August1991 Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 (edited) This is something of an issue in Summer 2024 because the current US candidate for V-P favours tampon dispensers in male washrooms. On this issue, I have no opinion. I have many other opinions on public washrooms. -Note to architects/equality people; Why are women/men washrooms the same size? Women take longer in the washroom than men. There is always a queue for the women's room. I have seen desperate women shepherded to the men's side. -Should we charge for public washrooms? In Europe, this is common. It used to require a person now it is a turnstile. I get the point but frankly, I prefer a tax on everyone to avoid the transaction cost. -Doors. Why do public washrooms have doors? An angle to enter provides enough privacy - although I've seen badly placed mirrors! -M/F together. I understand the plumbing issues but why are both side-by-side? Indeed, the women's is often on the other side of the elevator. -Starbucks/McDonalds effect. Around the world, Americans know that they can pee (or login online) at both places. How much is that worth to the brand? -Same sex toilets. On airplanes, everyone (M/F/whatever) goes into the same room. On planes, we accept to pee in the same place where a M/F/whetever has also peed. Elsewhere, it's separate. -Old age. Older people (and pregnant women) pee often. Depending on the population pyramid, we need more public places to pee.) Rather than subsidize the media, I think we should pay journalists to clean public washrooms. -Street urinals? I've seen them in France. I'm opposed. The construction-worker Johnny-on-the-spot, I understand. In poor countries, men have a tendency to urinate wherever. One of my measures of a civilization is how men pee; I once saw a Mercedes S-600 stop in a city (no country named), man got out, and peed. -Handwashing. Why do we keep this separate from peeing/pooping? Many places have small rooms for men/women but a common place to wash hands. Indeed, meany people go to the washroom merely to wash hands. -Notes not to put tampons in the toilet/block the toilet. -Returning to my first paragraph, in my various travels, I am in various schools and various school washrooms. Aside from the graffiti, another measure of civilization is seats in student washrooms. Edited August 7 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 Have to change some words: Here I sit brokenhearted paid a buck and only farted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUI_Offender Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 5 hours ago, August1991 said: -Note to architects/equality people; Why are women/men washrooms the same size? Women take longer in the washroom than men. There is always a queue for the women's room. I have seen desperate women shepherded to the men's side. Women should take less time. 5 hours ago, August1991 said: -Should we charge for public washrooms? In Europe, this is common. It used to require a person now it is a turnstile. I get the point but frankly, I prefer a tax on everyone to avoid the transaction cost. No. 5 hours ago, August1991 said: -Doors. Why do public washrooms have doors? An angle to enter provides enough privacy - although I've seen badly placed mirrors! Walmart washrooms have no doors. Although for smaller businesses, I favor doors, as I dont want to smell the aftermath of someone with the stomach flu using the toilet. 5 hours ago, August1991 said: -M/F together. I understand the plumbing issues but why are both side-by-side? Indeed, the women's is often on the other side of the elevator. No. 5 hours ago, August1991 said: -Starbucks/McDonalds effect. Around the world, Americans know that they can pee (or login online) at both places. How much is that worth to the brand? If they buy something. I guess it depends on what area of a city one is in. When i was living in Calgary, I would venture down 17th Ave SW near 14 st. Too many junkies use the washroom and shoot up. 5 hours ago, August1991 said: -Same sex toilets. On airplanes, everyone (M/F/whatever) goes into the same room. On planes, we accept to pee in the same place where a M/F/whetever has also peed. Elsewhere, it's separate. As long as one can lock the door. 5 hours ago, August1991 said: -Old age. Older people (and pregnant women) pee often. Depending on the population pyramid, we need more public places to pee.) Rather than subsidize the media, I think we should pay journalists to clean public washrooms. No. 5 hours ago, August1991 said: -Street urinals? I've seen them in France. I'm opposed. The construction-worker Johnny-on-the-spot, I understand. In poor countries, men have a tendency to urinate wherever. One of my measures of a civilization is how men pee; I once saw a Mercedes S-600 stop in a city (no country named), man got out, and peed. Maybe. I see men (and some cases women) urinating on the street in some inner city areas. Makes sense to just use a urinal, but I ahve a feeling the urinals in Winnipeg would be vandalised or stripped for their parts, or smashed up within a week. 5 hours ago, August1991 said: -Handwashing. Why do we keep this separate from peeing/pooping? Many places have small rooms for men/women but a common place to wash hands. Indeed, meany people go to the washroom merely to wash hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 8 Report Share Posted August 8 17 hours ago, August1991 said: On this issue, I have no opinion. I think its a laughable waste of tax payer dollars. Offer them at clinics. Sex health centers. They have no place in men's washrooms. This isn't inclusion, its poor and wasteful government policy. There is just no logical reasoning. Anxiety from buying them? Aren't most big box stores offering self-checkout? Can't you order it on Amazon? Inclusion to what? You're scared of being judged? Odds are your appearance is doing the bulk of the heavy lifting on that (if you're requiring tampons as a biological man)--just a hunch. People will be stuck on their own problems to give a s***. 17 hours ago, August1991 said: There is always a queue for the women's room. Women have a bit more to do, than men. Men whip it out, shake it off, and some wash their hands after the experience. Women need to change tampons, are typically much more meticulous on clean up after their experience (or at least from my vantage point, in the sheer uptick in toilet paper use in dating some)--check their makeup, socialize. Men wanting to go to the toilet together, and chatting--is just not a thing. 17 hours ago, August1991 said: Should we charge for public washrooms? No. I experienced this in Europe, and in the Philippines. For the latter, some of those that do, have an attendant prior to entry asking you: "Sir, to urinate or to defecate?" before charging you and handing you literally a couple squares of toilet paper (for the latter), essentially telling you you might as well use your bare hands. Yeah, no thanks. BUT, if it means the invested funds will guarantee the toilets are pristine clean (at all times)--I'd consider voting for it. 17 hours ago, August1991 said: Why do public washrooms have doors? If they're as nasty as gas station washrooms, to hold the stank in? 17 hours ago, August1991 said: Elsewhere, it's separate. Technically, cheaper to maintain. For women, it would likely mean she'd constantly have to deal with pee on the seat. For both, long lineups. Equality, right? This is what progress is? Misery for everyone! 12 hours ago, herbie said: Here I sit brokenhearted paid a buck and only farted. Jokes on you, with the attendant I took the p***, got in for 25 cents, took a s***, laughed awkward. Not only crapped, but had a stash of toilet paper in my breast pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted August 8 Report Share Posted August 8 I was going to the store once and asked my 16 year old daughter if she needed anything. She was sitting with a half dozen teen friends and asked me with a sneer: Yah why don't you pick me up some pads? So when I came back I plopped a box out of the bag onto the table in front of them and loudly claimed what a deal they were, NoName pads that were not only cheaper but so much more absorbent than the brand name ones... and walked away. Three sisters and 20 years with her Mom you think I give a shit? They have condoms in many women's washrooms so who cares? A petty grasping for plastic straws issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted August 9 Author Report Share Posted August 9 On 8/8/2024 at 5:57 PM, Perspektiv said: .... Women have a bit more to do, than men. Men whip it out, shake it off, and some wash their hands after the experience. '''' So why in God's good name are public M/F washrooms around the world the same size? It is obvious to me that women's washrooms should be larger, take up more square meters in the design phase of the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted August 9 Author Report Share Posted August 9 20 hours ago, herbie said: .... So when I came back I plopped a box out of the bag onto the table in front of them and loudly claimed what a deal they were.... Herbie, you buy Kotex pads in male washrooms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, August1991 said: So why in God's good name are public M/F washrooms around the world the same size? Women need more stalls. You can only put so many stalls in a square space before it stops being cost effective, IE space you can lease. 1 hour ago, August1991 said: take up more square meters in the design phase of the building. In a city like Hong Kong, that would be horrific planning. New York's dense downtown core, as well. You need to be aware of the reality. If I want so much returned on investment, leasable space must be so and so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 5 hours ago, August1991 said: Herbie, you buy Kotex pads in male washrooms? No silly! You buy NoName ones at the grocery store. And they'll never ask you to buy them again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 On 8/8/2024 at 4:17 PM, herbie said: They have condoms in many women's washrooms so who cares? Women are sexually active. They clearly, will not use them on themselves. Practical. Pads in men's washrooms are purely political. The odds of them being used, are slim to nil. Its making a statement. Maxi pads? My wife doesn't need me buying pads for her. If she ever does, she would request it. So, I put pads for less than a percent of the population? Makes no sense, unless you're a clinic. Why should my tax dollars fund this crap? Me offering, would be creepy, even though we have been together long. There is just not an opportunity where this is done, and makes me come across as a sweetheart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 Pads in Men's rooms are not political FFS. They're a matter of convenience. And have you ever seen them in a Men's room.. they're a suggestion for improving availability. Typical 'anything I don't like is woke and leftist BS. Yer sounding like my Dad 50 years ago griping about 'there's no need to show Kotex ads on TV' between all the fuzzy bears and kittens arse wipe commercials. FFS if men needed them there'd be dispensers on every telephone pole adn they'd be free or at least not taxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted August 19 Author Report Share Posted August 19 On 8/9/2024 at 2:00 PM, Perspektiv said: Women need more stalls. You can only put so many stalls in a square space before it stops being cost effective... Cost effective? ==== Surely Starbucks, McDo, Tim Horton's has figured this out. If not, I know what stock to buy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted August 19 Author Report Share Posted August 19 On 8/7/2024 at 5:29 PM, DUI_Offender said: ... Maybe. I see men (and some cases women) urinating on the street in some inner city areas. Good post, still laughing. Years ago, in Greece, I recall watching a woman step out of a truck, squat, pee, then return to the cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted August 19 Author Report Share Posted August 19 On 8/7/2024 at 5:29 PM, DUI_Offender said: Women should take less time. ... Sarcasm. Why should women take less time? DUI_Offender, you mean the opposite of your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 (edited) We used to go for Sunday Services at the Breakers in Point Roberts. It was at the end of a pier and they literally has a big round cattle trough to pee into. $100 says it drained directly in to the water under the pier. It also had ONE entrance/exit so if there was a fire you had to squeeze thru and run 100 yds of wooden pier to get back to land. And everyone was totally convinced beer in Tsawassen was more expensive be cause of "Cdn taxes". Also know a guy who's permit was refused for a new restaurant until he remodelled because the washroom was two square inches undersize when finished. So that can make a difference. Might also explain why women in the pub always went two at a time to the can and took half an hour. Maybe sat on top of each other to pee as there weren't enough stalls? Edited August 19 by herbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 On 8/10/2024 at 4:15 PM, herbie said: They're a matter of convenience. Make them paid in a coin dispenser, and I retract my statement. Paid by the government =political statement. On 8/10/2024 at 4:15 PM, herbie said: they're a suggestion for improving availability. I have yet to meet a woman that wasn't well equipped with sanitary products on a just in case basis. My wife is good on makeup, sanitary, etc etc. I couldn't care less if it's a paid dispenser. Where I have a problem with it is if it is funded by the government in any setting. Purely political. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 On 8/10/2024 at 4:15 PM, herbie said: Typical 'anything I don't like is woke Anything we shouldn't have to pay tax dollars on, is virtue signaling political posturing. Honestly, we can dispense edible panties in men's washrooms for all I care. Campbell soup. Ventilated condoms by Nike. I shouldn't be on the hook for it as a tax payer, unless we are talking critical infrastructure. IE clinics, hospitals, etc. Otherwise grab your dollar fifty and buy as you please. 19 hours ago, August1991 said: If not, I know what stock to buy Nestle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted August 22 Author Report Share Posted August 22 On 8/19/2024 at 4:45 PM, herbie said: We used to go for Sunday Services at the Breakers in Point Roberts. It was at the end of a pier and they literally has a big round cattle trough to pee into. $100 says it drained directly in to the water under the pier. ..... Entirely misses the point. ==== Herbie, women (females) require more space to pee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 (edited) No it doesn't. Women can't stand beside each other and pee into a cattle trough, so obviously there are fewer stalls per square foot. You can't fit a toilet into the same space as you can pack urinals against a wall. And a tampon/rag dispenser hangs on the wall and takes even less space than a urinal. Edited August 22 by herbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 8 hours ago, August1991 said: Herbie, women (females) require more space to pee Thats transphobic. Trans women can pee in a urinal. Women's washrooms could simply be equipped with more of them. Short skirt? No problem. Lift, whip, and dip (as in leave) o_O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 Woman just hoists her burka. squats and dips it into that little puddle of ice water. The next one screams contacting the lye soaked urinal cake. Fat lady squats and tears off the whole urinal and half the wall. Might be a few problems with that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted Sunday at 02:46 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:46 PM On 8/22/2024 at 5:22 PM, herbie said: Fat lady squats and tears off the whole urinal and half the wall. For the memes alone, should be implemented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slady61 Posted Sunday at 09:39 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:39 PM I wonder what the public’s reaction would be if we implemented restrooms specifically for people with larger body sizes. Like with the issue you were discussing here, it's true that people with larger bodies may have a harder time in restrooms. So, if we provided restrooms designed to accommodate their needs, it might be seen as a solution. However, I bet some would still view it as fatphobic, even though there are obese individuals who struggle with restroom accessibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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