athos Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 This is worse than what Hitler did. This time, with the help of the West, Zelensky is committing genocide against the Ukrainian people. He should be charged with crimes against humanity. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 (edited) That's the response? On 1/10/2025 at 3:41 AM, DUI_Offender said: Go away 12 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Or better, go to hell I assume you two would be all gung-ho to go die? Or do you just not like to deal with reality? Edited January 12 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 (edited) On 1/12/2025 at 8:46 AM, Nationalist said: Or do you just not like to deal with reality? What is the reality? That Zelensky is worse than Hitler!!! He is an elected president of Ukraine whose country has been invaded by f*cking Russian invaders and his people are being massacred by Russian drones and missiles (some provided to Russia by another murderous regime of f*cking Islamic Republic) and he is trying to preserve Ukraine independence. This guy is a Russian agent always defending f*cking Putin and Russia's imperialistic role in the world. If anyone is worst than Hilter it is the Islamic regime and Putin. Edited January 13 by CITIZEN_2015 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 52 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: What is the reality? That Zelensky is worse than Hitler!!! He is an elected president of Ukraine whose country has been invaded by f*cking Russian invaders and his people are being massacred by Russian drones and missiles (some provided to Russia by another murderous regime of f*cking Islamic Republic) and he is trying to preserve Ukraine independence. This guy is a Russian agent always defending f*cking Putin and Russia's imperialistic role in the world. If anyone is worst than Hilter it is the Islamic regime and Putin. And what was Zelensky's election platform? Quote When Volodymyr Zelenskiy sought to become Ukraine’s president he stood on a platform of peace. Zelenskiy promised to sit down with Vladimir Putin and to reach a deal with Russia. He would end the unpopular war in the east and concentrate on important domestic reforms. These included ridding the country of corruption and oligarchs. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/20/ukraines-leader-stood-on-platform-of-peace-but-finds-himself-on-brink-war Not only are you stupid...but you're detachment from reality in lieu of your own "personal reality" is staggering. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: And what was Zelensky's election platform? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/20/ukraines-leader-stood-on-platform-of-peace-but-finds-himself-on-brink-war Not only are you stupid...but you're detachment from reality in lieu of your own "personal reality" is staggering. First off you are the stupid one for making personal attacks. If you can't debate a topic in a mature manner then get lost. Zelensky was hoping for peace except that when Putin saw a weak democrat president in the White House he took advantage of the situation and listen to his generals who informed him they can capture the entire Ukraine in a few days and invaded the country. Zelensky had no choice but to defend Ukraine. What do you do if someone is attacking you with a knife. You smile and say lets talk peace!!!!!!!, Stupid. 1 Quote
User Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 On 1/12/2025 at 7:46 AM, Nationalist said: I assume you two would be all gung-ho to go die? Or do you just not like to deal with reality? This thread deserves nothing but scorn and mockery when the absurdly ignorant assertion being made here is that it is Zelensky committing genocide against his own people. Of course, you, being a supporter of Russia and a cheerleader for this war of aggression on their part, wanting them to win, you would be here defending this nonsense. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: First off you are the stupid one for making personal attacks. If you can't debate a topic in a mature manner then get lost. Zelensky was hoping for peace except that when Putin saw a weak democrat president in the White House he took advantage of the situation and listen to his generals who informed him they can capture the entire Ukraine in a few days and invaded the country. Zelensky had no choice but to defend Ukraine. What do you do if someone is attacking you with a knife. You smile and say lets talk peace!!!!!!!, Stupid. You wanna call me a Putin agent...ya gits wut ya begs fer. Grow up and deal with it. Zelensky was in power well before Brandon came along. He had time to deal with Putin as he'd promised. 38 minutes ago, User said: This thread deserves nothing but scorn and mockery when the absurdly ignorant assertion being made here is that it is Zelensky committing genocide against his own people. Of course, you, being a supporter of Russia and a cheerleader for this war of aggression on their part, wanting them to win, you would be here defending this nonsense. What I want is rather irrelevant now, isn't it. We can already see what will likely be. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
athos Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 (edited) 6 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: What is the reality? That Zelensky is worse than Hitler!!! He is an elected president of Ukraine whose country has been invaded by f*cking Russian invaders and his people are being massacred by Russian drones and missiles (some provided to Russia by another murderous regime of f*cking Islamic Republic) and he is trying to preserve Ukraine independence. This guy is a Russian agent always defending f*cking Putin and Russia's imperialistic role in the world. If anyone is worst than Hilter it is the Islamic regime and Putin. Hitler was also elected in Germany. The only difference is that Hitler was a German who killed Jews, and Zelensky is a Jew who is killing Slavs. I'm trying to imagine what would happen if Putin or some Christian leader banned and persecuted Jews like Zelensky is doing in Ukraine with the Ukrainian Christian Orthodox Church and its believers. In the same way if that guy is a Russian agent, you are Nazi agent which is much worse and learn not to be arrogant regardless of an undeserved sense of superiority. Edited January 14 by athos 1 Quote
athos Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 2 hours ago, User said: This thread deserves nothing but scorn and mockery when the absurdly ignorant assertion being made here is that it is Zelensky committing genocide against his own people. Of course, you, being a supporter of Russia and a cheerleader for this war of aggression on their part, wanting them to win, you would be here defending this nonsense. Just as the German Jews were Hitler's own people, the Ukrainian Slavs are Zelensky's people. Just as Hitler persecuted and killed his people, Zelensky kills and persecutes his own people. "The only difference is that Hitler was a German who killed Jews, and Zelensky is a Jew who is killing Slavs. I'm trying to imagine what would happen if Putin or some Christian leader banned and persecuted Jews like Zelensky is doing in Ukraine with the Ukrainian Christian Orthodox Church and its believers". Of course, you, as a supporter of the Nazis and cheerleader of the dictator Zelensky, are promoting a new genocide against the Slavic people in Europe. 1 1 Quote
User Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 40 minutes ago, athos said: Of course, you, as a supporter of the Nazis and cheerleader of the dictator Zelensky, are promoting a new genocide against the Slavic people in Europe. Zelensky is no dictator. He is not killing his people, they are fighting to defend Ukraine from Russia. If Russia stops killing them in their war of aggression, people don't die anymore. Seriously, your argument is in a different universe of dishonesty. 1 Quote
athos Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 58 minutes ago, User said: Zelensky is no dictator. He is not killing his people, they are fighting to defend Ukraine from Russia. If Russia stops killing them in their war of aggression, people don't die anymore. Seriously, your argument is in a different universe of dishonesty. You are right. Hitler also "Didn't kill his own people" he only killed Jews. Zelensky, as a Jew, "is not killinghis own people" he is only killing Slavs. Quote
User Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 1 minute ago, athos said: You are right. Hitler also "Didn't kill his own people" he only killed Jews. Zelensky, as a Jew, "is not killinghis own people" he is only killing Slavs. He isn't killing anyone... you are too dishonest so you ignored that part. Quote
athos Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 1 hour ago, User said: He isn't killing anyone... you are too dishonest so you ignored that part. Well then Hitler didn't kill anyone either. "You are too dishonest so you ignored that part" Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 13 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: What is the reality? That Zelensky is worse than Hitler!!! He is an elected president of Ukraine whose country has been invaded by f*cking Russian invaders and his people are being massacred by Russian drones and missiles (some provided to Russia by another murderous regime of f*cking Islamic Republic) and he is trying to preserve Ukraine independence. This guy is a Russian agent always defending f*cking Putin and Russia's imperialistic role in the world. If anyone is worst than Hilter it is the Islamic regime and Putin. Many on this forum eat up Russian disinformation, like cereal. 2 Quote
athos Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: Many on this forum eat up Russian disinformation, like cereal. This is not propaganda this is a fact: "The only difference is that Hitler was a German who killed Jews, and Zelensky is a Jew who is killing Slavs. I'm trying to imagine what would happen if Putin or some Christian leader banned and persecuted Jews like Zelensky is doing in Ukraine with the Ukrainian Christian Orthodox Church and its believers". 😀 Quote
User Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 10 hours ago, athos said: Well then Hitler didn't kill anyone either. "You are too dishonest so you ignored that part" Yes, Hitler was the one who directed the killing, orchestrated rounding the people up, the camps.... Again, since you are nothing but a pathetic low life POS liar, it is Putin doing the killing, not Zelensky. If Putin stopped the war of aggression, the killing stops. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 9 minutes ago, User said: Yes, Hitler was the one who directed the killing, orchestrated rounding the people up, the camps.... Again, since you are nothing but a pathetic low life POS liar, it is Putin doing the killing, not Zelensky. If Putin stopped the war of aggression, the killing stops. And do you realistically anticipate Putin would stop now? There are many reports of young Ukrainian men being dragged out of schools, homes and off the street to go fight in a war Zelensky promised would not happen. In a week, Trump takes over. I'm quite interested in how he plans to end this bloody escapade. At least he'll be wise enough to talk with Putin. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 13 minutes ago, Nationalist said: And do you realistically anticipate Putin would stop now? Stop? This is a discussion on laying the blame at his feet. I think he will stop if we give serious support to Ukraine to stop him. I don't think he can push this war forever either at the rate he is losing war power resources. 14 minutes ago, Nationalist said: There are many reports of young Ukrainian men being dragged out of schools, homes and off the street to go fight in a war Zelensky promised would not happen. Yes, just as Russia is having to round up people to go die. Zelensky can't make a promise he has no control over and of course you would be here attacking him instead of Putin who started this war. Why don't you ever spend any time talking about what Putin is having to do to his people to feed his war machine of death? 16 minutes ago, Nationalist said: In a week, Trump takes over. I'm quite interested in how he plans to end this bloody escapade. At least he'll be wise enough to talk with Putin. There have been many talks with Putin already. I don't think this is going to go the way you think it will, if Putin is not as realistic as Trump wants him to be... it could just as easily go that Trump dumps an entirely new amount of support into Ukraine to force his hand. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 1 hour ago, User said: Stop? This is a discussion on laying the blame at his feet. It is a discussion about how Zelensky and his government is seriously depleting the population of Ukraine. I don't agree with this idea that he has it in for non-Jews. I think he's acting out the edicts of NATO much to the chagrin of the Ukrainian people. 1 hour ago, User said: I think he will stop if we give serious support to Ukraine to stop him. I don't think he can push this war forever either at the rate he is losing war power resources. Putin is not losing power. In the last election, he won overwhelmingly. https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/ As you can see, the lowest Putin's approval in Russia has been 60%. Today its 85%. You may believe that or not but...it is what it is. NATO has been providing support for Ukraine all along. What's the result? In December Zelensky said that 43,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yv75nydy3o Quote The Ukrainian president is thought to have been compelled to make the admission after incoming US President-elect Donald Trump wrote on social media that Ukraine had "ridiculously lost" 400,000 soldiers, while close to 600,000 Russians had been killed or wounded. Trump did not state where these figures were from. Its common knowledge that Zelensky has taken control of the Ukrainian media and the reports he hands The West are...less trustworthy as almost ever article about this has to post similar disclaimers such as in the article by BBC. Quote The BBC has not been able to verify either side's figures. Of course, the reports from Russia are also not trustworthy. However...In the great Kursk offensive...which you and I have discussed and I predicted the Russians would surround the Ukrainians and then proceed to kill them all... Quote The Russian defence ministry says more than 38,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed or wounded in Kursk alone - a number that cannot be verified. Even the CTV is admitting the offensive is failing. Quote Five months after their shock offensive into Russia, Ukrainian troops are bloodied and demoralized by the rising risk of defeat in Kursk, a region some want to hold at all costs while others question the value of having gone in at all. Battles are so intense that some Ukrainian commanders can’t evacuate the dead. Communication lags and poorly timed tactics have cost lives, and troops have little way to counterattack, seven front-line soldiers and commanders told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity so they could discuss sensitive operations. https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/bloodied-ukrainian-troops-risk-losing-more-hard-won-land-in-kursk-to-russia-1.7159187 1 hour ago, User said: Zelensky can't make a promise he has no control over and of course you would be here attacking him instead of Putin who started this war. Why don't you ever spend any time talking about what Putin is having to do to his people to feed his war machine of death? I present reality. You do remember reality, don't you? You manage to argue for reality in every threat you participate in...except this one. Instead...you make stupid accusations in an effort of deny reality and shame people who see reality. We will soon see how Trump addresses this mess, but he's promised to end it all and in honestly evaluating the current state of the war...Russia is in the "driver's seat". That may not make you feel good...but reality is what it is. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: It is a discussion about how Zelensky and his government is seriously depleting the population of Ukraine. I don't agree with this idea that he has it in for non-Jews. I think he's acting out the edicts of NATO much to the chagrin of the Ukrainian people. No, Putin is waging a war against Ukraine, it is his war machine depleting both the population of Ukraine and Russia. 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: However...In the great Kursk offensive...which you and I have discussed and I predicted the Russians would surround the Ukrainians and then proceed to kill them all... Months later, that has not happened. Russia has had to scrounge up some 50K soldiers and bring in North Koreans and the still can't dislodge Ukraine. 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Even the CTV is admitting the offensive is failing. How many Russians and North Koreans? Yet again, you completely ignore the other side. Kursk is a major success in that any land deal for peace will now have to take this into account. Of course, you want Russia to win... so this bothers you. 11 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I present reality. You do remember reality, don't you? No you don't. You push lies and Russian propaganda. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 (edited) 10 minutes ago, User said: No, Putin is waging a war against Ukraine, it is his war machine depleting both the population of Ukraine and Russia. Months later, that has not happened. Russia has had to scrounge up some 50K soldiers and bring in North Koreans and the still can't dislodge Ukraine. How many Russians and North Koreans? Yet again, you completely ignore the other side. Kursk is a major success in that any land deal for peace will now have to take this into account. Of course, you want Russia to win... so this bothers you. No you don't. You push lies and Russian propaganda. Having participated in several threads that I'm in as well, you know that your efforts to shame me will only land on the ground, wither and die. Why do you try? You'll just bruise your forehead banging it against a wall. Like I said...reality is what it is. You're apparently wildly upset about all this but, I'm not hampered with emotion over this issue because... I don't like how this all was started, nor the lead-up to it, and IMO the money and lives sunk into this has been a waste. Everyone knew when this started that if Russia attacked...Putin was not in a position to lose. He has to win this and if his goal is to maintain the Donbas region and Crimea... he is winning. Edited January 14 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
NAME REMOVED Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Having participated in several threads that I'm in as well, you know that your efforts to shame me will only land on the ground, wither and die. Why do you try? You'll just bruise your forehead banging it against a wall. You do a fine job of shaming yourself. 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I don't like how this all was started, nor the lead-up to it, and IMO the money and lives sunk into this has been a waste. Everyone knew when this started that if Russia attacked...Putin was not in a position to lose. He has to win this and if his goal is to maintain the Donbas region and Crimea... Putin invaded the whole country. Not just Donbass. 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: he is winning. At this point in time, it is a stalemate. You should be ashamed for rooting for an enemy of North America, invading a much smaller country for territorial gain. Quote
User Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 24 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Having participated in several threads that I'm in as well, you know that your efforts to shame me will only land on the ground, wither and die. Why do you try? You'll just bruise your forehead banging it against a wall. Shame you? I already know that doesn't work. I am just pointing out the facts about what it is you have said here. 24 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Like I said...reality is what it is. You're apparently wildly upset about all this but, I'm not hampered with emotion over this issue because... The issue isn't reality, it is your attempt to lie about it and spin. Just like here... you blame Zelensky for killing his people when it is Putin killing them. That is the reality. Quote
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