Does Al Qaeda Exist?

[Durgan]

If Al Qaeda exists it has to be the most astonishing fighting body the world has ever seem. Food for thought.

Durgan.

http://acequest.notlong.com

If Al Qaeda was such a well-organised terror group, it’s supposed to have numerous cells on the soil of its foremost enemy, the United States- There has never been a single domestic terror cell captured since Bush has been in office! Also most of the terror suspects the U.S. arrested in the immediate aftermath of Sep. 11 attacks haven’t been charged with crimes in anyway associated with terrorism.

"Al Qaeda", if it really existed to anywhere near the extent that we have been told then there would have been another attack on the U.S. But unfortunately, the information we receive comes from two sides that both have great benefit in exaggerating Al Qaeda threat: tapes by the group’s members and the military and intelligence agencies that have great interest in maintaining the facade of an extremely dangerous terror cell.

Extracts from the article.

[Shady]

There has never been a single domestic terror cell captured since Bush has been in office!

That's factually incorrect.

Fourth guilty plea in Buffalo terror case

BUFFALO, New York (CNN) -- The fourth of six Yemeni-American men accused of attending an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan pleaded guilty Tuesday to terrorism-related charges.

CNN

'Paintball Terrorists' Convicted of Conspiracy

ALEXANDRIA, Va. — Three American Muslims accused of using paintball games to train for holy war were found guilty of conspiracy charges on Thursday.

FoxNews

[Durgan]

There has never been a single domestic terror cell captured since Bush has been in office!

That's factually incorrect.

Fourth guilty plea in Buffalo terror case

BUFFALO, New York (CNN) -- The fourth of six Yemeni-American men accused of attending an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan pleaded guilty Tuesday to terrorism-related charges.

CNN

'Paintball Terrorists' Convicted of Conspiracy

ALEXANDRIA, Va. — Three American Muslims accused of using paintball games to train for holy war were found guilty of conspiracy charges on Thursday.

FoxNews

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Let's bring focus on what is preached in the Mosques. That is where we will find the roots of terrorism.

Durgan.

[Durgan]

There has never been a single domestic terror cell captured since Bush has been in office!

That's factually incorrect.

Fourth guilty plea in Buffalo terror case

BUFFALO, New York (CNN) -- The fourth of six Yemeni-American men accused of attending an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan pleaded guilty Tuesday to terrorism-related charges.

CNN

'Paintball Terrorists' Convicted of Conspiracy

ALEXANDRIA, Va. — Three American Muslims accused of using paintball games to train for holy war were found guilty of conspiracy charges on Thursday.

FoxNews

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What are the radicals preaching in the mosques?

Everything that happens in the US is ome type of conspiracy acccording to the somebody.

Bullshit.

There are too many smart people in the US Senate and House to accept whitewashes.

Al Quaeda is probably believed to be true by the powers to be, or are. The establishment can focus on an enemy that they can't find. Al Quaeda probably started the terrorism, but it is the message preached in the Mosques that keep it alive.

I say it more likely stems from the hatred that is preached in the Mosques throughout the country, and certainly in the Arab Moslem countries. Look there for such fanaticism, that brainwahed people will blow themselves up with as many innoncent people as possible.

A six week exposure will not convince a person to strap a bomb to themselves and kill innoncent people. It takes constant propaganda and reinforcment fueled by religious fervour to make such a person. Look to the Mosques, sorry folks that is reality.

Durgan

[theloniusfleabag]

Dear Durgan,

from... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

Although "al-Qaeda" is the name of the organization used in popular culture, the organization rarely uses the name to refer to itself. In formal communications Bin Laden has called the organization the International Front for Jihad against the Jews and Crusaders. Indeed the use of the name "al-Qaeda" dates from early 2001, when the American government decided to prosecute Bin Laden in his absence and had to use anti-Mafia laws that required the existence of a named criminal organisation. Bin Laden himself said in 2001, "We used to call the training camp al-Qaeda ["the base"]. And the name stayed." [2].

I am generally tentative of accepting info from Wikipedia, but I have heard this information eslewhere.

There are too many smart people in the US Senate and House to accept whitewashes.

Bunk. Certainly there are some, but all they need to accept is that the 'whitewashes serve American interests'.

If Al Qaeda was such a well-organised terror group, it’s supposed to have numerous cells on the soil of its foremost enemy, the United States- There has never been a single domestic terror cell captured since Bush has been in office!

They were well organized enough to pull off 9/11...no simple feat. however, I agree that the threat is exaggerated, they need a 'boogerman' to justify their vast military after the end of the 'cold war'..

I say it more likely stems from the hatred that is preached in the Mosques throughout the country, and certainly in the Arab Moslem countries.

This is merely stating the obvious, the real problem is 'what can be done'? More precisely, what can be done without 'blanket policies' that discriminate against, or worse, seem to attack Islam as a whole?

[Black Dog]

There has never been a single domestic terror cell captured since Bush has been in office!

That's factually incorrect.

Fourth guilty plea in Buffalo terror case

BUFFALO, New York (CNN) -- The fourth of six Yemeni-American men accused of attending an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan pleaded guilty Tuesday to terrorism-related charges.

CNN

'Paintball Terrorists' Convicted of Conspiracy

ALEXANDRIA, Va. — Three American Muslims accused of using paintball games to train for holy war were found guilty of conspiracy charges on Thursday.

FoxNews

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First article:

Prosecutors suggest the Lackawanna Six, also known as the Buffalo Six, might have constituted a so-called sleeper cell, possibly waiting for orders to carry out some future attack in the United States, though they concede there was no evidence of any such plan.

Re: second article:

According to court records, Khan, 32, and Chapman, 31, who received sentences of life and 85 years respectively, were convicted of conspiracy and weapons charges, largely in connection with military training they received in Pakistan with Lashkar-e-Taiba (LET), a militant Muslim group committed to driving India out of Kashmir.

The government confirmed Chapman’s assertion that he left LET immediately after the September 11 attacks, which led Brinkema to dismiss the government’s most serious charge: that Chapman planned to fight against US troops in Afghanistan.

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Who else? Bush has claimed "the United States and our partners have disrupted at least 10 serious Al Qaida terrorist plots since September the 11th, including three Al Qaida plots to attack inside the United States."

So far, we've seen the above, plus Jose Padilla (who has not been charged with any crime or permitted to talk to a lawyer since his detention in 2002) and Iyman Faris, who pleaded guilty in June 2003 to two felony charges connected to a plot to destroy the Brooklyn Bridge, a plot U.S. officials admitted that Faris had abandoned because he deemed it unlikely to succeed.

None of these cases have the hallmark of a well-cordinated, capable terrorist organization. I think it's safe to say that the threat of Al Qaeda has been greatly exaggerated. No, the term itself has become something of a catch all, a "brand name" used to label any act of terrorism

Al Quaeda is probably believed to be true by the powers to be, or are. The establishment can focus on an enemy that they can't find. Al Quaeda probably started the terrorism, but it is the message preached in the Mosques that keep it alive.

I think you have it backwards. Al Qaeda is a product of the radical Islamic schools that sprouted up in Pakistan during the 1980's as training grounds for the anti-Communist mujahideen fighters. Radical Islam itsself filled the niche previously occupied by secular Arab nationalism, a ideaology virtually stamped out by the west during the '60s and '70s through reflexive support of Israel and dictators like the Shah.

[Shady]

I think it's safe to say that the threat of Al Qaeda has been greatly exaggerated

Well, that may be your opinion, but does that mean Al Qaeda doesn't exist? Oh, and tell the people of London, Madrid, and most recently Bali, that the threat of Al Qaeda has been greatly exaggerated. Maybe you can explain it to them while they're attending their family's funerals.

[Black Dog]

Well, that may be your opinion, but does that mean Al Qaeda doesn't exist? Oh, and tell the people of London, Madrid, and most recently Bali, that the threat of Al Qaeda has been greatly exaggerated. Maybe you can explain it to them while they're attending their family's funerals.

Well, what does one mean by exist? The contention of the article above is that "Al Qaeda" has become a euphemistic umbrella classification: the most recognized name brand: the "Kleenex" of terrorist organizations. If Al Qaeda is nothing more than Osama bin Laden and a small number of associates, then the threat it poses cannot be significant. That's no to say there's no terrorist threat. There individuals and local terrorist organizations that pose a threat to individuals, but not all Islamic terrorism the work of this shadowy group of evil masterminds.