The Moment Vance Lost the Debate

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Did she claim that she was the actual winner?

She said he stole the election. 

Hillary Clinton: Trump is an ‘illegitimate president’ - The Washington Post

 “he knows” that he stole the 2016 presidential election

So if she's the other candidate and he's illegitimate and stole the election then obviously she was the legitimate president who had the election stolen from her.  Pretty damn hard to argue that isn't the case. 

And this mirrors what trump has said - biden stole the election and cheated and was not legitimate. 

If you're going to try some sort of columbo-style word weaseling don't waste either of our time.    She said he was not the president. Trump says biden is not the president. Dance as you will it's the same thing. 

The difference between the two is she  realized there was no way she could change the fact he was going to be announced as president and stopped trying (although she did wait unusually long to concede) whereas he didn't realize that he wasn't going anywhere with it and kept his dream alive by convincing hiself there was some sort of legal loophole he might find or that some magic evidence of fraud would appear etc. 

Which was dumb, it was over and that was that.  But - it's trump and in his mind everything is about court. 

 

And lets be clear - this was all inevitable.  Since the 2000's and even before people have been loosing faith in the US elections by leaps and bounds. Since 2000 the vast vast majority of the voters for whichever side lost believed it was 'rigged' somehow, and it's been getting worse.  Both republicans and democrats have been undermining the public's trust in the institution and the voting system leaves itself more and more open to 'undetected' interference, so whether there was or wasn't it COULD be and you can't prove otherwise, which just begs people to assume the worst. 

As I have said many times unless this gets corrected substantially this problem is going to grow worse and worse until nobody has any belief in the electoral system and the obvious conclusion that comes from that is the only way your side can gain power is through force.

 

At its heart, the democratic process is a way for the public to conduct peaceful revolutions to essentially overthrow the government without actually needing to overthrow the government.

But if you make that peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable. JFK said as much and he was quite right.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Translation-"am mad, trying to meme my way out of it." 🙃

Translation: " i'm furious that he's not mad and so i'll pretend he is  "

The guy who spends an hour deleting his posts where he losta discussion on the internet and then spends hours chasing the guy who beat him around the forum trying desperately to beg him to be angry is probably the guy who's angry, not the guy who's laughing at him doing it   

I just fascinated to see how this ends. Will he actually delete his account? Will he turn around and decide to stay and attempt to blow it off that's just a temper tantrum? Does he even know?  

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Translation: " i'm furious that he's not mad and so i'll pretend he is  "

The guy who spends an hour deleting his posts where he losta discussion on the internet and then spends hours chasing the guy who beat him around the forum trying desperately to beg him to be angry is probably the guy who's angry, not the guy who's laughing at him doing it   

I just fascinated to see how this ends. Will he actually delete his account? Will he turn around and decide to stay and attempt to blow it off that's just a temper tantrum? Does he even know?  

Enough emojis to confirm. Check. 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Enough emojis to confirm. Check. 

Sure Kid 😊

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