jbander1A Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Posted January 19, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 2:04 PM, Hodad said: Eh, I support higher tax revenue, but I don't think this is a good approach. 90th percentile will start somewhere around $155K income. That's not exactly wealthy and those people aren't the problem. They are paying their taxes like everyone else, not hiding it in shelters. Whereas the very rich, the top 1% or so, can pay for clever accounting to shelter their income and are paying a pittance in proportion to income and wealth. I'd much rather see a simplified tax structure that eliminates most deductions. Even at 155,000 a year, pulling another 15,000 from them will hardly even be noticed. I was trying to make a point showing how little has to be done to get rid of annual deficits and ultimately pay off the deficit we have. There i so many places and taxes that are really made for the wealthy. Stock market cap gains should be taxed as income., Transfer of wealth at death from profits in the market , all cap gains lost ,it is zeroed out at the time of death. Which is a massive number Annually. The point is you can easily lower the tax rate to 5% for your 155,00.00 income and increase from that point on up to the highest interest . If there was real economical justice, it would be a 20% tax increase on the 1%. Which I will point out is still about half what it has been in the past. Quote
jbander1A Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Posted January 19, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 2:32 PM, Michael Hardner said: For you children born during the hellish reign of right-wing libertarian Obama... Reagan reduced the rates from 50% to 28%. I don't believe Obama did much with taxes. This is the other side of people complaining about the deficit - REVENUE. They usually claim we can't "afford" social programs but don't mention the favourable tax code changes since the 1960s or military spending. Shrug.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_tax_cuts#:~:text=The second tax cut (The,from 20% to 28%. From 70 to 28 Quote
jbander1A Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Posted January 19, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 3:01 PM, Contrarian said: There is one François Hollande, former president of France, with his government that went on a campaign to tax the richest people. People moved their money into Belgium, Holland, Switzerland. Some even moved there physically. It was a disaster economically. What is stopping rich people to leave the country and move somewhere with a tax heaven? This will create a reaction, I think. Also about François Hollande, even though he was the image of socialism: The barber who tended to French President François Hollande’s hair earned a monthly net income of €9,895, a French newspaper revealed, adding that the hairdresser is also committed to secrecy and needs to be available 24/7. https://www.france24.com/en/20160713-french-president-hollande-barber-makes-10000-euros-month-sworn-secrecy Well if they move their business totally or their headquarters , they can go to , mark them as the most hated for selling out their country for their bottom line. Also they can go and the American market , where they made all their massive wealth stays here not allowing their company to sell in this country anymore., screw them. Now how many will leave. Quote
jbander1A Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Posted January 19, 2023 Time to go to bed, I'm making to many mistakes. Another day. Quote
reason10 Posted January 19, 2023 Report Posted January 19, 2023 12 hours ago, jbander1A said: Garbage and what do you expect, this is from garbage man Rush the pile of shit Limberger. And you toads ENVY the Doctor of Democracy for making millions of dollars as a radio conservative. How many radio stations carry YOUR bullschitt? Quote
jbander1A Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, reason10 said: And you toads ENVY the Doctor of Democracy for making millions of dollars as a radio conservative. How many radio stations carry YOUR bullschitt? boring. Quote
reason10 Posted January 19, 2023 Report Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, jbander1A said: boring. To uneducated children, Rush was indeed boring. To MOST OF AMERICA, he was the best. Quote
Hodad Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 On 1/19/2023 at 2:16 PM, reason10 said: To uneducated children, Rush was indeed boring. To MOST OF AMERICA, he was the best. Again, blatantly false in the most obvious ways. Limbaugh's favorability ratings were even worse than Trump's. He occasionally dipped below 50% with Republicans, independents disliked him and Democrats reviled him. I get why you'd like him though. College dropout, drug addict, bigot, misogynist, and general purveyor of hate. Also, probably the first to figure out that you could motivate a base more with hatred of the other than with aspiration and optimism. Quite the legacy. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 10 hours ago, Hodad said: I get why you'd like him though. College dropout, drug addict, bigot, misogynist, and general purveyor of hate. You missed something: he was disloyal to america. He expressed on his program that he wanted it to fail, while Obama was president, so would make Obama look bad. So he wanted economic strife, people less wealthy than him to lose their jobs and be in trouble so it would help him personally. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
reason10 Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 12 hours ago, Hodad said: Again, blatantly false in the most obvious ways. Limbaugh's favorability ratings were even worse than Trump's. He occasionally dipped below 50% with Republicans, independents disliked him and Democrats reviled him. I get why you'd like him though. College dropout, drug addict, bigot, misogynist, and general purveyor of hate. Also, probably the first to figure out that you could motivate a base more with hatred of the other than with aspiration and optimism. Quite the legacy. You are a LIAR. Rush is responsible for ENDING the DemoNazi monopoly on public opinion. That's why you goose steppers hate him. He stood in the way of your new Concentration Camp models. 1 Quote
reason10 Posted January 21, 2023 Report Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: You missed something: he was disloyal to america. He expressed on his program that he wanted it to fail, while Obama was president, so would make Obama look bad. So he wanted economic strife, people less wealthy than him to lose their jobs and be in trouble so it would help him personally. Obama was bad for the country. His policies were bad. Rush wanted those policies to fail. That is being PATRIOTIC. And Obama wound up leaving a failing economy for Trump in the process, (while arming ISIS and giving Iran BILLIONS in cash for their nuclear program and funding of terrorism. https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-iran-terrorism/ https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-made-1-7-billion-transfer-to-iran-in-foreign-cash-treasury-says Obama's policies left a RECORD number of people out of work and in POVERTY https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/02/09/dont-be-fooled-the-obama-unemployment-rate-is-11/?sh=2fa26e3b6781 The trick is that when those 5 million are not counted as in the work force, they are not counted as unemployed either. They may desperately need and want jobs. They may be in poverty, as many undoubtedly are, with America suffering today more people in poverty than in the entire half century the Census Bureau has been counting poverty. But they are not even counted in that 8.3% unemployment rate that Obama and his media cheerleaders were so tirelessly celebrating last week. If they were counted, the unemployment rate today would be a far more realistic 11%, better reflecting the suffering in the real economy under Obamanomics. Just last month, while the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported finding 243,000 new jobs, they also reported in the same release that an additional 1.2 million workers had dropped out of the work force altogether, giving up hope under Obama. If labor force participation had remained the same in January, 2012 just as it was the month before in December, 2011, the unemployment rate would have risen to 8.7% in January rather than supposedly declining to 8.3% as reported. Maybe America wouldn't be in such dire straits if that ignorant TRAITOR failed. Quote
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