August1991 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 Quote First: Chairman Khrushchev, Prime Minister Macmillan, and I have agreed that high-level discussions will shortly begin in Moscow looking toward early agreement on a comprehensive test ban treaty. Our hopes must be tempered with the caution of history--but with our hopes go the hopes of all mankind. Second: To make clear our good faith and solemn convictions on the matter, I now declare that the United States does not propose to conduct nuclear tests in the atmosphere so long as other states do not do so. We will not be the first to resume. Such a declaration is no substitute for a formal binding treaty, but I hope it will help us achieve one. Nor would such a treaty be a substitute for disarmament, but I hope it will help us achieve it. https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/american-university-19630610 This speech was given in June 1963, after the October 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 3 hours ago, August1991 said: https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/american-university-19630610 This speech was given in June 1963, after the October 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. every JFK speech was great but he did incite the Cuban Missile Crisis in the first place while he was escalating in Vietnam yet lying to the American people about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 1 Author Report Share Posted March 1 22 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: every JFK speech was great but he did incite the Cuban Missile Crisis in the first place while he was escalating in Vietnam yet lying to the American people about it 1. Ted Sorenson was a good speech-writer. I started this thread because of the phrase 'pass the torch". Where does it come from? Anyone know? 2. Kennedy did NOT incite the Cuban Missile Crisis. 3. Agreed. Like Truman & Eisenhower, Kennedy wanted to defeat the Soviets, For good reason. Nixon kept peace. Reagan defeated them. ===== Since 1991 or so, we live in a new world that Americans have problem understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, August1991 said: 2. Kennedy did NOT incite the Cuban Missile Crisis. Bay of Pigs, relentless campaign against Fidel Castro after, when Castro was the Soviet Elvis Presley Massive escalation of the Cold War scaring the bejeezers out of the Soviets hyper aggressive nuclear testing, including btw launching hydrogen bombs into space, while the Cuban Missile Crisis was in progress yet at the same time being soft on Communism itself by giving the Soviets the impression that they could get away with it Jupiter missiles in Turkey, an offensive first strike weapon, with ten minute flight time to Moscow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 On 3/1/2024 at 6:27 PM, Dougie93 said: Bay of Pigs, relentless campaign against Fidel Castro after, when Castro was the Soviet Elvis Presley Massive escalation of the Cold War scaring the bejeezers out of the Soviets hyper aggressive nuclear testing, On the contrary, I reckon that Nixon, Kennedy understood the problem. IME, you Americans are self-centred. You always view life as one of your problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 On 5/8/2024 at 1:26 AM, August1991 said: IME, you Americans are self-centred. You always view life as one of your problems. Glorious Union to free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying New Jerusalem Shining City on a Hill God's chosen people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 On 5/8/2024 at 1:26 AM, August1991 said: On the contrary, I reckon that Nixon, Kennedy understood the problem. Kennedy massively escalated the Cold War, not just in Vietnam, but at the Geostrategic level as well then Nixon came in and deescalated what Kennedy had wrought, in bypassing Moscow to go straight to Beijing then Dutch Reagan finished the Soviets off, with Morning in America Peace Through Strength Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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