The Republicans Who Want American Carnage

[robosmith]

The Republicans Who Want American Carnage

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The protesters at Columbia and other college campuses around the United States are voicing opposition to U.S. support for Israel’s war against Hamas, which began in retaliation for a Hamas raid that killed some 1,200 Israelis last October. Since then, more than 30,000 Palestinians have been killed, about 2 million displaced, and many driven to the brink of starvation. No sympathy for Hamas or anti-Semitism is necessary to believe, as I do, that Israel’s conduct here has been horrifically disproportionate; the U.S. government itself has acknowledged substantial evidence of human-rights violations by Israeli forces as well as by Hamas. There have been documented instances of anti-Semitic rhetoric and harassment surrounding the protests; a rabbi associated with Columbia University urged Jewish students to stay away, and the university’s president, Nemat Shafik, recommended that students not living on campus attend classes remotely for the time being. In the same way that the Israeli government’s conduct does not justify anti-Semitism, the anti-Semitic acts of some individuals associated with the protests do not justify brutalizing the protesters. As of this morning, the National Guard had not been called in, but hundreds of students participating in demonstrations across the country have been arrested.

If the campus authorities need to act to protect the safety of any of their students, including from threats, discrimination, and harassment, then they must. But the university is facing pressure from pro-Israel donors and elected officials to shut down the protests, less because they are dangerous than because these powerful figures find the protesters and their demands offensive.
Yet the kinds of mass violence and unrest that would justify deploying the National Guard are currently absent, and the use of state force against the protesters is likely to escalate tensions rather than quell them.

The New York Times reported that after Columbia University’s president, Nemat Shafik. asked the NYPD to clear the protesters’ tent city located on a campus quad, the “decision to bring in the police also unleashed a wave of activism across a growing number of college campuses.” As for Columbia, NYPD Chief John Chell told the Columbia Spectator that “the students that were arrested were peaceful, offered no resistance whatsoever, and were saying what they wanted to say in a peaceful manner.” The arrests did not end the protest.

Cotton and Hawley are demanding that Biden use force against the protesters not just because they consistently advocate for state violence against those who support causes they oppose as a matter of principle, but also because any escalation in chaos would redound to their political benefit. They don’t want to solve any problems; they want to make them worse so that the public will warm to “solutions” that will continue to make them worse. They don’t want order, or safety, or peace. What they want is carnage. 

UCLA encampment was peaceful for a WEEK until outside agitators descended on campus and started picking fights. 🤮

 

[User]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

UCLA encampment was peaceful for a WEEK until outside agitators descended on campus and started picking fights. 🤮

No, they were not "peaceful," and when they break the law, and you encourage it and encourage law enforcement to ignore them, you invite people to take matters into their own hands. 

This is not "peaceful" as they are using force to stop others from moving freely by them. 

 

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, User said:

No, they were not "peaceful," and when they break the law, and you encourage it and encourage law enforcement to ignore them, you invite people to take matters into their own hands. 

It was peaceful and they were NOT bothered by LEO for a WEEK.

2 minutes ago, User said:

This is not "peaceful" as they are using force to stop others from moving freely by them. 

 

Your video is from 3 days ago AFTER the outsiders starting picking fights LIKE I SAID and was reported on the NEWS.

Did you NOT KNOW THAT? Or just dishonestly IGNORING IT.

I live in So Cal so we get that on LOCAL NEWS. Where do YOU LIVE?

2 minutes ago, User said:

No, they were not "peaceful," and when they break the law, and you encourage it and encourage law enforcement to ignore them, you invite people to take matters into their own hands. 

It was peaceful and they were NOT bothered by LEO for a WEEK.

2 minutes ago, User said:

This is not "peaceful" as they are using force to stop others from moving freely by them. 

 

Your video is from 3 days ago AFTER the outsiders starting picking fights LIKE I SAID and was reported on the NEWS.

Did you NOT KNOW THAT? Or just dishonestly IGNORING IT.

I live in So Cal so we get that on LOCAL NEWS. Where do YOU LIVE?

[User]

52 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It was peaceful and they were NOT bothered by LEO for a WEEK.

No, it was not peaceful. This was before the unrest with counter-protestors. And they were breaking the law. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/pro-palestinian-encampment-blocks-ucla-students-from-entering-library-during-midterms/

You invite counter-protestors to take matters into their own hands when YOU condone and encourage this lawlessness. 

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

The Republicans Who Want American Carnage

UCLA encampment was peaceful for a WEEK until outside agitators descended on campus and started picking fights. 🤮

 

A. There is nothing peaceful about what's going on. These Libbies have attacked people and called for genocide.

B. Passover ends and some jews come out and lay a beating of some upidy Libbies. Giggle.

Edited May 5, 2024 by Nationalist

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, User said:

No, it was not peaceful. This was before the unrest with counter-protestors. And they were breaking the law. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/pro-palestinian-encampment-blocks-ucla-students-from-entering-library-during-midterms/

You invite counter-protestors to take matters into their own hands when YOU condone and encourage this lawlessness. 

Thanks for proving yourself WRONG. From your OWN CITE:

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"the demonstration remains largely peaceful"

 

[Nationalist]

This dumb crap is tearing the Democrat party support apart.

The Democrat lawfare is strengthening Republican support. 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/

Brandon's impotence is showing.

 

[User]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for proving yourself WRONG. From your OWN CITE:

 

Largely peaceful != peaceful

 

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, User said:

Largely peaceful != peaceful

 

Oh you know how these Libbies work. They can stand in front of a building on fire, while spewing forth Libbie talking points.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Oh you know how these Libbies work. They can stand in front of a building on fire, while spewing forth Libbie talking points.

You know the CONS work: no case = present BS hyperbole.

NO BUILDINGS ON FIRE at those demonstrations so you had to make some up.

[User]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

You know the CONS work: no case = present BS hyperbole.

NO BUILDINGS ON FIRE at those demonstrations so you had to make some up.

It was a figure of speech. You claimed they were peaceful and then ignored them when we pointed out there was violence there and then tried to act like you did not move the goalposts by trying to claim "largely peaceful" proved your point. 

Also, claiming it is peaceful doesn't excuse the vandalism, trespassing, obstruction of law enforcement, and refusal to follow lawful commands. 

 

[robosmith]

11 hours ago, User said:

It was a figure of speech. You claimed they were peaceful and then ignored them when we pointed out there was violence there and then tried to act like you did not move the goalposts by trying to claim "largely peaceful" proved your point. 

Also, claiming it is peaceful doesn't excuse the vandalism, trespassing, obstruction of law enforcement, and refusal to follow lawful commands. 

 

Local news reported NO INVOLVEMENT of LEO for a week before the counter protesters showed up.

Of course what ^you got is BUPKIS.

How pro-Palestinian camp, and an extremist attack, roiled the protest at UCLA

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April 25-30: UCLA protest establishes itself

 

Students began gathering April 25 at Dickson Plaza, an outdoor quad sandwiched between a library and the university’s historic concert hall, Royce Hall. Protesters called for an end to the war in Gaza and for UCLA  to be more transparent  about its financial ties with arms manufacturers and with Israel.  

They installed makeshift barricades of plywood and pallets to close up the protest area. Over the next few days, the protest grew to include a medic station and food area. Dozens of tents were also set up.

At the same time, people inside the camp said and livestream videos showed, pro-Israel protestors began to appear, usually late at night, to heckle the camp and bombard it with loud noises played over speakers. One student in the camp told USA TODAY this was like “psychological torture.”

April 30-May 1: The protest is attacked

 

A pivotal moment for the UCLA protest came after midnight Tuesday into Wednesday morning, when a large group of counter-protestors gathered on the lawn east of the camp. Some wore sweatshirts with pro-Israel messages, waved Israeli flags and flags tied to Jewish organizations, and chanted pro-Israel slogans.

For hours, counter-protesters attacked the camp, running in and pulling back sections of the makeshift fence, spraying chemical agents through holes in the barricade and launching fireworks into the camp.

The counter-protesters began attacking pro-Palestine protesters who ventured outside the camp, beating some with weapons and spraying them with pepper spray. Police had no obvious response or presence at the time. 

“I have scratches all over my body from being hit with sticks when I was dragged out into a group of counter-protestors,” 21-year-old student Aidan Doyle told USA TODAY. “They hit me on the back with sticks, slashed my elbow with a metal rod, maced me and then threw a hammer at my leg.”    

As the violence unfolded, UCLA released a statement at 12:12 a.m. Wednesday morning stating the university had “immediately called law enforcement for mutual aid support.” Yet police officers arrived almost three hours later. Even after officers arrived, protesters told USA TODAY, the assaults continued in a different part of the camp. No arrests of counter-protesters have been announced.

Later in the morning of May. 1, UCLA Chancellor Gene Block released a statement condemning the violence: “Late last night, a group of instigators came to Royce Quad to forcefully attack the encampment that has been established there to advocate for Palestinian rights,” the statement reads. “However one feels about the encampment, this attack on our students, faculty and community members was utterly unacceptable.” Block pledged to investigate the incident. 

May 1-2: Police dismantle the protest

 

Late Wednesday afternoon, dozens of police officers began amassing around the pro-Palestinian protest, most of them wearing riot gear.

Inside the camp, protesters began preparing for conflict. Personal protective equipment including hundreds of helmets, masks and eye goggles poured into the camp from donors, including students, as well as a continuous stream of scrap wood and construction materials to reinforce the barricades.

 

About 1:20 a.m. Thursday, a group of riot police entered the western edge of the camp and were faced with a wall of hundreds of protesters. The protesters chanted “Peaceful protest” and “Get out” as they walked towards the officers, pushing them back out of the camp.

Police at the main entrance later attempted to enter the camp, but were blocked by protesters  using shields and umbrellas. Protesters surrounded the police, chanting “Leave our campus!”

Shortly after 4 a.m. on Thursday, the police made their final push into the camp: Officers dismantled the barricade at the eastern edge of the protest, sometimes engaging in tussles with protesters. At least one man was seriously injured.

Officers moved steadily deeper into the camp as dozens of flash-bang explosives  exploded overhead and police fired foam projectiles into the camp. Many protestors left. 

At least 200 people were arrested as the camp was shut down, according to the university.

Like I said, IT WAS PEACEFUL for a week until the counter protesters showed up and started picking FIGHTS.

If you had any integrity, you would apologize for your  BULLSHIT

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

Local news reported NO INVOLVEMENT of LEO for a week before the counter protesters showed up.

Of course what ^you got is BUPKIS.

How pro-Palestinian camp, and an extremist attack, roiled the protest at UCLA

Like I said, IT WAS PEACEFUL for a week until the counter protesters showed up and started picking FIGHTS.

If you had any integrity, you would apologize for your  BULLSHIT

ROFLMAO...

Look who's talking about integrity.

Go ahead robo-bot...scream and yell more. That'll certainly make your lies come true.

 

Edited May 6, 2024 by Nationalist

[User]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

Local news reported NO INVOLVEMENT of LEO for a week before the counter protesters showed up.

Yeah, we know. That is the problem. Folks like you encouraged this lawlessness and then you get upset when others take matters into their own hands. 

The fact that LEO did nothing or next to nothing is not proof there was no violence, we already pointed out violence. It is simply proof they did nothing.