Former Swiss Intelligence Officer Blows the Whistle on West’s Ukraine Invasion Narrative

phoenyx75 · May 25

The article referenced below was translated to English over 2 years ago, but I still think it's one of the best articles to explain the immediate lead up to Russia's decision to intervene in the civil war in Ukraine that started 8 years before, back in 2014. I usually keep the title of an article intact in a thread, but there's been some pushback as to whether he was really a "Former NATO Military Analyst", so I decided it'd be better to simply title him a former Swiss Intelligence Officer. Alright, with that said, here is the article in question:

https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/09/former-nato-military-analyst-blows-the-whistle-on-wests-ukraine-invasion-narrative/

I know some people are not keen on clicking on links, so I thought I'd quote some parts of his article. First, the introduction to his translated article:

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April 9, 2022

Jacques Baud, a NATO expert, denounces western coverage of the Ukraine invasion.

By Jacques Baud / French Intelligence Research Center

PART ONE: ON THE ROAD TO WAR

For years, from Mali to Afghanistan, I worked for peace and risked my life for it. It is therefore not a question of justifying the war, but of understanding what led us to it. I note that the “experts” who take turns on the television sets analyze the situation based on dubious information, most often hypotheses turned into facts, and therefore we no longer manage to understand what is happening. That’s how you create panic.

The problem is not so much who is right in this conflict, but how our leaders make their decisions.

Let’s try to examine the roots of the conflict. It starts with those who for the past eight years have been talking to us about “separatists” or “independence” from the Donbass. It’s wrong. The referendums conducted by the two self-proclaimed republics of Donetsk and Luhansk in May 2014 were not ” independence ” (независимость) referendums , as some unscrupulous journalists claimed , but ” self-determination ” or ” autonomy (самостоятельность). The term “pro-Russian” suggests that Russia was a party to the conflict, which was not the case, and the term “Russian speakers” would have been more honest. Moreover, these referendums were conducted against the advice of Vladimir Putin.

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There is a -lot- more interesting information in this article. I'll include just 2 more paragraphs that's around halfway through his article where he writes about what was happening in Ukraine a week before Russia's intervention:

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In fact, as early as February 16, Joe Biden knows that the Ukrainians began to shell the civilian populations of Donbass, putting Vladimir Putin in front of a difficult choice: to help Donbass militarily and create an international problem or to sit idle and watch Russian speakers. from the Donbass being run over.

If he decides to intervene, Vladimir Putin can invoke the international obligation of “ Responsibility To Protect ” (R2P). But he knows that whatever its nature or scale, the intervention will trigger a shower of sanctions. Therefore, whether its intervention is limited to the Donbass or whether it goes further to put pressure on the West for the status of Ukraine, the price to be paid will be the same. This is what he explains in his speech on February 21.

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myata · May 25

Russian bullshit.

Nationalist · May 26

On 5/25/2024 at 10:40 AM, myata said:

Russian bullshit.

Lol...typical denial of Tweenkies who don't like being exposed as liars.

phoenyx75 · May 26

On 5/25/2024 at 8:40 AM, myata said:

Russian bullshit.

It seems whenever anyone dares to say anything that goes against the western mainstream narrative, it's labelled as Russian propaganda or Russian [insert slur here]. The fact remains, however, that former Swiss Intelligence officer is Jacques Baud is Swiss, not Russian, and actually played a part in both arming Ukraine's military prior to Russia's military intervention, as well as examining Poland's claims that Russia helped Ukraine's rebels militarily prior to February 24, 2022 and finding no evidence to back them up.

Edited May 26 by phoenyx75

phoenyx75 · May 26

25 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

On 5/25/2024 at 8:40 AM, myata said:

Russian bullshit.

Lol...typical denial of Tweenkies who don't like being exposed as liars.

I think it's possible that myata actually believes that it's "Russian bullshit", as they say, but I also think we can agree that they're just following the western mainstream script of discounting any narrative that goes against the western mainstream narrative.

myata · May 26

Ignore Russian bullshit. They tell everything with their acts: no words needed, for anyone with one working cell in the eyes and in the brain. Nothing else to add here.

phoenyx75 · May 26

9 minutes ago, myata said:

Ignore Russian bullshit. They tell everything with their acts: no words needed, for anyone with one working cell in the eyes and in the brain. Nothing else to add here.

Here's an article from almost 2 years ago from Scheerpost, founded by award-winning journalist Robert Scheer:

https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/31/were-being-trained-to-worry-about-russian-propaganda-while-drowning-in-us-propaganda/

Nationalist · May 26

2 minutes ago, phoenyx75 said:

I think it's possible that myata actually believes that it's "Russian bullshit", as they say, but I also think we can agree that they're just following the western mainstream script of discounting any narrative that goes against the western mainstream narrative.

Ok granted. But that suggests myata is rather simple with his analysis. That the Ukraine war is actually "us verses them". It is not. We, western nations, should have no real skin in this game.

What is so important, that we should risk war with Russia? Ukrainian freedom from Russia? In lieu of what? Being bought outright by western nations? Because that's the price.

This is an interesting read...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

It's just games. Nuland, Biden, all of 'em...playing power games with Russia. And the same question always comes..."Why?"

29 minutes ago, myata said:

Ignore Russian bullshit. They tell everything with their acts: no words needed, for anyone with one working cell in the eyes and in the brain. Nothing else to add here.

Nothing else in there...

phoenyx75 · May 26

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

1 hour ago, phoenyx75 said:

I think it's possible that myata actually believes that it's "Russian bullshit", as they say, but I also think we can agree that they're just following the western mainstream script of discounting any narrative that goes against the western mainstream narrative.

Ok granted. But that suggests myata is rather simple with his analysis. That the Ukraine war is actually "us verses them". It is not.

Ah, on that we agree completely.

6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

We, western nations, should have no real skin in this game.

What is so important, that we should risk war with Russia? Ukrainian freedom from Russia? In lieu of what? Being bought outright by western nations? Because that's the price.

This is an interesting read...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

It's just games. Nuland, Biden, all of 'em...playing power games with Russia. And the same question always comes..."Why?"

I imagine it's the usual reasons: Money, power, things of that nature. It reminds me of a line the Oracle said in Matrix Reloaded: "What do all men with power want? More power." I'm not a fan of Trump, but I think there's plenty of merit in the fact that Biden's son and Biden, aka the "big guy" have profited from their connections in Ukraine and elsewhere.