CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 hours ago, cannuck said: I am not condoning either side's actions, but have to observe that you misspoke about "defenseless people". Palestinians elected Hamas, Hamas is a military organization and their ELECTED political leaders - who therefore are responsible to defend Gaza. Instead they are hiding behind the skirts of women and nurseries of children and continuing to attack Israel rather than defend Gaza. If they had any balls they would be standing along the border. The sole, simple and very sad fact is that if you are going to start (or escalate) a war, you had better be prepared to finish it. My friend, election means nothing in those parts of the world. There are many dictatorships. They manipulate election results the way they want. Even in democracies like America where president really gets elected by majority vote, is it right to say that the Vietnamese have the right to bomb innocent civilians in American cities because American army committed crimes against Vietnamese civilians because they elected the President? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannuck Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: My friend, election means nothing in those parts of the world. There are many dictatorships. They manipulate election results the way they want. Even in democracies like America where president really gets elected by majority vote, is it right to say that the Vietnamese have the right to bomb innocent civilians in American cities because American army committed crimes against Vietnamese civilians because they elected the President? Being familiar with MENA I concede that "elections" are more of a show than reality - mostly because one the Ayatollah or their front group runs for office opposing them is likely to cost your life. I think I was quite clear that I do NOT condone the tactics of either side in this conflict, but pointing out the harsh reality that once you start a war you really need to be ready for the response coming from your declared enemy. What is a shame is that the problems with Palestine go back to the mess left by Rome in 136, England in 1917/47, the Ottoman empire before, UN in 1948, and so on. All of these things imposed upon Palestinians (including the Jews) by outside occupying forces. Sticking a mouse in a cage with a cat pretty much determines how things will end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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