Martin to press Rice on guns

[Yaro]

Really, that’s interesting do you have any more details? I would love to be able to examine such a case because I have found the fact that Canadian and British disputes with the US have gone virtually unreported in the US and I always assumed that the reverse would be true but I couldn't remember any examples.

Canada is a net exporter of energy, including electricity to the US.

Ya, I found the article its a projection. I must have read it while I was tired, my bad.

[Guest eureka]

I am not sure where I saw this some time ago, I believe that Canada exports 70% of its oill production to the US and that energy trade is a 50/50 proposition. It was something like that.

What is significant, though, is that Canada can not unilaterally change either figure - downwards - because NAFTA controls them.

[Leafless]

eureka

You wrote- "Canada export 70% of it's oil."

Those fiqures are avilable in 'Canada Country Analysis Brief'.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/canada.htlml

Canada produces 3.1 million bbl/d and exports 2.1 million bbl/d.

[Montgomery Burns]

Yaro:

That’s a fine position to take, just don't ever pretend to have the moral high ground again.

I hope I won't be seeing any "No Blood for Oil" posts from you, then.

Not that I would expect you to know this but Canadians are on average among the worlds largest holders of fortune 500 stock. Canada as represented by Canadians does have many, many, MANY major corporations.

If you were aware of world affairs, you might wonder where is Canada's Intel? Where is Canada's Microsoft? Where is it's IBM? It's Dell? It's Applied Material? It's WalMart?

Unless you're talking about Tim Horton's and Canadian Tire...

Yes I am sure you have a very good view of what is in Canada's economic interest from your van down by the river. Not that I would expect you to even understand anything that Ed Clark says but the reason has focusing on the US is because (as every big league investor knows) large collapses like the one coming to the US are perfect opportunities for foreign investors to sweep in and buy up all sorts of goodies at rock bottom prices. Hell I know that when the US housing market collapses I will be investing millions if not tens of millions in US housing.

I will ignore your childish insult and ignore your "the US is collapsing" meme. I've been listening to that for years and yet the US continues to put more and more distance between Canada and Europe. I usually choose to ignore knee-jerk anti-Americanism - which is actually little more than insane jealousy - from Canadians.

Your claim of investing millions in US housing sounds like a nice fantasy, but you should have went for a homerun; you should've claimed you would invest BILLIONS in US housing.

I certainly won't defend some of the more ridiculous things that have happened in Canada but this mashed set of paragraphs displays with startling clarity the fact that you have no idea what your talking about.

Ahhh. Attack the "mishmash set of paragraph displays" and ignore the substance. I anxiously await your reply to what I wrote that was incorrect. Typical of the smug Canadian. Deny deny deny the lack of freedoms in this country. You don't even have the option of your own healthcare in this country.

I guess you missed the recent rulings on eminent domain,

A ruling by leftwing Democrat judges.

and the nature of CIA operations overseas.

Rumsfeld shook Saddam's hand 23 yrs ago!! The US trained the Taliban in the 80s (let's ignore the fact that the Taliban didn't come into existence until the mid 90s).

I understand that you love to insult Canada

Nay. Canadian arrogance? Aye.

and I really don't have a problem with you doing so, but again I am forced to ask why you don't do it from the US side of the border? Oh that’s right; they only want someone who actually has a useful skill set.

Just once. Just once I would like to see a Canadian argue against the US with resorting to ad hom attacks. Maybe sometime in my lifetime this will happen, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Sure if the WTO ruling had any relevance, but seeing as how the WTO only has relevance in disputes not covered by NAFTA its just another case of you blowing smoke out your ass.

More immature insults. That's 3 in one post. You trying to be the champ?

Typical Canadian leftie. Iran calls for the extermination of Israel and the response from the Candian left is: US bad. Softwood lumber. Bad bad bad.

Kinda reminds of when Bush gave that important speech about fighting Islamic Nazism and then 2 days later PMPM announces his most important issue:

The changing of the 2000 y/o definition of marriage.

That was so embarrassin and once agains made Canada look like a joke in the eyes of the international community.

I'm constantly amazed at how Canadians gleefully accept the WTO's findings that the Canada is a better country than the US when it comes to "quality of life", but when the WTO rules against Canada, you must ignore the WTO's findings.

Once again nobody brings together the non-consequential and the downright ludicrous like our beloved Mr. Burns. I tend to think that if you spent half as much energy on improving your life as you do on whining you might actually get somewhere but I doubt it.

Four ad hom attacks in one post. Yaro really wants to be the champion.

I'm trying Greg. I didn't reply to any of the 4 insults by Yaro.

Indeed, I find it amusing. When one has no intellectual argument, one resorts to ad hom attacks.

[PocketRocket]

Indeed, I find it amusing.  When one has no intellectual argument, one resorts to ad hom attacks.

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[Yaro]

I hope I won't be seeing any "No Blood for Oil" posts from you, then.

Not that I have ever made such a statement, but I am not the one that abandoned the high ground so I get to if I want to. Its nice being morally superior, the view is great...

If you were aware of world affairs, you might wonder where is Canada's Intel? Where is Canada's Microsoft? Where is it's IBM? It's Dell? It's Applied Material? It's WalMart?

Unless you're talking about Tim Horton's and Canadian Tire...

And where exactly is America's Intel? America's Microsoft? America's IBM? Its Walmart? Those are all multinationals, just because there headquarters are for the time being in the US doesn't mean that they are American, any investor anywhere can own any of them to any extent. Canadians own a great deal of all of those companies.

I will ignore your childish insult and ignore your "the US is collapsing" meme. I've been listening to that for years and yet the US continues to put more and more distance between Canada and Europe. I usually choose to ignore knee-jerk anti-Americanism - which is actually little more than insane jealousy - from Canadians.

Your claim of investing millions in US housing sounds like a nice fantasy, but you should have went for a homerun; you should've claimed you would invest BILLIONS in US housing.

Ignore it all you want, your the one who shows a significant lack of understand of basic principles of business and economics. There is no measure by which the US is leaving either Canada or Europe, even the ultra optimists in your camp are admitting that there looking at a massive recession... But that’s ok it’s not like you have ever made a point on economics that could be successfully argued, for that you would have to actually make a point.

Ahhh. Attack the "mishmash set of paragraph displays" and ignore the substance. I anxiously await your reply to what I wrote that was incorrect. Typical of the smug Canadian. Deny deny deny the lack of freedoms in this country. You don't even have the option of your own healthcare in this country.

I don't deny the problems in my country actually, I examine them with a critical eye on an ongoing basis-and this may surprise you that we agree about the existence of substantial problems in our country. The difference between you and I is that I actually know something about the US, have lived and spent a great deal of time there and am aware of the substantial problems they have (allot more then we have right now). You on the other hand are clearly so out of your mind with rage at your own inability to succeed that trying to find something upon which to blame it has become a full time job. Of course if you read more and ranted less you would probably at least be able to point the finger in the right direction because you and people who more successfully espouse your primitive philosophies are your own worst enemies.

A ruling by leftwing Democrat judges.

Once again you embarrass yourself; the USSC is universally considered a right leaning court. There is exactly 1 left leaning and 1 centrist judge and the centrist is about to leave. Of course if you were a little smarter you would have realized that the decision was strictly constitutional, the problem wasn't with the courts it was with the politicians who didn't immediately rush in to fix the problem with the gaping hole in the constitution. But to understand that you would have to understand the role of the judiciary, and that has in the past simply proved too much for you.

Rumsfeld shook Saddam's hand 23 yrs ago!! The US trained the Taliban in the 80s (let's ignore the fact that the Taliban didn't come into existence until the mid 90s).

The Fundamentalists who created the Taliban are the same group who occupied a temple in Mecca in 1979, they are the same group who declared dozens of holy wars against Saddam, and they are the same group that now resides with virtual impunity in Pakistan. The Taliban were one of a network of organizations who had as there sole purpose the borderless unification of the Muslim world, the same organization that has been active for almost 100 years.

As for the Neocon's attachments to Saddam, well believe what you will they were there in their original Reaganist form, they were there until Bush Sr realized what a group of psychopaths they were and they are there now. In Politics there are no friends just allies that can shift and change at a moments notice, for example how Bin Laden was a great ally...

I could go on, but I will just give you some light reading on the topic and move on.

Killing Hope

Ghost Wars

Each written by a very well respected Washington insider.

Just once. Just once I would like to see a Canadian argue against the US with resorting to ad hom attacks. Maybe sometime in my lifetime this will happen, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Why would I argue against the US? I argue facts not for or against anything; you seem to be incapable of separating the US from specific points as they relate to the US. What exactly would you like to see me argue against? US military intervention? US economic tactics? US political hackery? What exactly?

Typical Canadian leftie. Iran calls for the extermination of Israel and the response from the Candian left is: US bad. Softwood lumber. Bad bad bad.

Yup you just love to thump your head against a wall don't you? So who exactly said that Iran calling for the extermination of Israel was good again? And who again blamed it on the US? Oh that’s right only in your continuing and impressive game of self delusion.

As for your devastating argument on softwood, well na na na na

Kinda reminds of when Bush gave that important speech about fighting Islamic Nazism and then 2 days later PMPM announces his most important issue:

Do you even know what Nazism is? There can, by definition, never be Islamic Nazism, and if you’re talking about the Islamic fundamentalist problems that have been blown so far out of proportion that they would be the laughing stock of the planet if it weren't so sad how many people grip them so tightly well then I am forced to wonder why you don't live in cave, there nice and safe I hear, and you should definitly not drive because thats thousands of times more dangerous. Why can't people get over the fact that Islamic fundamentalists aren't a serious threat to anyone?

The changing of the 2000 y/o definition of marriage.

Well when you have other people dealing with imaginary issues like Islamic Nazism (good god that’s stupid), you have to fill your time with whatever is actually an issue.

That was so embarrassin and once agains made Canada look like a joke in the eyes of the international community.

Canada is a joke in the eyes of the international community? What group of people on the entire planet has a higher opinion of the US then they do of Canada? I will tell you which one, NONE, ZERO, ZILCH. Not only that the US isn't even in the same league as we are on this point.

I'm constantly amazed at how Canadians gleefully accept the WTO's findings that the Canada is a better country than the US when it comes to "quality of life", but when the WTO rules against Canada, you must ignore the WTO's findings.

Of course the WTO has never said that Canada was a better place to live then the US that was the UN. But I will digress for a moment, you see within the purview of the WTO absent the NAFTA they will rule according to there rules. There decision does mean something, if and only if the rules that we agreed to with the US doesn't exist.

Let me try and break this down for the slow with an example.

There are minimum employment standards where you live, there is a minimum you can get paid there is a maximum you can be worked, certain rules which govern the relationship possible between you and your employer. Now lets say that you had some skill that meant that you could reasonably demand more for your time then the average worker and so you agree to a contract with a company, this contract gives you certain rights and benefits, more pay, better vacation etc...

Now some time goes by everything is operating according to the agreement and there are no problems. Then all of a sudden your employer tells you that you will now be operating under the basic law which governs your rights, so your pay goes down, your vacation disappears etc... But he also says to you that you can't leave because the contract is still binding. You see, life is allot more complicated then your simple minded WTO = NAFTA weighting.

Four ad hom attacks in one post. Yaro really wants to be the champion.

I'm trying Greg. I didn't reply to any of the 4 insults by Yaro.

Indeed, I find it amusing. When one has no intellectual argument, one resorts to ad hom attacks.

You know what might help you? Actually making a point, instead of the constant blah blah blah droning that is your trademark. You know actually coming up with something that has some reasonable chance of standing up in a debate? That would be novel.