sharkman Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 For example, Harper inexplicably and bizarrely this weekend in British Columbia let all of Canada know that he opposed the decriminalization of marijuana despite the fact that a majority of Canadians support decriminalization as do the Liberals... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is where I got the idea that you support the will of a majority on issues. It was like 3 posts ago. Please, I'm hoping you don't get into another convoluted redefinition explanation like you did with 'bible thumper'. (I refer to a follower of any religion when I say bible thumper, even if they don't actually believe in the bible, they may follow the Koran or some other book but if they thump it then...) Quote
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 For example, Harper inexplicably and bizarrely this weekend in British Columbia let all of Canada know that he opposed the decriminalization of marijuana despite the fact that a majority of Canadians support decriminalization as do the Liberals... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is where I got the idea that you support the will of a majority on issues. It was like 3 posts ago. Please, I'm hoping you don't get into another convoluted redefinition explanation like you did with 'bible thumper'. (I refer to a follower of any religion when I say bible thumper, even if they don't actually believe in the bible, they may follow the Koran or some other book but if they thump it then...) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You conveniently left out the rest of the quote. Not only do a majority of Canadians all agree but so do the Liberals, NDP, BQ and Greens. In any event, even if they did not, Harper's position on this issue is just plain irrational. Quote
sharkman Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Are you ignoring the fact that you feel if a majority of Canadians agree on something, it should be enacted? Because I'm willing to bet that gay marriage never would have passed last summer if the will of the people had been considered. I know, I know, we can only listen to them on their desire for drugs. Quote
Black Dog Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Are you ignoring the fact that you feel if a majority of Canadians agree on something, it should be enacted? Because I'm willing to bet that gay marriage never would have passed last summer if the will of the people had been considered. I know, I know, we can only listen to them on their desire for drugs. We live in a representative democracy: that is, the citizens elect individuals to make decisions on our behalf. In the last election, the majority of Canadians voted for parties that were in favour of same sex marriage. Now, obviously, few people probably based their vote on that single issue, but the positions were clear. Quote
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Are you ignoring the fact that you feel if a majority of Canadians agree on something, it should be enacted? I already answered that in my previous response. I said a majority supporting a position does not make that position rational. Harper's position on marijuana is irrational, even more so than his position on stripping away from lesbians their legal right to marry. And I have no idea what percentage of Canadians supported C-250 but I still think Harper blundered by opposing legislation which made gay bashing a crime. Quote
tml12 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 No doubt most of us are more tolerant than we were in the past. But Harper's runnihg for Prime Minister in 2006, not 1956. And the socially intolerant Harper is not just to the right of the Liberals, a middle-of-the-road party by Canadian standards today. He's also to the right of the NDP, BQ and Greens. By positioning himself to the right of all four of these parties, Harper guarantees that CPC remains unelectable. For example, Harper inexplicably and bizarrely this weekend in British Columbia let all of Canada know that he opposed the decriminalization of marijuana despite the fact that a majority of Canadians support decriminalization as do the Liberals, BQ, NDP and Greens. Sure, in the 50's Canadians didn't feel this way but Harper's running for office today. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What in the world does 'socially intolerant' mean to you? Because I don't think you mean anti-social, which is actually what it means. The CPC may be to the right of the other parties but notice how they poll above all the parties save one by 4 points( which is within the margin of error) Oh, so now you think that a policy needs to only be supported by a majority of Canadians to be right? Perhaps we should take another look at gay marriage. You are all over the map. You're like a socialistic green conservative! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Libertarian might be the best definition Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
southerncomfort Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Socially intolerant these days means not agreeing with a liberal Got this from somehwere don't remember where and kept it. quote: Intolerance is a beautiful thing: It is common these days to hear the word, 'tolerance' It is the politically correct buzzword of the day. However, many people will be surprised to discover that tolerance does not mean what it used to. In the past, tolerance has meant, "the acknowledgement of the views, beliefs and practices of others that differ from one's own" It includes the attempt to understand others, to respect them as human beings--without agreeing with their every thought or opinion. This is an honourable character trait, part of our Judeo-Christian heritage which has been taught and practiced in man sectors of American society. The new tolerance however, has gone much further. Today when the word tolerance is used, it means "viewing all values, beliefs, lifestyles and truth claims as equal"'' The new tolerance goes beyond respecting a person's rights; it requires praise and approval of that person's beliefs, values and lifestyle.... In fact, the new definition was designed to exclude Christians" Unquote Quote
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