Vancouver King Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Shoop, "Why would a minority under Harper govt be a disaster?" A disaster for the CPC as it will be seen to be in bed with the loathed Bloc. Electoral annihilation to follow by rejuvenated Liberal party. A disaster for the country due to a mandate of little legislative progress, just painful Commons maneuverings and;yet another unwanted election within 1-2 yrs. "Harper's stance on SSM is far from strict." Sorry , I disagree. His first headline of the campaign came from a new conference where he reiterated his conservative and controversial stand to revisit the SSM non-issue. The fact that he did this in full knowledge of the media flak it would generate tells you how important it is to him. "Closer ties to the US would help resolve disputes like softwood lumber ..." Today, America rewarded our NAFTA victories with an approx. reduction in duties of 50%. Total levies are adjusted to about 11% on softwood (now only about 50 million per month). Let's cozy up to the US when George Dubya is retired in Texas. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
sharkman Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 So this Moore guy (unfortunate name) is only 28? Good grief, he's at 12 years away from being an age most Canadians would vote for. Bring back Mulroney, even with his reduced physical capacity he could knock the stuffing out of Martin in a debate any freakin' day. I wonder when he'll announce his preferences for this election. Quote
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Say what you will but Moore will win again. I hope he does does the attempts of religious conservatives to unseat him. Quote
shoop Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 VK, Clearly you don't like Harper. There was a very good *strategic* reason to deal with the SSM issue when Harper did. It's called timing! By dealing with the issue when he did, it is behind him and he doesn't have to worry about it coming up at a less advantageous time. A free vote in the House of Commons would allow the voice of the majority of Canadians to be heard on the issue *IF* the Liberals and NDs truly treat it as a free vote. "Harper's stance on SSM is far from strict."Sorry , I disagree. His first headline of the campaign came from a new conference where he reiterated his conservative and controversial stand to revisit the SSM non-issue. The fact that he did this in full knowledge of the media flak it would generate tells you how important it is to him. "Closer ties to the US would help resolve disputes like softwood lumber ..." Today, America rewarded our NAFTA victories with an approx. reduction in duties of 50%. Total levies are adjusted to about 11% on softwood (now only about 50 million per month). Let's cozy up to the US when George Dubya is retired in Texas. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 My French is ok, but not great. Couldn't find joual in my dictionary? Do explain where his joual fits in. See the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joual Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Normy, After Jan.23 you'll have a lot more than the present 99 MP's in the house to pick from for Conservative leader.Wait til then before deciding who might be best. Poor Paul,who's going to replace him? Brison? ,Belinda(oh sorry,won't be available) how about....I really can't think of any candidates for Paul's job.You'll have to help me out with this. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
shoop Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Joual is wonderful? I work my butt off in class *not* to sound like that. A Western Canadian CPC MP who speaks slang-ridden French like that isn't helping himself with the Québec elite. Don't let anyone tell you anything else. If the candidate can't sell himself to the elite, he won't be able to get his message to the people. See the following:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joual <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote
tml12 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Normy,After Jan.23 you'll have a lot more than the present 99 MP's in the house to pick from for Conservative leader.Wait til then before deciding who might be best. Poor Paul,who's going to replace him? Brison? ,Belinda(oh sorry,won't be available) how about....I really can't think of any candidates for Paul's job.You'll have to help me out with this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I could see Belinda or Brison trying to run for Liberal leadership...who would I like best for Liberal leader post-Martin??? I dunno. I always like Martin Cauchon though... Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 So this Moore guy (unfortunate name) is only 28? Good grief, he's at 12 years away from being an age most Canadians would vote for. He's 29. He was first elected in 2000, making him at age 24, the youngest elected MP in the history of BC. Assuming he became party leader in 2006 and assuming an election two years after that, he'd be 32 when elected PM. Sure, it's unlikely that CPC would make him leader because in the next leadership race for CPC, unlike the last one, he'd be competing against some high quality candidates. I also think Chuck Strahl, were it not for health problems, might have made a fine leader but it's now a moot point. Quote
Vancouver King Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Clearly you don't like Harper. There was a very good *strategic* reason to deal with the SSM issue when Harper did. It's called timing! By dealing with the issue when he did, it is behind him and he doesn't have to worry about it coming up at a less advantageous time. _____________________________________________________________ Hard to say who I dislike more, Harper or Martin. At this point in the campaign I am the only person left in the country (this forum?) who is truly undecided. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Joual is wonderful? I work my butt off in class *not* to sound like that. A Western Canadian CPC MP who speaks slang-ridden French like that isn't helping himself with the Québec elite. Don't let anyone tell you anything else. If the candidate can't sell himself to the elite, he won't be able to get his message to the people. See the following:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joual <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really? It didn't hurt Chretien. He couldn't speak proper French or English. Quote
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Poor Paul,who's going to replace him? Brison? ,Belinda(oh sorry,won't be available) how about....I really can't think of any candidates for Paul's job.You'll have to help me out with this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> McKenna? Quote
tml12 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Poor Paul,who's going to replace him? Brison? ,Belinda(oh sorry,won't be available) how about....I really can't think of any candidates for Paul's job.You'll have to help me out with this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> McKenna? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Potentially or John Manley for that manner... As for joual, It is a working class francophone language...but I don't know why it would be spoken by a Western CPC MP. As for you Shoop, while I do not know what university you attend (you said class, I assume you meant university), but I am sure no one judges you based on being from Western Canada originally. Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 As for joual,It is a working class francophone language...but I don't know why it would be spoken by a Western CPC MP. I don't know either but I don't see why it would hurt him. Quote
Kiraly Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Remember this..... Who can save Canada? Harperman Quote
tml12 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Remember this.....Who can save Canada? Harperman <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good stuff... Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
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