Conservative workers turfed

[Cartman]

Wow, more Conservatives turfed. It sure seems as though they have either lost or fired a lot of their workers.

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"The individual would not give the actual figure. But she said that changes are being made, they are planned, 'everybody makes changes, it's something we don't want to talk about'," he said.

The first number given to CTV and The Canadian Press was at least 15 people let go.

He suspected many Conservative MPs will be upset by this move.

"They know a lot of these aides, who have worked for the party for a long time. At least three of them actually ran for the Conservatives in the last election campaign," he said.

[mirror]

Before this smozoola the last forecast I saw for the Conservatives was 71 seats. Forecasters must be revising their forecasts downwards again after this. I think this means that the Bloc could well become the official opposition again. Jeez!

[shoop]

Yawn,

Lots of forecasts out there, yet one note mirror continues to beat the CPC in freefall bandwagon.

Hmmm, wouldn't your NDs with your illogical and incoherent leader be ecstatic with 71 seats?

[Canuck E Stan]

From the same article:

"Some of Harper's officials noted that Prime Minister Paul Martin's office has seen more than 30 people leave since the June 28, 2004 federal election."

Of course the "unbiased" media doesn't see a story in that, and wht not?

[shoop]

From the same article:

"Some of Harper's officials noted that Prime Minister Paul Martin's office has seen more than 30 people leave since the June 28, 2004 federal election."

Of course the "unbiased" media doesn't see a story in that, and wht not?

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Just goes to show how truly desperate they are to paint a picture of disarray in the office of the Official Leader of the Opposition.

Gotta love how there is absolutely zero traction to this story. Nobody cares, except mirror.

[Cartman]

From the same article:

"Some of Harper's officials noted that Prime Minister Paul Martin's office has seen more than 30 people leave since the June 28, 2004 federal election."

Of course the "unbiased" media doesn't see a story in that, and wht not?

How can it be biased if it reported that they lost 30 people in the last year? I thought this article was interesting not just because he lost a few staff, but because he turfed 15 in one day and more importantly, some top level people throughout the summer. They do not want to talk about it either.

Go ahead and compare them to the Liberals, but I would say they are not exactly organized right now either. They are facing serious debt and likely another minority government. How long will Martin last after that?

Even CTV cannot say the word Conservative without some sort of hidden agenda and conspiracy being suspected by right-wingers.

[August1991]

How can it be biased if it reported that they lost 30 people in the last year? I thought this article was interesting not just because he lost a few staff, but because he turfed 15 in one day and more importantly, some top level people throughout the summer. They do not want to talk about it either.

It's not biased. Mackay talked about 5, not 15, but it's still a story. And the PMO is larger than Harper's office.

When I saw the articles, I thought: WTF? I wondered about Harper's line "I never comment on staff." (Does that mean he never talks to his wife about a bad day at the office?) And then, Mackay commented on the change.

Harper's job is difficult and a staffer'postion in Official Opposition is very risky. I think Stronach's departure made a difference. Johnson's book about Harper makes it plain that Harper is involved in politics because he believes he can make a difference. I suspect Harper is now deciding what that difference will be.

Why didn't he get the right people inhis team from the begininning? Some will say that Harper's not a people person but I'm going to give him a chance. If it doesn't work, it is right to admit the truth and move on.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

[shoop]

When I saw the articles, I thought: WTF?  I wondered about Harper's line "I never comment on staff." (Does that mean he never talks to his wife about a bad day at the office?)  And then, Mackay commented on the change.

Why didn't he get the right people inhis team from the begininning?  Some will say that Harper's not a people person but I'm going to give him a chance.  If it doesn't work, it is right to admit the truth and move on.

Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.

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For your first questions, it is very shrewd for Harper to have McKay play the role he is playing. Harper appears above the fray while Mckay is the 'hatchetman' if you will.

About not getting the right people .... hmmm. You ever been involved in an office merger or takeover? It's a far different animal then creating a staff from scratch.

There are a lot of staffing decisions to be made. Probably smart to keep somebody from each party in some positions. Then as the team evolves you decide who is the best fit with the new direction you are trying to move the new team.

Harper is definitely moulding his team for the new Conservative Party of Canada. Only time will tell if he is making smart decisions.

[August1991]

A mini-shuffle of cabinet and a potentially larger shakeup of civil servants is expected in Ottawa as soon as today, as Prime Minister Paul Martin's government gears up for its pre-election session of Parliament.

Toronto Star

Why is it that when Martin makes major changes in staff, it is presented as "housecleaning" whereas when Harper does it, it is perceived as evidence of incompetence. Am I wrong in saying that is how the media presents this?

[shoop]

Why is it that when Martin makes major changes in staff, it is presented as "housecleaning" whereas when Harper does it, it is perceived as evidence of incompetence.  Am I wrong in saying that is how the media presents this?

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I wouldn't say it was portrayed as incompetence in the CTV piece. More like trying to create a story that isn't really there.

There is some validity that the situation in Harper's office could be viewed as a little more unstable. Maybe all of the changes should have been done at once. More lessons to remember for the furute.

[Shakeyhands]

From the same article:

"Some of Harper's officials noted that Prime Minister Paul Martin's office has seen more than 30 people leave since the June 28, 2004 federal election."

Of course the "unbiased" media doesn't see a story in that, and wht not?

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The difference being that the NDP didn't just join forces with the Liberal party and then call itself the Liberal party then fire all the Liberal staffers. See, it even looks sordid when you read it!

[Shakeyhands]

Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.

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Close August... but I think its really "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

[mirror]

A mini-shuffle of cabinet and a potentially larger shakeup of civil servants is expected in Ottawa as soon as today, as Prime Minister Paul Martin's government gears up for its pre-election session of Parliament.

Toronto Star

Why is it that when Martin makes major changes in staff, it is presented as "housecleaning" whereas when Harper does it, it is perceived as evidence of incompetence. Am I wrong in saying that is how the media presents this?

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Now that the Conservatives are no no longer in contention for government, welcome to the NDP media experience.

[Canuck E Stan]

QUOTE(Canuck E Stan @ Sep 7 2005, 12:58 AM)

From the same article:

"Some of Harper's officials noted that Prime Minister Paul Martin's office has seen more than 30 people leave since the June 28, 2004 federal election."

Of course the "unbiased" media doesn't see a story in that, and why not?

The article did mention it,but with the Conservatives the announcement of these events is almost immediate to the event occurring.With the Liberals it is never reported in the same timely fashion by the media or does the media feel it's relevant to report or even give information about those canned by the Liberals.

How about the changes in staff by Layton? It's like reporting only half the story if your reporting about staff changes.Is this not bias reporting?

I'm still waiting for a story on Deputy Prime Minister Ann McLelland, when she said last week that "we are the Americans best friends" and would help them. Note,she didn"t say they are OUR best friends ,but we are THIERS.Was it a sllip ,or was she trying to score with the anti-American crowd.

I felt some reporter would have done a story on that one.Seems reporters don't want to ask questions that the public would ask. Sorry if I went off topic.

[shoop]

No need to stress about it. The reorganization really is a non-story.

Better to right the ship now than try to do so in the midst of an election.

[mirror]

QUOTE(Canuck E Stan @ Sep 7 2005, 12:58 AM) 16

I'm still waiting for a story on Deputy Prime Minister Ann McLelland, when she said last week that "we are the Americans best friends" and would help them. Note,she didn"t say they are OUR best friends ,but we are THIERS.Was it a sllip ,or was she trying to score  with the anti-American crowd.

I felt some reporter would have done a story on that one.Seems reporters don't want to ask questions that the public would ask. Sorry if I went off  topic.

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Actually I think you are pettifogging. Check this out:

Link Post #15

[shoop]

Actually I think you are pettifogging. Check this out:

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wtf does "pettifogging" mean?

[Canuck E Stan]

Pettifogging- rules or details are too small and unimportant to give attention to.

Mirror , your post only tells me that the Americans are happy to recieve Canadian help.I don't think you got the point of my post.

Ann McLelland words are what I'm referring to . If I told my best friend that I was her best friend, that's not saying she is my best friend. If you can understand that.

It's the choice of words by Ann McLelland I question,not the actions of the Americans towards Canadian help.

[mirror]

Dear CES

Yes I think I understood the subtle difference that you were pointing out and because at least some of us seem to be a little bit touchy about our US-Cdn connection due to NAFTA, softwood, etc, I thinks perhaps we may be splitting hairs. I didn't read anything into it, but one never knows for sure. I hope McLellan was being friendly as the US has just experienced a terrible tragedy, and we need to be there for them right now.

Cheers,

[mirror]

Its about time that the media got tough with the Conservatives

I think this MP raises a valid issue.

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[shoop]

Interesting blog Solberg has.

Please start new threads when posting something completely off topic and unrelated to anything in the existing thread....

[mirror]

Dear shoop

In case you were wondering I have put you on ignore and am not responding to your posts.

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Cheers

[shoop]

Dear shoop

In case you were wondering I have put you on ignore and am not responding to your posts.

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Cheers

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How did you know I posted something then?

Don't worry though, I'll still hold you to task when you show your ongoing ingnorance in ignoring Greg's wishes.