order to get their way, but you've never let facts or nuance get in the way of a dumb rant before, so why start now,

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Absolutely, demanding enough space to rebuild jasper was the last straw!

There's plenty of space already, didn't you read your horse?

11 hours ago, cougar said:

Yes, nonsense and it is all yours.

There are dozens of excavators currently in Jasper clearing the burnt out properties.  Once the land is cleared it should be ready to get the infrastructure back in place.

The park , which is supposed to be a National park is already compromised by endless commercial traffic and pipelines.  That is not enough for you and you want more destruction.

As I told you before, fly south and join Trump and the rest. 

Yeah the UCP would love to turn Jasper into Banff 2.0. Everything is for sale with these slimeballs.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Wait you think building dense housing on serviced land is more expensive on a per unit basis than building SFHs on unserviced land? LMAO.

Wait, you think it isn't?

Kid this is my industry. I know it is.  The only cost benefit is the land itself.  You buy one peice of land and built 10 homes on it instead of one so even tho per square foot the homes are more expensive to build it works out cheaper because there's no additional land cost. The cost of permitting CAN be a factor in some places as well. 

In this case the land cost isn't a factor. And neither is permitting. 

So what the government is saying is that we can afford to give you less land as long as you pay more money to build the homes so that's what we'd like. They give up a tiny bit less land and Alberta has to pay more.

This is why you always come across looking like a complete tard. Do some research BEFORE you speak 

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Well that's just retarded.

Which is you just basically you admitting it's true and you don't like it but you can't argue against it

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Weird how you completely ignore the part where the local community and feds are on the same page and it's the UCP who are being shitheels in order to get their way,

Not ignoring at all.  But at the end of the day the province is responsible for the town and what they need to rebuild and they're making a very reasonable ask from the gov't and the feds are basically holding things up because f*ck you alberta. 

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

There's plenty of space already,

Apparently there's no space at all if they don't do it the way the feds want. 

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Yeah the UCP would love to turn Jasper into Banff 2.0. Everything is for sale with these slimeballs.

LOL ok, so first off, why do you hate banff? It's been a pretty good little place. 

Second if they wanted to sell places then more density would make MORE sense to them. it would be maximizing land use for profit. So they wouldn't be fighting the density issue. More tax revenue for them as well. 

 

You are honestly just too stupid for these conversations. Which would be fine if you took 2 seconds to look stuff up before you talked so you were a little more educated. 

This is quite simple. The province has asked for reasonable accommodation to continue with the rebuild of a city which burned down because of bad forest management on the part of the federal government. The federal government is being petty and screwing the province around.  And surprise surprise, the province they choose to screw is alberta. 

And then they'll go on about how we all have to be there for each other in a crisis during the trade negotiations. 

[Black Dog]

33 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Wait, you think it isn't?

Kid this is my industry. I know it is.  The only cost benefit is the land itself.  You buy one peice of land and built 10 homes on it instead of one so even tho per square foot the homes are more expensive to build it works out cheaper because there's no additional land cost. The cost of permitting CAN be a factor in some places as well. 

In this case the land cost isn't a factor. And neither is permitting. 

So what the government is saying is that we can afford to give you less land as long as you pay more money to build the homes so that's what we'd like. They give up a tiny bit less land and Alberta has to pay more.

This is why you always come across looking like a complete tard. Do some research BEFORE you speak 

Which is you just basically you admitting it's true and you don't like it but you can't argue against it

Not ignoring at all.  But at the end of the day the province is responsible for the town and what they need to rebuild and they're making a very reasonable ask from the gov't and the feds are basically holding things up because f*ck you alberta. 

Apparently there's no space at all if they don't do it the way the feds want. 

Oh it's mad mad now and just repeating the same dumb dogshit even his own "horse" has shown him up, all because he's too much of a pu$$y to admit when he's wrong.

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LOL ok, so first off, why do you hate banff? It's been a pretty good little place. 

It sucks, it's an overdeveloped commercial hellhole.

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Second if they wanted to sell places then more density would make MORE sense to them. it would be maximizing land use for profit. So they wouldn't be fighting the density issue. More tax revenue for them as well. 

They're ideologically opposed to density and the kind of people they want to buy this stuff don't want to live in apartments or condos. Christ man, you don't live in Alberta, you know f*ck all, sit down.

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You are honestly just too stupid for these conversations. Which would be fine if you took 2 seconds to look stuff up before you talked so you were a little more educated. 

Says the guy who couldn't be botehre dto post any horses.

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This is quite simple. The province has asked for reasonable accommodation to continue with the rebuild of a city which burned down because of bad forest management on the part of the federal government. The federal government is being petty and screwing the province around.  And surprise surprise, the province they choose to screw is alberta. 

Bzzt wrong.

[CdnFox]

22 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Oh it's mad mad now and just repeating the same dumb dogshit even his own "horse" has shown him up, all because he's too much of a pu$$y to admit when he's wrong.

LOL wow. I think i broke you    Foaming at the mouth is a sure sign you realize you've lost  

23 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

It sucks, it's an overdeveloped commercial hellhole.

Sure that's why it's so unpopular. Ohhhh wait....

23 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

They're ideologically opposed to density

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!  "Ideologically opposed to density"    LOL  man,  they must HATE your brain then    That is one of the dumbest arguments you've made so far

24 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Says the guy who couldn't be botehre dto post any horses.

HAAHAHA - hey, pro tip: if you're making fun of someone's typo don't make a typo. if you dto, then you look dtumb   LOLOL 

26 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Bzzt wrong.

Bzzt true, which is why you coudn't refute it.