The return of Svend Robinson

[newbie]

]I don't buy the mental illness excuse and his use of it undermines the thousands of people who really have these debilitating conditions...

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Are you a psychiatrist? This is one of the reasons why there is still a stigma in this country regarding people with mental illness.

[newbie]

Svend does not deserve a second chance.

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People who live in glass houses......

Let he who is without sin.....

[PocketRocket]

When you can't make it as a lawyer, go into politics.

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HAHAHA!!!!!!

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There's an old saying that there are 2 types of criminals, those who are unsuccesful, and lawyers.

I guess politicians make three.

On a related note, I heard something on the news the other day about the return of Svend......by way of explanation, he said he stole the ring in "a moment of supreme irrationality" (default setting for a politician), and that he is a manic depressive, and suffers from bipolar disorder.

Bipolar=Schizophrenic.

Like we need more schizo's in parliament.

[Argus]

He did not have a mental illness. Nor does he seem to be a thief or a criminal. He did what tens of thousands do every year when stress gets on top of them.

Steal jewellery?!

[Yodeler]

He did not have a mental illness. Nor does he seem to be a thief or a criminal. He did what tens of thousands do every year when stress gets on top of them.

Steal jewellery?!

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"It can't be explained but it is common and done by many decent, law abiding people." - eureka

[Black Dog]

He is demonstrably and unquestionably both a thief and a criminal.

The question is: is this an advantage or disadvantage for serving in the Commons?

A thief who returned his ill-gotten gains and a criminal without a record.

Tempest, meet teapot.

[fellowtraveller]

Did Mr. Robinson steal an item of significant value? Why yes, he did.

Was he convicted of this crime? Why yes, he was.

Will the usual apologists blow off these facts glibly? Why, yes they will.

[Yodeler]

He is demonstrably and unquestionably both a thief and a criminal.

The question is: is this an advantage or disadvantage for serving in the Commons?

A thief who returned his ill-gotten gains and a criminal without a record.

Tempest, meet teapot.

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Had he not returned his ill-gotten gains after the police knocked on his door several times, no crocodile tears would have helped him avoid a criminal record and the world would be a better place today.

[Black Dog]

Did Mr. Robinson steal an item of significant value? Why yes, he did.

Was he convicted of this crime? Why yes, he was.

Will the usual apologists blow off these facts glibly? Why, yes they will.

He stole a ring. he admitted to stealing it. He turned it over and himself in. He pled guilty, and was given a conditional discharge. He was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service, but will not have a criminal record, a sentence the Crown described as "appropriate". Now, if the voters decide that whole business is important enough to make him a bad choice for MP, they can cast their ballots accordingly. And while I may personally not see the wisdom in making a comeback so soon after stepping down, I really don't see what the big frigging deal is.

I'll say this much, though: were Svend, say, a straight membe rof the Conservative party, you'd not be hearing a peep from the usual suspects here about his behaviour.

[newbie]

I'll say this much, though: were Svend, say, a straight membe rof the Conservative party, you'd not be hearing a peep from the usual suspects here about his behaviour.

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V ery good point BD.

[shoop]

Did Mr. Robinson steal an item of significant value? Why yes, he did.

Was he convicted of this crime? Why yes, he was.

Will the usual apologists blow off these facts glibly? Why, yes they will.

I'll say this much, though: were Svend, say, a straight membe rof the Conservative party, you'd not be hearing a peep from the usual suspects here about his behaviour.

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Because he wouldn't be running again for the party. Period.

Svend wouldn't be allowed to run as a Conservative candidate. Any other "hidden agenda" post is sad and pathetic. Nice try though....

[Riverwind]

Because he wouldn't be running again for the party. Period.

Actualy, you can back that statement up shoop: former Saskatchewan premier Grant Devine wanted to run for the CPC but was blocked because of his involvement in the corruption scandal in the Saskatchewan gov't.

[Leader Circle]

Did Mr. Robinson steal an item of significant value? Why yes, he did.

Was he convicted of this crime? Why yes, he was.

Will the usual apologists blow off these facts glibly? Why, yes they will.

He stole a ring. he admitted to stealing it. He turned it over and himself in. He pled guilty, and was given a conditional discharge. He was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service, but will not have a criminal record, a sentence the Crown described as "appropriate". Now, if the voters decide that whole business is important enough to make him a bad choice for MP, they can cast their ballots accordingly. And while I may personally not see the wisdom in making a comeback so soon after stepping down, I really don't see what the big frigging deal is.

I'll say this much, though: were Svend, say, a straight membe rof the Conservative party, you'd not be hearing a peep from the usual suspects here about his behaviour.

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You wouldn't have to wait for us to comment on that were he a Conservative hopeful, because it would be SPLATTERED all over the news every 15 minutes!!!

Instead, I had to hear of this from here, hardly a word on the news, except...... "The heartfelt return of a sorrowful, abused, downtrodden, homosexual and his trials and tribulations of being a gay man in such a critical country, trying to make his way in the political world!" This is not actually a news headline, but I had you all thinking!!!!

If it were a Conservative MP, the headline would be: "Conservative Crook back trying to steal from Canada again!"

Good ole unbiased media we have!

[Guest eureka]

Does your flesh creep a little, Balck Dog, when you read these pious hypocrites? Mine does.

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Does your flesh creep a little, Balck Dog, when you read these pious hypocrites? Mine does.

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Woo hoo! Complete and utter victory.

eureka only resorts to personal attacks and avoids the subject all together when his microscopic mind cannot admit defeat

[Black Dog]

Because he wouldn't be running again for the party. Period.

Svend wouldn't be allowed to run as a Conservative candidate. Any other "hidden agenda" post is sad and pathetic. Nice try though....

Do tell: why not? Here's a candidate with a winning record, experience in the House, no criminal record, and a good shot at unseating a government member: and you're telling me the Cons would turn their nose up? I call B.S.

You wouldn't have to wait for us to comment on that were he a Conservative hopeful, because it would be SPLATTERED all over the news every 15 minutes!!!

Instead, I had to hear of this from here, hardly a word on the news, except...... "The heartfelt return of a sorrowful, abused, downtrodden, homosexual and his trials and tribulations of being a gay man in such a critical country, trying to make his way in the political world!" This is not actually a news headline, but I had you all thinking!!!!

If it were a Conservative MP, the headline would be: "Conservative Crook back trying to steal from Canada again!"

Good ole unbiased media we have!

Missing the point much? The media wasn't the question: I was talking about Conservative partisans.

So, in response to my hypothetical "how would conservatives react if the situation was reveresed" we have one case of denial and one case of subject changing.

[fellowtraveller]

Did Mr. Robinson steal an item of significant value? Why yes, he did.

Was he convicted of this crime? Why yes, he was.

Will the usual apologists blow off these facts glibly? Why, yes they will.

He stole a ring. he admitted to stealing it. He turned it over and himself in. He pled guilty, and was given a conditional discharge. He was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service, but will not have a criminal record, a sentence the Crown described as "appropriate". Now, if the voters decide that whole business is important enough to make him a bad choice for MP, they can cast their ballots accordingly. And while I may personally not see the wisdom in making a comeback so soon after stepping down, I really don't see what the big frigging deal is.

I'll say this much, though: were Svend, say, a straight membe rof the Conservative party, you'd not be hearing a peep from the usual suspects here about his behaviour.

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Oh, so it IS more than 'tempest''teapot'???

Now you have more to say?

And you're wrong about criticism of Tory wrongdoings. They just have not had the opportunity to squeeze into the headlines past the near-daily Liberal scandals and now Svend again.

[Black Dog]

Oh, so it IS more than 'tempest''teapot'???

No. It's a lot of fuss over something of very little significance. Ultimately, Robinson's decision will be judged by the voters.

Now you have more to say?

Always!

And you're wrong about criticism of Tory wrongdoings. They just have not had the opportunity to squeeze into the headlines past the near-daily Liberal scandals and now Svend again.

Ah so you're saying there has been plenty of Tory wrongdoing that has escaped the attention of the press, then?

Tell you what, though: instead of blaming the press (who, if they were as biased as some contend, probably wouldn't pass up the opportunity to highlight dissent within the CPC ranks), why don't you show me some examples of this internal criticism?

Finally, I should point out that there's been many NDPers to whom I've spoken to who disagree with Robinson's decision to return. I agree that the timing is lousy from a PR standpoint, but believe the possibility of dumping a Liberal is too good to pass up, especially over a dead issue.

[Guest eureka]

It would seem, shoop, that Black Dog needs no help.

[Yodeler]

Does your flesh creep a little, Balck Dog, when you read these pious hypocrites? Mine does.

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Feeling a little stressed out today, Eureka?

There's this men's boutique and they carry lot's of Josph Abboud.

I LOVE Abboud stuff.

I'm 34 waisted and like my tops loose, XXL!

I pay 17% on the value.

[Yodeler]

Does your flesh creep a little, Balck Dog, when you read these pious hypocrites? Mine does.

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Feeling a little stressed out today, Eureka?

There's this men's boutique and they carry lot's of Josph Abboud.

I LOVE Abboud stuff.

I'm 34 waisted and like my tops loose, XXL!

I pay 17% on the value.

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Gee I'm sorry, Eureka, seems like your defence of Svend, saying ......

"He did not have a mental illness. Nor does he seem to be a thief or a criminal. He did what tens of thousands do every year when stress gets on top of them."

...... gave Greg, Fleabag and that lawyer guy the same idea I had.

At least I didn't stoop so low as to try to stress you out just to get my Abboud sooner.

Not that I'm not grateful to them for stressing you out in the 'Harper=Problem' thread ..... they are doing such a great job, I may get a full wardrobe out of it.

I wonder what's on their shopping list.

[err]

Because he wouldn't be running again for the party. Period.

Svend wouldn't be allowed to run as a Conservative candidate.

They aint gonna have no homos runnin fer them... no way boy... In fact, when we get in, we're gonna put in a law that will put those fruitcakes... um, ... Like the abortions thing, we're not gonna do nothin... before we get in anyways... We only like decent folk in the Conservative party...

[Guest eureka]

What on earth are you trying to say, Yodeler. Spit it out! I don't run to Greg. Are you trying to controvert something I wrote or are just in your usual time between semi-lucid moments?

[Yodeler]

What on earth are you trying to say, Yodeler. Spit it out!

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You DO realize that there are lots of stressed out people from whom one can custom order, don't you?

I kind of knew that this wouldn't be you .... I was just joking with you.

Besides, ever since I discovered the Goodwill stores, where one can score a brand new Joseph Abboud for US$1.29 on a good day, .... I no longer have any NEED for people like you.

[Black Dog]

What on earth are you trying to say, Yodeler. Spit it out!

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You DO realize that there are lots of stressed out people from whom one can custom order, don't you?

I kind of knew that this wouldn't be you .... I was just joking with you.

Besides, ever since I discovered the Goodwill stores, where one can score a brand new Joseph Abboud for US$1.29 on a good day, .... I no longer have any NEED for people like you.

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Shut up, Yodeler.