Chicken Little Harper Minority

[the Liberal]

The Liberals will be back in power and they could even pull a majority landslide on the soon coming up Canadian Federal election.

After seeing the dismal attitude by Chicken Little Stephen Harper acting as if he will be in power for ever and there for we don’t have to talk to any one about anything, "DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO" Harper is scary and the Canadian voter is slowly recognising this chilling fact.

The draft is in the picture for Harper if he got a majority mandate, the decriminalisation of Marijuana, is not Harpers priority, but to do the crime and do the time is a scary thought if you got cote with a joint you will do the time. Harper is secretly thinking on a model on how to build new Jails. Harper is an unethical loser and the Canadian voter is soon to experience the Gestapo idiot Mulroney boot. Like pigs on the way to the slaughter house, is what idiot Mulroney had the Canadian voter run like.

Joe who?

[Michael Hardner]

The draft is in the picture for Harper if he got a majority mandate,

Sorry, are you talking about conscription here ? Or the draft bill from the Liberals ?

[wellandboy]

The Liberals will be back in power and they could even pull a majority landslide on the soon coming up Canadian Federal election.

After seeing the dismal attitude by Chicken Little Stephen Harper acting as if he will be in power for ever and there for we don’t have to talk to any one about anything, "DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO" Harper is scary and the Canadian voter is slowly recognising this chilling fact.

The draft is in the picture for Harper if he got a majority mandate, the decriminalisation of Marijuana, is not Harpers priority, but to do the crime and do the time is a scary thought if you got cote with a joint you will do the time. Harper is secretly thinking on a model on how to build new Jails. Harper is an unethical loser and the Canadian voter is soon to experience the Gestapo idiot Mulroney boot. Like pigs on the way to the slaughter house, is what idiot Mulroney had the Canadian voter run like.

Joe who?

I guess the last 70 days has been unkind to you.

[the Liberal]

The Liberals will be back in power and they could even pull a majority landslide on the soon coming up Canadian Federal election.

After seeing the dismal attitude by Chicken Little Stephen Harper acting as if he will be in power for ever and there for we don’t have to talk to any one about anything, "DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO" Harper is scary and the Canadian voter is slowly recognising this chilling fact.

The draft is in the picture for Harper if he got a majority mandate, the decriminalisation of Marijuana, is not Harpers priority, but to do the crime and do the time is a scary thought if you got cote with a joint you will do the time. Harper is secretly thinking on a model on how to build new Jails. Harper is an unethical loser and the Canadian voter is soon to experience the Gestapo idiot Mulroney boot. Like pigs on the way to the slaughter house, is what idiot Mulroney had the Canadian voter run like.

Joe who?

I guess the last 70 days has been unkind to you.

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The fact is people who have an average body mass and walk around with their arms stretched out from the sides of their body’s thinking they are bigger than they really are, they are suffering from a condition called (I am bigger than life) and approximately 18 months from now Harper will be faced with a rude awakening.

Harper will steal you vote and tell you to keep quiet. Think as a brick?

Your next 18 months will unkind to you politicly speaking.

[Cameron]

ALCAN makes good aluminum-foil. Would you like me to make you a hat?

The Liberal, I'm not really sorry for your loss Jan 23. It was about time that the Liberals were taken out of power, they were starting to look like the Gestapo, with their death-grip on the Canadian political scene. You will find that in the coming months and years, the CPC will do more than the Liberals could ever dream about (making decisions was tough for Martin, he was a frightened boy with wide eyes but no gust to sign the paper).

Just sit back and watch Canada be rebuilt from years of in-decisions, poor planning, and lack of leadership.

It's really warm and nice out today, I think I'll go out and bathe in the sunlight and bask in the utopia that is being created...

[sideshow]

I think the liberals are the lesser of the two evils as a whole. The liberals were corrupt and arrogant. People forget that the conservatives were killing the country prior to 93, and the liberals cleaned things up though (economically).

I think Harper will play his cards tight and carefull though. I think if he can keep from (and i think he will) pulling another gaff (like his emerson and company HUGE BONER), he will form a majority next time around.

If he is smart, he wont touch gay marriage, and he will leave the decriminalization of marijuana alone. If he could keep his hands off of those two hotpotatoes and stick to his fiscal policy, he will garner more youth votes, and keep from seeming so extreme. He wont please his religious right group, but they wouldnt vote for liberal or ndp anyways, so he has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

now if he could just get a personality.....

[geoffrey]

What country are you talking about? Mulroney saved Canada from the grips of Trudeauist socialism.

We are only a rich nation now because of the economic liberalism of Mulroney and the Martin Finance portfolio.

[sideshow]

You do remember the recession? And the 18% mortgage rates?

There was a reason the conservates were decimated to two seats. And it cant be blamed on Kim.

[geoffrey]

Before my time, and before the Conservatives. The largest recession was in 1982 with the Trudeau government at the helm.

In 1990 a small recession was experienced, but not to the extent of under Trudeau.

About interest rates, firstly, they are controlled independantly by the Bank of Canada since the days of R.B. Bennett, so its not likely that you can blame the government directly for that.

However, the overnight rate for 1990 topped out at 14.05%.

It was above this for nearly 4 years from 1979-1983, topping out at 19.06%. This wasn't even high enough in hindsight, as the real lending rate was a negative number for quite a few months.

Remember as well, high interest rates are there for a reason. If they weren't, you'd be complaining about inflation.

Sources:

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/pdf/annual_page1_page2.pdf

[scribblet]

Before my time, and before the Conservatives. The largest recession was in 1982 with the Trudeau government at the helm.

In 1990 a small recession was experienced, but not to the extent of under Trudeau.

About interest rates, firstly, they are controlled independantly by the Bank of Canada since the days of R.B. Bennett, so its not likely that you can blame the government directly for that.

However, the overnight rate for 1990 topped out at 14.05%.

It was above this for nearly 4 years from 1979-1983, topping out at 19.06%. This wasn't even high enough in hindsight, as the real lending rate was a negative number for quite a few months.

Remember as well, high interest rates are there for a reason. If they weren't, you'd be complaining about inflation.

Sources:

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/pdf/annual_page1_page2.pdf

Mulroney had the best economic record

http://www.mcgill.ca/files/economics/Press_Release.pdf

Mulroney's numbers best in a half century in updated study by

McGill professors

In an updated study of Canadian Prime Ministers since the end of World War II, two

McGill University professors conclude that Brian Mulroney has the best economic record

in the last half century.

In the original 1993 study, economist Tom Velk and historian A.R. Riggs, concluded that

Mulroney's numbers were the best since Louis St. Laurent presided over the post-war

economic boom, one of several reasons–including unavailable measurements and variations

for those years–“why we discount to a degree, the St. Laurent ranking.” In any case,

they note, “the difference between St. Laurent and Mulroney is small and the difference

between either one of them and anyone else is significant.”

Seven years later, they have updated their study to include the Chretien years. While

Mr. Chretien is still in office and his record still incomplete, they conclude that “when all

the numbers are examined, Mr. Chretien's accomplishments aren't enough. Mr. Mulroney

remains the man to beat.”

The researchers based their conclusions on a composite score of 18 components of the

“misery index,” as devised by left-wing economist Arthur Okun, and later elaborated by

right-wing economist Robert Barro. In its classic form, the misery index is the sum of two

outcome rates, inflation and unemployment. Barro, Velk and Riggs add more variables,

such as interest and exchange rates, taxes and deficits, income distribution, growth and

productivity.

In the post World War II era, the end of the Mackenzie King period is excluded, since not

all relevant data for the expanded misery index are available, and the St. Laurent years

are somewhat anomalous because of the post-war boom. For example: “Among PMs for

whom there is a statistical record, only St. Laurent has significantly better inflation recuperation

data than Mulroney, but his record is a consequence of the end of World War II,

the recovery from which went on all over the world, without special help from Ottawa.”

The two studies compare the economic records of six prime ministers in the post-war

period, St. Laurent, John Diefenbaker, Lester B. Pearson, Pierre Trudeau, Mulroney and

Chretien. The studies do not include the prime ministerships of Joe Clark, John Turner

and Kim Campbell, all of whom were in office for a period of months rather than years,

and left no economic footprints.

On the expanded misery index, a negative score is positive (showing a good over-all

record) and a positive score is negative (a bad over-all record). The revised standing for

prime ministers, going back to Pearson, benchmarked by the beginning of the fiscal year

following their taking office:

Misery Index Score Ranking among PMs

Pearson: 2.56 2

Trudeau: 5.67* 3

Mulroney: -0.11 1

Chretien: 16.88 4

(*Mr. Trudeau's score is a blended average of his two FY tenures, 69-78, and 80-83)

In commenting upon their work, the authors say that their “methodology may explain

why Jean Chretien comes up short, in spite of the disappearing deficit and shrinking

unemployment. Our benchmarking is based, in part, on how a Prime Minister does given

a situation he inherited, on the direction of change during his term, how well he does in

comparison with contemporaneous American leaders, and whether his successful policies

mark a lasting departure from those of the past.”

Mr. Chretien, they contend, “inherited an economy whose fundamentals were sound—low

inflation, low interest rates, a shrinking government share of the overall economy, a relatively

strong dollar and expanding trade.”

One of the tests of economic leadership, Velk and Riggs write, is whether “a leader improves

the situation he inherited from the previous government, and outperforms contemporaries

in other nations.”

On the key expanded misery index tests of inflation and interest rates, the authors note

that “Mulroney presided over a general fall in interest rates that lasted more or less his

entire time in office. Inflation took a beating during the Mulroney years, dropping to

about 1.6% in his final year. Mr. Mulroney, unlike Mr. Chretien, inherited a troubled

economy; interest rates and inflation were sky high.”

The authors add: “Mulroney's record on unemployment reduction is good. The average

level of joblessness during his time in office was two percentage points lower than during

the last year of the Trudeau administration. Mulroney's performance on the growth indicator,

however, is sub-par, mainly because of the 1990-91 worldwide recession.”

When the study is updated to include the Chretien years, and taking into account the

[cybercoma]

The Liberals will be back in power and they could even pull a majority landslide on the soon coming up Canadian Federal election.

After seeing the dismal attitude by Chicken Little Stephen Harper acting as if he will be in power for ever and there for we don’t have to talk to any one about anything, "DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO" Harper is scary and the Canadian voter is slowly recognising this chilling fact.

The draft is in the picture for Harper if he got a majority mandate, the decriminalisation of Marijuana, is not Harpers priority, but to do the crime and do the time is a scary thought if you got cote with a joint you will do the time. Harper is secretly thinking on a model on how to build new Jails. Harper is an unethical loser and the Canadian voter is soon to experience the Gestapo idiot Mulroney boot. Like pigs on the way to the slaughter house, is what idiot Mulroney had the Canadian voter run like.

Joe who?

scary, chilling, scary, boo! AAAH!! Unethical idiot losers. Scary idiots! AAAH!!!

HITLER!

[politika]

The Liberals will be back in power and they could even pull a majority landslide on the soon coming up Canadian Federal election.

After seeing the dismal attitude by Chicken Little Stephen Harper acting as if he will be in power for ever and there for we don’t have to talk to any one about anything, "DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO" Harper is scary and the Canadian voter is slowly recognising this chilling fact.

The draft is in the picture for Harper if he got a majority mandate, the decriminalisation of Marijuana, is not Harpers priority, but to do the crime and do the time is a scary thought if you got cote with a joint you will do the time. Harper is secretly thinking on a model on how to build new Jails. Harper is an unethical loser and the Canadian voter is soon to experience the Gestapo idiot Mulroney boot. Like pigs on the way to the slaughter house, is what idiot Mulroney had the Canadian voter run like.

Joe who?

What you don;t believe in tougher laws? If he decides to bring in the death penalty for smoking MJ I wouldn't care. I don't do it so I have nothing to worry about. What do you think?

[geoffrey]

Whether or not is a morally good thing to do, anyone that has smoking pot as a priority doesn't deserve public office.

With all the problems the world has, letting people smoke their drugs doesn't really seem that important to me. Thank God it's not his priority.

How stupid.

[sideshow]

the point is exactly that-who cares if people smoke pot.

as for mulroney, phooey. his love in with america was killing canada-and the people voted him out-and the people are never wrong.

as for harper, same conservatives, just different leader. i can put a different wrapper on the can of beans-but they will still be beans.

[Leader Circle]

the point is exactly that-who cares if people smoke pot.

as for mulroney, phooey. his love in with america was killing canada-and the people voted him out-and the people are never wrong.

as for harper, same conservatives, just different leader. i can put a different wrapper on the can of beans-but they will still be beans.

These same people who are never wrong gave Mulroney 2 majority governments and in 84 Canada's largest ever majority gov't!!

I think Harper will get his turn at majority, much to the dismay of people like you!

[Nocrap]

the point is exactly that-who cares if people smoke pot.

as for mulroney, phooey. his love in with america was killing canada-and the people voted him out-and the people are never wrong.

as for harper, same conservatives, just different leader. i can put a different wrapper on the can of beans-but they will still be beans.

These same people who are never wrong gave Mulroney 2 majority governments and in 84 Canada's largest ever majority gov't!!

I think Harper will get his turn at majority, much to the dismay of people like you!

The Liberals will only return to power if they get a leader above reproach.....hmmm...slim pickings so far. However, "Mr. Accountability" Harper has a long way to go before he can prove to the Canadian people that he resembles anything of an ethical person. He has done more to discredit himself and his party in the first few months than any other politician.

The NDP is looking better all the time.

[scribblet]

the point is exactly that-who cares if people smoke pot.

as for mulroney, phooey. his love in with america was killing canada-and the people voted him out-and the people are never wrong.

as for harper, same conservatives, just different leader. i can put a different wrapper on the can of beans-but they will still be beans.

These same people who are never wrong gave Mulroney 2 majority governments and in 84 Canada's largest ever majority gov't!!

I think Harper will get his turn at majority, much to the dismay of people like you!

I agree, I'm beginning to think he will have a majority next time around as the approval rating seems to be increasing. His accountability package will likely pass as the NDP put forward a similar deal.

If the opposition votes against the law and order issues it will look bad for them, IMO most people want a firmer stance on serious crime. Also, it appears we may be getting a GST cut as well as keeping the liberal tax decrease. After all, Ralphie told us there was a larger surplus than thought.

So far, other than the Emerson deal, of which he was cleared, Harper is doing well and appears to be pretty shrewd as he realized his window of opportunity might be limited, and so, nipped the bud of generally pro liberal media sniping which seems to be working in his favour. Better to let the media sulk than give them opportunity to spin and misinform the public.

He has made some good decisive decisions while all the press can do is harp about his waist line and how he dresses. As if that makes for good governance.

So all the whining about Bush etc. means nothing, let em whine.