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An angry caller on CPAC called the media "bubbleheads" for not challenging Martin after he announced his tuition policy. The caller said that after closer inspection and calculation, he's better off with the current policy than the new one.

Paul Wells explained that the Liberals told the media of the new policy only minutes before Martin announced it publicly, thus there was no time to really ponder on it. He also implied the Liberals were too slow in providing the details. Paul Wells seem to agree with the caller. He said that by the end of this week or sometime next week, his own website will post an analysis on the policy.

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From what I understand, the Liberal proposal is aimed at 55,000 post-secondary students who at present pay on average $4,000 annual tuition fees. The Liberals propose to pay half of the tuition fee (up to a maximum subsidy of $3000) for the first year and last year of studies. In addition, students and families will no longer receive the tuition tax credit.

It's worth noting that different provinces have different tuition policies. The Liberal proposal will be worth more to students in provinces with high tuition fees.

The Liberals are saying that this proposal will cost $7 billion.

My general feeling is that the federal government should not get directly involved in education. These questions should be left up to the provincial governments.

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And as some students have pointed out, what good is tuition breaks when there is no money for universities to expand programs or facililties to accommodate more students.

"Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains."

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From what I understand, the Liberal proposal is aimed at 55,000 post-secondary students who at present pay on average $4,000 annual tuition fees. The Liberals propose to pay half of the tuition fee (up to a maximum subsidy of $3000) for the first year and last year of studies. In addition, students and families will no longer receive the tuition tax credit.

It's worth noting that different provinces have different tuition policies. The Liberal proposal will be worth more to students in provinces with high tuition fees.

The Liberals are saying that this proposal will cost $7 billion.

My general feeling is that the federal government should not get directly involved in education. These questions should be left up to the provincial governments.

Agreed.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander Hamilton

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And as some students have pointed out, what good is tuition breaks when there is no money for universities to expand programs or facililties to accommodate more students.

Also, class size. When I was a student in 200-level university, with hundreds in class it was mind-numbing... :(

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander Hamilton

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In addition, students and families will no longer receive the tuition tax credit.

Where did you find thatpart of the policy? I just looked on the lib website, useless. I had not heard that part of it, and it is somewhat disturbing.

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When will you get it thawed out?

???

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander Hamilton

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In addition, students and families will no longer receive the tuition tax credit.

Where did you find thatpart of the policy? I just looked on the lib website, useless. I had not heard that part of it, and it is somewhat disturbing.

The so-called 50/50 plan, announced by Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waterloo on Thursday, would pay half of all student tuitions up to $3,000 in the first and last year of their full college or university programs. But families who take the grant would no longer be eligible to receive the federal tuition tax credit.
Toronto Star
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My general feeling is that the federal government should not get directly involved in education. These questions should be left up to the provincial governments.

Yet another example, like we needed one, of why provincial/federal relations are so confrontational and often adversarial. The Liberals just cannot help themselves from interfering.

"When will you get it thawed out?"

Thanks for that Eureka, a couple more moments like that and you'll have me believing in your humanity.

The government should do something.

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My general feeling is that the federal government should not get directly involved in education. These questions should be left up to the provincial governments.

Yet another example, like we needed one, of why provincial/federal relations are so confrontational and often adversarial. The Liberals just cannot help themselves from interfering.

"When will you get it thawed out?"

Thanks for that Eureka, a couple more moments like that and you'll have me believing in your humanity.

I thought Eureka's comment was directed at me... :rolleyes: ...thanks for the clarification!!!

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander Hamilton

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In addition, students and families will no longer receive the tuition tax credit.

Where did you find thatpart of the policy? I just looked on the lib website, useless. I had not heard that part of it, and it is somewhat disturbing.

The so-called 50/50 plan, announced by Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waterloo on Thursday, would pay half of all student tuitions up to $3,000 in the first and last year of their full college or university programs. But families who take the grant would no longer be eligible to receive the federal tuition tax credit.
Toronto Star

Thanks August. I would like to see the actual policy on this one as well though. Does the student forego the tuition tax credit only on the $3000 or the whole thing? Does the student foregoe the tax credit for all four years? They seem to be quite vague on this issue.

Any further insight into this would be appreciated.

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In addition, students and families will no longer receive the tuition tax credit.

Where did you find thatpart of the policy? I just looked on the lib website, useless. I had not heard that part of it, and it is somewhat disturbing.

The so-called 50/50 plan, announced by Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waterloo on Thursday, would pay half of all student tuitions up to $3,000 in the first and last year of their full college or university programs. But families who take the grant would no longer be eligible to receive the federal tuition tax credit.
Toronto Star

Thanks for the info, it doesn't look all that great does it.

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