Border Services lacks resources to deport failed refugees

[Argus]

CBSA has basically admitted that there isn't a lot they can do about 'refugees' who simply don't leave when they're found to not be actual refugees. They don't have the manpower.

For those asylum seekers that know that they are not going to be able to reach the stage that their claim will be granted in Canada, or they know [that] they have a criminal history, the concern is they may disappear,” Jean-Pierre Fortin, president of the Customs and Immigration Union, told The West Block’s Mercedes Stephenson.

“The people who do check them within CBSA, it’s a very small group [called] inland enforcement officers.”

Fortin is calling for the number of officers in this group to be doubled, at the least.

“We certainly don’t have the resources to track them down and to deport them,” he said in an interview at Roxham Road.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5746288/cbsa-officers-more-resources-failed-asylum-claimants-union/

[Moonlight Graham]

Nice to know our government is incompetent in yet another area.

[QuebecOverCanada]

'Failed' refugees?

Fake refugees. They came in our country illegally. Send them back by plane, and that's it. Bar them from entering Canada ever again since they tried to commit fraud by coming here illegally under a false pretense. 

And deport them all in big groups, and even pay them the first class tickets if none regular tickets are available. They must go back though. It's cheaper to buy a one way plane ticket than to pay for their welfare.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

'Failed' refugees?

Fake refugees. They came in our country illegally. Send them back by plane, and that's it.

Land if you feel you must...

[QuebecOverCanada]

3 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Land if you feel you must...

Sure.

You can also commit any crime you want. But just because you think you have the right to do so, you are not absolved.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Sure.

You can also commit any crime you want. But just because you think you have the right to do so, you are not absolved.

Ah.  Okay.  I wasn't going to, but now I know I won't be absolved I'm really not going to.

What does that have to do with my comment?

[QuebecOverCanada]

1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

Ah.  Okay.  I wasn't going to, but now I know I won't be absolved I'm really not going to.

What does that have to do with my comment?

Maybe I didn't get your previous message due to my French brain frying when doing too much English in a day. What did you mean in your first post?

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Maybe I didn't get your previous message due to my French brain frying when doing too much English in a day. What did you mean in your first post?

I meant landing was optional.  Slowing down and aiming for a haystack or something similar should be sufficient.

It was a joke, of course.  I'm not actually advocating throwing deportees out of a moving aircraft.

Unless they're really in a hurry. 

[QuebecOverCanada]

4 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I meant landing was optional.  Slowing down and aiming for a haystack or something similar should be sufficient.

It was a joke, of course.  I'm not actually advocating throwing deportees out of a moving aircraft.

Unless they're really in a hurry. 

Oh well you're very edgy 

What I thought you meant that 'Land if you feel you must', as 'People may land wherever they want if they feel that they have to'. (Land in whatever country basically)

Edited August 11, 2019 by QuebecOverCanada

[Guest]

1 minute ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Oh well you're very edgy 

What I thought you meant that 'Land if you feel you must', as 'People may land wherever they want if they feel that they have to'. (Land in whatever country basically)

You''ll note I abridged your post to reference the plane comment only.  That should have given it away.

[QuebecOverCanada]

39 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

You''ll note I abridged your post to reference the plane comment only.  That should have given it away.

I realize that you have a dark humor, which may very well be used against you, which gives you extra laughs I guess. But sometimes it confuses people man

[Argus]

Border crossings up again, heading for an all time high. There just hasn't been much publicity because it seems that most of the mainstream media now finds the subject uncomfortable.

Canadians could be forgiven for believing the crisis has been resolved. But the opposite is true. In the first six months of 2019, 26,860 people entered Canada illegally or under false pretenses to make asylum claims.

That number is higher than the first half of 2018, when Canada received 25,225 claims, and the first half of 2017 when 18,445 claims were filed. It’s more than the total number of claims in 2016: 23,870.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-illegal-border-crossings-in-canada-yes-its-still-happening

Edited August 12, 2019 by Argus

[QuebecOverCanada]

19 minutes ago, Argus said:

Border crossings up again, heading for an all time high. There just hasn't been much publicity because it seems that most of the mainstream media now finds the subject uncomfortable.

Canadians could be forgiven for believing the crisis has been resolved. But the opposite is true. In the first six months of 2019, 26,860 people entered Canada illegally or under false pretenses to make asylum claims.

That number is higher than the first half of 2018, when Canada received 25,225 claims, and the first half of 2017 when 18,445 claims were filed. It’s more than the total number of claims in 2016: 23,870.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-illegal-border-crossings-in-canada-yes-its-still-happening

This is government funded, with security guard firm Commissionaires getting all the contracts at the border. This firm gets a lot of money from this influx of illegals. They have employees getting 60h/week.

https://www.commissionaires.ca/en/national/business

[Rue]

On 8/11/2019 at 5:26 PM, QuebecOverCanada said:

'Failed' refugees?

Fake refugees. They came in our country illegally. Send them back by plane, and that's it. Bar them from entering Canada ever again since they tried to commit fraud by coming here illegally under a false pretense. 

And deport them all in big groups, and even pay them the first class tickets if none regular tickets are available. They must go back though. It's cheaper to buy a one way plane ticket than to pay for their welfare.

Slow down,. Even if they did the country on the other end won't let them off the plane. That is part of the problem.

[Rue]

On 8/11/2019 at 8:29 PM, QuebecOverCanada said:

This is government funded, with security guard firm Commissionaires getting all the contracts at the border. This firm gets a lot of money from this influx of illegals. They have employees getting 60h/week.

https://www.commissionaires.ca/en/national/business

Who are those employees?  By the way if a security firm hires ex soldiers to give them jobs which I believe was the purpose of Comm good for them. Please tell me who gets sixty bucks an hour.

[Rue]

On 8/11/2019 at 8:08 PM, Argus said:

Border crossings up again, heading for an all time high. There just hasn't been much publicity because it seems that most of the mainstream media now finds the subject uncomfortable.

Canadians could be forgiven for believing the crisis has been resolved. But the opposite is true. In the first six months of 2019, 26,860 people entered Canada illegally or under false pretenses to make asylum claims.

That number is higher than the first half of 2018, when Canada received 25,225 claims, and the first half of 2017 when 18,445 claims were filed. It’s more than the total number of claims in 2016: 23,870.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-illegal-border-crossings-in-canada-yes-its-still-happening

This is an issue Canadians clearly have no interest in. The fact its gone on this long speaks to that and so does the fact that Trudeau is probably getting re-elected.  When was the last time anyone saw Andrew Scheer.  Can you believe we are weeks from an election and not a damn peep in the press about the chaos.

[Argus]

8 minutes ago, Rue said:

This is an issue Canadians clearly have no interest in. The fact its gone on this long speaks to that and so does the fact that Trudeau is probably getting re-elected.  When was the last time anyone saw Andrew Scheer.  Can you believe we are weeks from an election and not a damn peep in the press about the chaos.

Canadians care but it's not the absolute top of their list of concerns to the point they'll vote for the PPC. All Andrew Scheer does is make mouth noises about doing better, but presents no ideas about how.

I think the Canadian media, progressives all, don't want to attention to ... whatever the hell they're calling it now - "Incidental immigrants"? "Accidental immigrants?" "Immigrants who just haven't done the paperwork yet"? After all, anyone who opposes illegal immigrants is THE SAME AS DONALD TRUMP!!! AAAAGGHHh!

[egghead]

On 8/11/2019 at 2:24 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

Nice to know our government is incompetent in yet another area.

To be fair, Canada is a sanction country. We want it that way, and we are just one step away from "40 acres and a mule." 

[Argus]

CBSA union once again pointing out that we haven't got anywhere near the resources to evict the migrants crossing our borders, and that most simply disappear into the woodwork. We often don't even know who or what they are.

“For those asylum seekers that know that they are not going to be able to reach the stage that their claim will be granted in Canada, or they know they have a criminal history, the concern is they may disappear,” Jean-Pierre Fortin told Mercedes Stephenson on Global News. They disappear. Including dangerous criminals.To add insult to injury, the CBSA recently revealed that some of the claims they receive are from people of “unknown nationalities.”

“For various reasons, there are times when the CBSA cannot immediately determine a person’s country of origin upon their arrival in Canada,” said CBSA Western Canada Communications Officer, Luke Reimer.

An RCMP Freedom of Information request revealed that over half of the migrants crossing illegally into British Columbia were of “unknown nationality.”

“We certainly don’t have the resources to track them down and deport them,” said Fortin about the illegal migrants who “disappear.”

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-canada-is-losing-the-battle-in-dealing-with-illegal-migrants