CITIZEN_2015 Posted July 20, 2022 Author Report Posted July 20, 2022 3 hours ago, cultsmash said: I myself believe that there is some sort of existence after death. I have never seen a ghost. But on a few occasions I have experienced unexplainable things. I have also seen and heard plenty of evidence on shows like "Ghost Adventures." Here is another point to the contrary. It concerns those who have died and came back to life. Some of them have claimed to have gotten a glimpse of the afterlife. For those who believe in the afterlife on those grounds, they are fooling themselves. You cant know what it is like to be dead until you're all the way dead. Also, I was watching on some program that according to medicine, at least in some cases, brain activity actually increases when you are close to death. That could very well explain the experiences some people claimed to have had when close to death. Then what is your reasons for believing that there is afterlife? The only possible evidence of afterlife is testimonies by those near death experiences other than that there is absolutely no evidence. 1 Quote
cultsmash Posted July 20, 2022 Report Posted July 20, 2022 19 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Then what is your reasons for believing that there is afterlife? The only possible evidence of afterlife is testimonies by those near death experiences other than that there is absolutely no evidence. As I said, I have experienced unexplainable things. The kinds of things a poltergeist might do. Also, it is true that anything can be faked. But over the years I have seen many shows about the paranormal. Such as "Ghost Adventures," "Paranormal: Caught on Camera," "The Unexplained," "Expedition Unknown," etc. On "The Unexplained," they will even have experts go over the footage to see if it was faked. (Which it sometimes is) Those shows have shown all the evidence you would need. Also, some people don't believe in UFO's. But on a few occasions I have seen them to a degree that there is absolutely no doubt that is what they were. And people have been seeing such things throughout human history. Quote
French Patriot Posted July 20, 2022 Report Posted July 20, 2022 29 minutes ago, cultsmash said: And people have been seeing such things throughout human history. People have been seeing Gods as well and look at the garbage Gods we have ended up with. It is always good to wonder about things that have no proof, but without real verifiable facts, it is stupid to believe in anything. I claim to have used telepathy twice. I would not believe even me, without a witness/victim to vouch for the truth of my claim. The world is strange but ghosts and poltergeists, etc., are a foolish notion. Would you hang around to push spoons around for a camera for a few hundred years? Of course not. Logic and reason trump imaginary/supernatural beliefs. Facts over fiction, please. Regards DL Quote
French Patriot Posted July 20, 2022 Report Posted July 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, cultsmash said: As I said, I have experienced unexplainable things. Please tell us your story. Regards DL Quote
cultsmash Posted July 20, 2022 Report Posted July 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, French Patriot said: People have been seeing Gods as well and look at the garbage Gods we have ended up with. It is always good to wonder about things that have no proof, but without real verifiable facts, it is stupid to believe in anything. I claim to have used telepathy twice. I would not believe even me, without a witness/victim to vouch for the truth of my claim. The world is strange but ghosts and poltergeists, etc., are a foolish notion. Would you hang around to push spoons around for a camera for a few hundred years? Of course not. Logic and reason trump imaginary/supernatural beliefs. Facts over fiction, please. Regards DL I saw what I saw. Believe it or not. You can also doubt that UFO's have been seen throughout history. But if they are around now, which I know from personal experience, there is no reason to doubt that they have been visiting the Earth for a very long time. Quote
cultsmash Posted July 20, 2022 Report Posted July 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, French Patriot said: Please tell us your story. Regards DL What's the point. Start watching the programs I mentioned. It is impossible for everything they show to be crap. Quote
French Patriot Posted July 20, 2022 Report Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, cultsmash said: I saw what I saw. Believe it or not. You can also doubt that UFO's have been seen throughout history. But if they are around now, which I know from personal experience, there is no reason to doubt that they have been visiting the Earth for a very long time. There are many reasons to doubt what has yet to be shown to be fact. I hope you are correct and that we can live up to whatever standard a space faring society would demand before mixing with anything vile. We vile earth people in this case. I had a thing featured at a UFO site on this issue. Link upon request. The possibility that we are the only life, is still a possibility, just as space travelers are. Regards DL Quote
French Patriot Posted July 20, 2022 Report Posted July 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, cultsmash said: What's the point. Start watching the programs I mentioned. It is impossible for everything they show to be crap. I am a great fan, but cannot agree with your conclusions. Even upon contact, I cannot get the forums you mention to speak of the Anunaky purse and cone. Like the religious caught in a lie, they run away. Regards DL Quote
cultsmash Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, French Patriot said: There are many reasons to doubt what has yet to be shown to be fact. I hope you are correct and that we can live up to whatever standard a space faring society would demand before mixing with anything vile. We vile earth people in this case. I had a thing featured at a UFO site on this issue. Link upon request. The possibility that we are the only life, is still a possibility, just as space travelers are. Regards DL I have better things to do than tell people lies. If I were inclined to do so in the first place. Which I'm not. When you see for yourself, then you'll believe it. Quote
cultsmash Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, French Patriot said: I am a great fan, but cannot agree with your conclusions. Even upon contact, I cannot get the forums you mention to speak of the Anunaky purse and cone. Like the religious caught in a lie, they run away. Regards DL What forums did I mention. Quote
French Patriot Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, cultsmash said: What forums did I mention. Your "programs" = My "forums". Just our use or terms. I was thinking of what I did with their social interaction sections and forums. Regards DL Edited July 21, 2022 by French Patriot Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted July 22, 2022 Author Report Posted July 22, 2022 God, Soul, afterlife, space travelers and time travelers (UFOs)....... are all unsolved mysteries. Nobody knows if they really exist or we humans created them in our minds or movies (you called them paranormal shows) 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 On 5/16/2022 at 8:41 PM, French Patriot said: The body creates the soul. You stupidly have a soul creating a body for itself. A soul would not have such a need. Break that logic trail or be seen as what you called me. Regards DL The body creates the soul? Boy are you ever in for a rude awakening. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 YES! Absolutely and whole-heartedly. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
French Patriot Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, Nationalist said: The body creates the soul? Boy are you ever in for a rude awakening. Tell us what kind of satanic soul would create the bodies in this link? Regards DL Quote
French Patriot Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Nationalist said: YES! Absolutely and whole-heartedly. You might want to reread as I think you went sideways on me. Regards DL Quote
Nationalist Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, French Patriot said: Tell us what kind of satanic soul would create the bodies in this link? Regards DL Freedom of choice...is can be a bitch. Interestingly though...something we call Karma, usually rears its head and levels the playing field some. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, French Patriot said: You might want to reread as I think you went sideways on me. Regards DL Just answering the original question...Yes...I do believe I and you and every living being...have a soul. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
French Patriot Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Freedom of choice...is can be a bitch. Interestingly though...something we call Karma, usually rears its head and levels the playing field some. IOW, you know you are out to lunch with your notion. Now you move from a souls plan to karma. Regards DL Quote
French Patriot Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Just answering the original question...Yes...I do believe I and you and every living being...have a soul. What is a soul? Perhaps if I show my thinking, it will prompt as good of a reply. Gnostic Jesus was questioned as to what sees the vision? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/maps/primary/mary.html The Saviour answered and said, 'He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind which [is] between the two - that is [what] sees the vision...' For where the mind is, there is the treasure. =================== Christianity does not quite agree, wording wise, with us. Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Our hearts just confirm that the vision is a treasure. Regards DL Quote
Nationalist Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, French Patriot said: IOW, you know you are out to lunch with your notion. Now you move from a souls plan to karma. Regards DL No...but I can excuse your ignorance. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, French Patriot said: What is a soul? Perhaps if I show my thinking, it will prompt as good of a reply. Gnostic Jesus was questioned as to what sees the vision? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/maps/primary/mary.html The Saviour answered and said, 'He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind which [is] between the two - that is [what] sees the vision...' For where the mind is, there is the treasure. =================== Christianity does not quite agree, wording wise, with us. Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Our hearts just confirm that the vision is a treasure. Regards DL Ahhh...I see where your problem lies. You think the religions are actually true. They are not. They are very political in nature and thus the construct of man's desire for power and control. Nothing more...nothing less. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
French Patriot Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: No...but I can excuse your ignorance. I pity you and yours. Regards DL Quote
French Patriot Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: You think the religions are actually true. I do not know what you mean by true. Thanks for the lying about what I think though. We lack mutual respect and close I Q's. Find someone at your level. Regards DL Edited July 25, 2022 by French Patriot Quote
Nationalist Posted July 25, 2022 Report Posted July 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, French Patriot said: I pity you and yours. Regards DL Don't. We're happy and healthy. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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