French Patriot Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 What good is a good god, when people want an evil god? The Gnostic Cathars thought themselves to be a peaceful good man religion and basically the only good non-violent Christians. History is showing that that was true. That is due to the fact that they did not war against other religions the way the other Christians of those days did. As Christians and other religionists will attest, and usually don’t, that all the religions in those days were war like and war loving. They gorged on blood and shit. Most except for esoteric ecumenist Gnostics, who warred with their mouths, instead of inquisitions, jihads and holy wars. Gnostics knew how to live in peace, but as history has shown us, the good die young and the evil grows threw murder and corruption. Hurray for the mainstream religions. Gnostic against Gnostic is nice because, as esoteric ecumenists, we respect each other as doing what Jesus taught and that was to seek god perpetually, but never find him. Jesus was from an old school single eye shaman or guru training in Egypt, knowledge seekers and not god worshipers; and told us to look to our emotions as well as our minds for the best rules and laws to live by. We know what those best laws are but do not implement them; because they lead to piece and people want the drama of war. You are not following a good god, you are following man’s law and Trump shows how badly all of man’s laws are working. We have all put the god of money above all the gods except for the most evil gods that man has created. The Yahweh and Allah twins. We have no choice in this thanks to our oligarch masters. The Yahweh and Allah twins cannot possibly exist. He would certainly punish such a flagrant insult. Instead, the twins hide. Being made in our image, god is quite insecure. That is what being good does, as the good know that when people want a powerful god, that basically means that they are evil as well, as they are to emulate god. A genocidal god who kills when he can cure. We follow secular law and not god’s barbaric laws. We look for security in dollars and war and not god’s power. Secular law is teaching us better morals and ethics than religions. God should capitulate because he has lost the war. We have all put another god above all the gods. Religions die hard. Laïcité is cushioning the blows as gently as it can but too many religionists will still die. Unless the world goes esoteric ecumenist like Jesus was. It is too bad that we all want gods of war instead of a god of peace. Do you have any idea as to how to mitigate that bias? It might be written in our selfish gene and wanting an evil god might be good. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 They don't want an evil god. They want to think they are God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Patriot Posted July 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Marocc said: They don't want an evil god. They want to think they are God. Indeed. One delusion leads to another. We are all god in the sense that we should all be trying to live whatever ideal we think humans should be. Anything else is wish list and fantasy. Jesus asked, have ye forgotten that ye are gods? Most people have. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, French Patriot said: Jesus asked, have ye forgotten that ye are gods? Most people have He didn't say it to all Mankind, but to magistrates. Edited July 15, 2019 by Marocc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Patriot Posted July 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Marocc said: He didn't say it to all Mankind, but to magistrates. The bible was not just written for the magistrates. These quotes say he was talking to all people. Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught. Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, French Patriot said: The bible was not just written for the magistrates. These quotes say he was talking to all people. Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught. Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded Regards DL Allan Watts' intelligence was at a questionable level - too questionable for him to try and interpret God's message to Mankind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Patriot Posted July 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, Marocc said: Allan Watts' intelligence was at a questionable level - too questionable for him to try and interpret God's message to Mankind. LOL. You killed the messenger without showing your intelligent interpretation of those scriptures or showing where Watts whent wrong. You win that argument. Oh wait ---- Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, French Patriot said: LOL. You killed the messenger without showing your intelligent interpretation of those scriptures or showing where Watts whent wrong. You win that argument. Oh wait ---- Regards DL In Islam jesus was never killed. And there is no particularly intelligent interpretation without facing the fact that the writing is from people, not from God, and is corrupted. Edited July 16, 2019 by Marocc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Patriot Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Marocc said: In Islam jesus was never killed. And there is no particularly intelligent interpretation without facing the fact that the writing is from people, not from God, and is corrupted. Jesus death was not at issue. His way of thinking and guidance was. Thanks for showing us your mind. Fail. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, French Patriot said: Jesus death was not at issue. His way of thinking and guidance was You accused me of killing the messenger. Sound like it's an issue to you. you ignored my comment about the credibility (or lack of it) of the bible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Patriot Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Marocc said: You accused me of killing the messenger. Sound like it's an issue to you. you ignored my comment about the credibility (or lack of it) of the bible. The messenger was Watts. Good lord. Have you never read other religions and belief systems? Almost all sages and gurus speak of enhancing ones thinking and seeking our higher minds through meditation and fasting the way Jesus says is his way. You might want to try it my young friend. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, French Patriot said: The messenger was Watts. Good lord. Have you never read other religions and belief systems? Almost all sages and gurus speak of enhancing ones thinking and seeking our higher minds through meditation and fasting the way Jesus says is his way. You might want to try it my young friend. Regards DL Didn't Watts drink himself to death? My idea of Jesus is different from yours. Bible isn't my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Patriot Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Marocc said: Didn't Watts drink himself to death? Don't know and don't care. 10 minutes ago, Marocc said: My idea of Jesus is different from yours. I would expect that given that we all think of things differently. 11 minutes ago, Marocc said: Bible isn't my book. It is just one of many holy books and thinking systems. It is worse than most unless you cherry pick the way I did. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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