CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: I just did you chucklef*ck. To the other 99 yes. Again: who else would determine it? There are more than 99 people in the village. Would you agree with this statement? Quote Validity is irrelevant. There is no basis for one person to judge the thoughts another person has about their own self. Edited August 3, 2024 by CouchPotato Quote
Black Dog Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 Just now, User said: No, you didn't. Saying woman is a social construct is not a definition. Keep running coward. Lol this is great, I hope you get so mad you have a heart attack and die. Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 Just now, Black Dog said: Lol this is great, I hope you get so mad you have a heart attack and die. You are the one who sounds angry here. How do most people in society define "woman"? Quote
User Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: Lol this is great, I hope you get so mad you have a heart attack and die. And you will still be a coward. Quote
Black Dog Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 1 minute ago, CouchPotato said: There are more than 99 people in the village. So? Should the one person's view be considered valid over the other 99? Just now, User said: And you will still be a coward. lol die mad. Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Genetics determines if an organism is male or female, it does not determine what is or is not a woman. This is a relatively new definition for the term woman. At one time, woman was synonymous with a biological female. People on the left give us this new definition that it refers to some construct called gender (which they are unable to define) and tell us it is so. Have most people accepted this definition? Edited August 3, 2024 by CouchPotato Quote
Black Dog Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: You are the one who sounds angry here. How do most people in society define "woman"? Some define strictly as biologically female, some define it primarily as someone who conforms to the social and cultural practices associated with members of the female physical sex. 5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: This is a relatively new definition for the term woman. At one time, woman was synonymous with a biological female. People on the left give us this definition and tell us it is so. Have most people accepted this definition? No that was never the case. "Woman" has always been defined as much by social/cultural expectations as biology. I mean at one point women weren't supposed to wear pants because they were "unwomanly." Edited August 3, 2024 by Black Dog Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 Just now, Black Dog said: Some define strictly as biologically female, some define it primarily as someone who conforms to the social and cultural practices associated with members of the female physical sex. If you ask most people what a woman is, what do you suppose the answer will be? Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 6 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Some define strictly as biologically female, some define it primarily as someone who conforms to the social and cultural practices associated with members of the female physical sex. No that was never the case. "Woman" has always been defined as much by social/cultural expectations as biology. I mean at one point women weren't supposed to wear pants because they were "unwomanly." The word "woman" predates the word "womanly". Quote
Black Dog Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: If you ask most people what a woman is, what do you suppose the answer will be? Most people where? Just now, CouchPotato said: The word "woman" predates the word "womanly". No shit sherlock. How can you decide something is not like something without a notion of what that something is supposed to be. Edited August 3, 2024 by Black Dog Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: Most people where? No shit sherlock. How can you decide something is not like something without a notion of what that something is supposed to be. Right and that thing was a biological female. Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 4 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Most people where? Most people in any society. Most people in all societies combined. Quote
Black Dog Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 4 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: Right and that thing was a biological female. No. You cannot discuss the concept of woman or woman hood and ignore the social aspect no matter how hard you try. Just now, CouchPotato said: Most people in any society. Most people in all societies combined. Do you think someone in Saudi Arabia would have the same definition of what a woman is than someone in the U.S.A? Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 Just now, Black Dog said: No. You cannot discuss the concept of woman or woman hood and ignore the social aspect no matter how hard you try. Sure I can. There was a word "woman" that existed before the term "woman hood". It was not invented to describe some amorophous concept. It referred to a biological adult female. "Womanly" then came about as term to describe a stereotypical view of biological adult females. Quote
User Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 21 minutes ago, Black Dog said: lol die mad. Keep running from the question: What is the definition of a woman? We all know why you can't answer it, you will be shown that your entire argument is crap. Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Do you think someone in Saudi Arabia would have the same definition of what a woman is than someone in the U.S.A? By consensus, yes. I think most people in either society would define woman as a biological adult female. They might define "womanly" differently. Quote
Black Dog Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: Sure I can. There was a word "woman" that existed before the term "woman hood". It was not invented to describe some amorophous concept. It referred to a biological adult female. "Womanly" then came about as term to describe a stereotypical view of biological adult females. There's nothing amorphous about the constructed gender roles that have historically defined woman. 4 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: By consensus, yes. I think most people in either society would define woman as a biological adult female. They might define "womanly" differently. So you think that a dude from Saudi Arabia would consider a American woman with a shaved head, tattoos, pierced everything wearing a crop top and short shorts to be a woman in the same way as his wife in a niqab? 4 minutes ago, User said: Keep running from the question: What is the definition of a woman? We all know why you can't answer it, you will be shown that your entire argument is crap. Call 9-1-1, you're having a stroke. Edited August 3, 2024 by Black Dog Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 Just now, Black Dog said: So you think that a dude from Saudi Arabia would consider a American woman with a shaved head, tattoos, pierced everything wearing a crop top and short shorts to be a woman in the same way as his wife in a niqab? He might not consider her as "womanly" but if she were a biological woman he would consider her a woman. Quote
User Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: Call 9-1-1, you're having a stroke. Keep running from the question: What is the definition of a woman? We all know why you can't answer it, you will be shown that your entire argument is crap. Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 woman (n.) "adult female human," late Old English wimman, wiman (plural wimmen), literally "woman-man," https://www.etymonline.com/word/woman Quote
Matthew Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 12 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: This is a relatively new definition for the term woman. Have most people accepted this definition? That would be interesting to know. But how people feel about things in their own private homes is less relevant than how institutuions and organizations treat the issue. Within professional spaces, business, Medical, academic, military, etc there are not traditionalist static ideas about women. Quote
CouchPotato Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, Matthew said: But how people feel about things in their own private homes is less relevant than how institutuions and organizations treat the issue. Do you agree with this statement, Black Dog? Edited August 3, 2024 by CouchPotato Quote
User Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 5 minutes ago, Matthew said: Within professional spaces, business, Medical, academic, military, etc there are not traditionalist static ideas about women. What do you mean by "women" here? Quote
Black Dog Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 30 minutes ago, User said: Keep running from the question: What is the definition of a woman? We all know why you can't answer it, you will be shown that your entire argument is crap. Nah no definition I have will satisfy you so I prefer to keep you sealioning and mad. Quote
Matthew Posted August 3, 2024 Report Posted August 3, 2024 31 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: woman (n.) "adult female human," late Old English wimman, wiman (plural wimmen), literally "woman-man," https://www.etymonline.com/word/woman Lol very helpful etymology lesson. Quote
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