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2 hours ago, August1991 said:

WWI decided nothing.

In the future, no one will refer to WWI or WWII.

Nowadays, we refer to the Thirty Years War 

Well it changed warfare, it reshaped everything about it, it introduced newer and better ways to kill each other, how we employed those new weapons' and tactics. It shaped how warfare was done in 1939 -1945...On the medical side of things great advances in medical fields was due to WWI...same as aviation it was turned on it's head, it is where the First Geneva conventions were made...  these are a few things that were decided or the outcome of WWI...It is where Canada became a nation....like i said maybe some research.

I'll refer to the experts which none or most do not combine both wars into one period of history... 

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35 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Agreed.

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I have walked various war cemeteries.

 

During my tour in Germany i visited dozens of war grave sites, memorials, Canadians, German, US although France Belgium, and Germany.... And the message i got from my visit was drastically different than yours, I'm not saying your experience is wrong...at first my original thoughts were what a waste of young men and women, so many paid the price demanded by their nations..... it drove me to start my research to study these conflicts and over and over again i got the same answers what a waste of life..

But it was my experience in war that gave me a new direction. I volunteered for many different reasons, i continued to go back and face those horrors for the men and women on the left and right of me...not for Canada, not for the people of Canada, back home we did not matter, the war did not matter...It became our war...not Canada's or her tax payers...but ours...ours alone...it is still that way today...

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25 minutes ago, herbie said:

Actually it did. It decided WW2 was inevitable...

Perhaps it did, but thats not what he meant in his post it was Nov 11 date meant nothing to him becasue the Versailles treaty meant nothing....when we were talking about rememberance day itself...

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1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

... i visited dozens of war grave sites, memorials, Canadians, German, US although France Belgium, and Germany.... And the message i got from my visit was drastically different than yours, I'm not saying your experience is wrong...at first my original thoughts were what a waste of young men and women, so many paid the price demanded by their nations..... it drove me to start my research to study these conflicts and over and over again i got the same answers what a waste of life..

But it was my experience in war that gave me a new direction. I volunteered for many different reasons, i continued to go back and face those horrors for the men and women on the left and right of me...not for Canada, not for the people of Canada, back home we did not matter, the war did not matter...It became our war...not Canada's or her tax payers...but ours...ours alone...it is still that way today...

Like you. I have visited many war graves.

The Americans bring their dead to a central place.

The Commonwealth bury their dead nearby.

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One time, I had to explain in French to a Russian woman why a Canadian airman was buried in a Catholic cemetery in France. (He died in August 1944.)

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On 11/14/2023 at 5:27 AM, August1991 said:

I recall saying to my mother that between June 1940 (fall of France) and June 1941 (invasion of Russia), England was alone.   

That's not true.

Not only did we have the British Empire behind us but also brave airmen from the likes of Poland and Czechoslovakia. Even men from the Republic of Ireland joined the cause just 20 years after fighting a war of Independence against Britain.

 

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