Hodad Posted July 15, 2024 Report Posted July 15, 2024 2 hours ago, impartialobserver said: Here is the difference between us two on this.. I do not take predictions with the utmost seriousness. In short.. this sort of fear mongering does not motivate me. A prediction is not a declarative statement. Predictions are not fact. Look I get what you are saying. The facts do not motivate such a prediction. But they are not technically lying.. the event has not happened so there is no way to verify this. A declarative sentence is generally a simple statement that is used to provide information about something or state a fact. It ends with a full stop or a period. It is the most common type of sentence in the English language. Exactly. No future statement is factual. All forward looking statements are statements of intent or predictions. Quote
I am Groot Posted July 16, 2024 Report Posted July 16, 2024 23 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Of course politicians aren't honest. It's their job to lie about certain things. Any politician who doesn't lie about about a war they're in should be shot. BUT. There's no relationship between what Dems say and the truth. To simply say "both sides lie" is to pretend that the GOP are just as bad, which is disgusting. I agree. They're not as bad as the Democrats. They're worse. 23 hours ago, WestCanMan said: If there's something that the GOP lied about 1/10th as much as the Dems lied about BLM or collusion or covid I'd love to know what it is. Who won the 2020 election. Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 16, 2024 Author Report Posted July 16, 2024 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: I agree. They're not as bad as the Democrats. They're worse. Haha. Quote Who won the 2020 election. 2020 election b1tching last 2 months. How long did 2016 election b1tching last Groot? Russian collusion was a never-ending stream of lies and crimes that went on until the 2020 election campaign was starting. Basically 4 years. And guess who actually got cheating multiple times on the 2016 election? The Dems. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
impartialobserver Posted July 16, 2024 Report Posted July 16, 2024 18 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You're basically bragging about how low your standards are... I don't write down highly unlikely, slanderous predictions as statements of fact and I would never accept it from others, even if they're "on my side". Even a highly likely prediction should come with a qualifying statement, such as "Connor MacDavid will score 100 points next year unless he gets injured." I would definitely say something like "CNN will tell 30 lies tomorrow", because they've told 100 lies a day for the past ten years, and I can easily prove that. I think I accurately described what a declarative statement is, not sure why that's there... first, it appears that it really bothers that I do not get outraged about outlandish predictions. Folks make outlandish predictions all of the time.. ie sports. When someone makes a silly prediction like this, it says a few things about them. They are overconfident, braindead, or both. As to it being a lie.. not quite. A lie is when some says that the Carolina Hurricane won the 2024 Stanley Cup Final. First, it is easily verified that they did not. Second, for it to be a lie the person has to know the result or know how to find it. This prediction that you are foaming at the mouth over has not came to fruition yet. Is it likely that they will be wrong? Sure. When the time comes that the result can be verified.. then sure rub it in. Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 16, 2024 Author Report Posted July 16, 2024 41 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: As to it being a lie.. not quite. It was a declarative statement that was false and unsubstantiated. It wasn't humorous or thought-provoking or informative. Poetic license doesn't cover slander, especially in the absence of humour, and regarding such a serious topic. It was a lie, and nothing but. Journalistic integrity is as alive and well as Julius Caesar. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
impartialobserver Posted July 16, 2024 Report Posted July 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: It was a declarative statement that was false and unsubstantiated. It wasn't humorous or thought-provoking or informative. Poetic license doesn't cover slander, especially in the absence of humour, and regarding such a serious topic. It was a lie, and nothing but. Journalistic integrity is as alive and well as Julius Caesar. It is a prediction... how do i and everyone else in the world (except you of course) know this? The inclusion of the word, "Will".. "Will" is not the same as is no matter how you twist it. If the word/phrase had been one of the following.. did, is, had done, you would have a point. When Trump is elected.. then we can verify this prediction. Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 16, 2024 Author Report Posted July 16, 2024 22 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: It is a prediction... It was a slanderous prediction in the form of a declarative statement, and that's not good enough. The bar is not set that low, earthworms need to be able to get under it. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
impartialobserver Posted July 16, 2024 Report Posted July 16, 2024 Just now, WestCanMan said: It was a slanderous prediction in the form of a declarative statement, and that's not good enough. The bar is not set that low, earthworms need to be able to get under it. Oh... so it was a prediction. What took you so long to admit it? So lets see if it plays out. If the prediction is wrong.. which we will not find out for a year or so.. then feel free to call him/her on it. 1 Quote
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