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Black Dog:

Please. Under the circumstances, Nagin's tirade was mild.

A cuss-filled tirade on the radio is inexusable for the Mayor of New Orleans. It makes him look emotional - like the typical LLL.

Interesting that you ommitted the rest of the paragraph

The "rest"/next paragraph from the liberal Washington Post:

"The federal government stands ready to work with state and local officials to secure New Orleans and the state of Louisiana," White House spokesman Dan Bartlett said. "The president will not let any form of bureaucracy get in the way of protecting the citizens of Louisiana."

Yet another example of Black Dog's intellectual dishonesty. :angry:

Which doesn't support your contention that it hurt the Democrats: people tend to seek out information that validates and confirms their preexisting biases and opinions, so its only natural that people in Republican strongholds would not go to a movie aimed at Democrats.

Er, yes it does. Not only did the American public reject the Democrat's orgasmic embrace of Michael Moore, but after Bush was re-elected the Hollyweird crowd was cool to Moore, and then we had the ultimate glorious opportunity of reading the "you're fired" letter by Michael Moore's manager to Michael Moore. :lol:

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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A cuss-filled tirade on the radio is inexusable for the Mayor of New Orleans. It makes him look emotional - like the typical LLL.

This from the resident water-carrier for the party of Dick "go fuck yourself" Cheney and George W. "major-league asshole" Bush. :lol:

"The federal government stands ready to work with state and local officials to secure New Orleans and the state of Louisiana," White House spokesman Dan Bartlett said. "The president will not let any form of bureaucracy get in the way of protecting the citizens of Louisiana."

Yet another example of Black Dog's intellectual dishonesty.

You mean the White House's cheif flak is joining in the ass-covering? Shocking?

Er, yes it does. Not only did the American public reject the Democrat's orgasmic embrace of Michael Moore, but after Bush was re-elected the Hollyweird crowd was cool to Moore, and then we had the ultimate glorious opportunity of reading the "you're fired" letter by Michael Moore's manager to Michael Moore

Uh...you have absolutely no evidence that "Farenheit 9-11" had any affect on the election.

How about that federal state of emergency declaration, hey?

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After reciting a list of top FEMA bureacrats appointed by Bush - all cronies of his with no experience or training in emergency management.

"Is it too much to ask for that there be someone in charge at the emergency management agency who knows what the hell to do in an emergency?" Jack Cafferty CNN

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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Disarray Marked the Path From Hurricane to Anarchy

The official autopsies of the flawed response to the catastrophic storm have already begun in Washington, and may offer lessons for dealing with a terrorist attack or even another hurricane this season. But an initial examination of Katrina's aftermath demonstrates the extent to which the federal government failed to fulfill the pledge it made after the Sept. 11 attacks to face domestic threats as a unified, seamless force.

Instead, the crisis in New Orleans deepened because of a virtual standoff between hesitant federal officials and besieged authorities in Louisiana, interviews with dozens of officials show.

Federal Emergency Management Agency officials expected the state and city to direct their own efforts and ask for help as needed. Leaders in Louisiana and New Orleans, though, were so overwhelmed by the scale of the storm that they were not only unable to manage the crisis, but they were not always exactly sure what they needed. While local officials assumed that Washington would provide rapid and considerable aid, federal officials, weighing legalities and logistics, proceeded at a deliberate pace.

FEMA appears to have underestimated the storm, despite an extraordinary warning from the National Hurricane Center that it could cause "human suffering incredible by modern standards." The agency dispatched only 7 of its 28 urban search and rescue teams to the area before the storm hit and sent no workers at all into New Orleans until after Katrina passed on Monday, Aug. 29.

On Tuesday, a FEMA official who had just flown over the ravaged city by helicopter seemed to have trouble conveying to his bosses the degree of destruction, according to a New Orleans city councilwoman.

"He got on the phone to Washington, and I heard him say, 'You've got to understand how serious this is, and this is not what they're telling me, this is what I saw myself,' " the councilwoman, Cynthia Hedge-Morrell, recalled

They really do need an independent investigator, free of both Republicans and Democrats, to do an investigation. So now Bush & the Republican controlled congress are going to investigate themselves. What is wrong with Americans? Can they NOT handle the truth?

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So perhaps the only reason Bush bounced Brown is that Powell started criticising him. At least he is turfed but not completely appaently.

Outrage gets FEMA director bounced as president thanks Canada for relief effort

Brown's removal yesterday came shortly after it was learned that Bush's former secretary of state, Colin Powell, had joined the chorus criticizing America's response to the disaster.

He remains head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, but his role on the ground on the U.S. Gulf Coast will be taken over by Thad Allen, a Coast Guard vice-admiral who was overseeing New Orleans relief efforts.

The shuffle came on a day Brown was reeling from charges that he padded his resumé and followed a week of calls for his ouster after a slow and plodding federal response was blamed for unnecessary suffering and deaths in the wake of Katrina.

"Michael Brown has done everything he possibly could to co-ordinate the federal response to this unprecedented challenge," said Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff, announcing the change in command at FEMA field headquarters in Baton Rouge, La.

Brown told Associated Press he had been made a scapegoat by the media and looked forward to getting home for a good Mexican meal and a "stiff margarita."

In an interview aired on ABC's 20/20 last night, Powell, the Persian Gulf War hero who became Bush's first-term top diplomat, blasted the lack of preparedness that turned Katrina from a killer storm to a national disaster.

"There was more than enough warning over time about the dangers to New Orleans," Powell told ABC's Barbara Walters.

He said there were "a lot of failures" at all three levels of government, but he did not say race was a factor in the tardy effort to rescue tens of thousands, mainly African Americans, who languished in squalid shelters at New Orleans' Superdome, the convention centre and at the side of an interstate highway.

"I don't think it's racism," Powell said. "I think it's economic.

"But poverty disproportionately affects African Americans in this country. And it happened because they were poor."

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Brownie not douing a helluva job, pulled from Katrina duty
Amid harsh criticism of federal relief efforts, Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff announced Friday that Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, is handing over Hurricane Katrina relief duties to a Coast Guard official and returning to Washington to oversee the national office.

You "forgot" to mention that Michael Brown was appointed when the Democrats controlled Congress. :lol:

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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Black Dog:

This from the resident water-carrier for the party of Dick "go fuck yourself" Cheney and George W. "major-league asshole" Bush. :lol:

Cheney did not deliberately go on the airwaves and say that publically, and Bush erred by saying that when he thought the microphone was off.

However Nagin went on the air and deliberately hurled a bunch of cuss words, much like John Kerry deliberately went to a reporter and said, "I don't fall over; the son-of-a-bitch knocked me over" - when a Secret Service man (whose job is put his life on the line for Kerry, apparently collided with him while Kerry was snowboarding).

Uh...you have absolutely no evidence that "Farenheit 9-11" had any affect on the election.

Uh...yes I do.

Dr. Kelton Rhoads, PhD's conclusion: Fahrenheit 9-11 energized the Republicans

Michael Moore denies he hurt Kerry's campaign

Before the election, many Democrats and liberal activists in groups like MoveOn.org hailed “Fahrenheit 9/11” for its scathing critique of Bush and the U.S.-led war in Iraq and saw the film as a tool for rallying opposition.

After Bush’s re-election last month, some analysts suggested that Moore and other outspoken celebrities on the left had had become polarizing figures who alienated Middle America as much as they galvanized the Democratic faithful.

Please, Michael Moore. Make another "fact-filled" documentary. :lol:

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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After muddling through eight pages of stuff, some of it factual, and some of it simple partisan bickering, one thing is certain; EVERYONE dropped the ball on this one.

Local officials could have done more.

The state could have done more.

The federal government could have, and should have, done MUCH more.

And the levee system should have been upgraded years ago.

It was a time bomb waiting to go off. Not a case of "if", but rather "when".

The level of preparedness was truly sad.

The response equally so.

Oh well, at least Canada is there giving aid and relief.

Even though GWB expressed early on that he wasn't particularly interested in our help.

I need another coffee

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Dear PocketRocket,

After muddling through eight pages of stuff, some of it factual, and some of it simple partisan bickering, one thing is certain; EVERYONE dropped the ball on this one
I must concur, the whole thing was a mess. There can only be speculation as to whether 3 extra feet of levee would have stopped the breaches, (something I doubt, as mother nature usually can easily defeat anything man can do) and blaming Bush is a political, more than factual, approach.
The level of preparedness was truly sad.

The response equally so

There have been predictions of 'the big one' along the San Andreas fault for decades. When it does come, this situation will be repeated 100-fold.

Would the Special Olympics Committee disqualify kids born with flippers from the swimming events?

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You "forgot" to mention that Michael Brown was appointed when the Democrats controlled Congress.

Right, so it's not Bush's fault for choosing one of his incompentent cronies, it's the Democrats for not fighting his selection (at which pouint they would have been labeled "obsrtuctionist" and engaging ing "partisal politics"). I remember a time when the Republicans were the party of personal responsibility. No more.

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'Mornin', Thelonious

I must concur, the whole thing was a mess. There can only be speculation as to whether 3 extra feet of levee would have stopped the breaches, (something I doubt, as mother nature usually can easily defeat anything man can do)

That may be the case, but I guess we'll never know now.

But one thing is certain, we never saw any of that "succeed or die trying" attitude.

Kind of like sitting in a rowboat in case of a flood, but not patching that obvious hole in the hull.

...and blaming Bush is a political, more than factual, approach.

True, which is why I chose to spread the blame around.

These levees should have been improved YEARS ago, and everyone who chose not to address the issue is partly to blame.

That adds up to a lot of people.

There have been predictions of 'the big one' along the San Andreas fault for decades. When it does come, this situation will be repeated 100-fold.

Why does everyone blame it on Saint Andreas???

It ain't REALLY his fault :P

But in all seriousness, you're absolutely right.

I need another coffee

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This is rediculous. Let me get this straight.... the government is to blame for responding slower than lightning speed for a natural disaster of epic proportions?

Imagine the opposition to the government if they decided that everyone should move away from the area and deem it unsafe to live in. With a history of recurring natural disasters, it would be the prudent thing to do. Throwing good money after bad.

But no, they'll rebuild it. That's the insane part. The people seem to want it both ways and the government cannot win, but instead must be led around by the nose ring.

The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name.

Don't be humble - you're not that great.

Golda Meir

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This is rediculous. Let me get this straight.... the government is to blame for responding slower than lightning speed for a natural disaster of epic proportions?
The government is responwsible because 5 of the top 8 men in FEMA were political appointees who knew nothing about disaster managment, for screwing up its response, and for slashing funds meant to reinforce and upgrade flood protection.

Is that hard to understand?

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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This is rediculous. Let me get this straight.... the government is to blame for responding slower than lightning speed for a natural disaster of epic proportions?
The government is responwsible because 5 of the top 8 men in FEMA were political appointees who knew nothing about disaster managment, for screwing up its response, and for slashing funds meant to reinforce and upgrade flood protection.

Is that hard to understand?

No it's not hard to understand how a lot of people jump on the political bandwagon against the government at a time like this. It just doesn't make sense to me why. It'a counterproductive.

There's pork all over the place in every government, including soft appointments. Tell me the next government won't be turfed if there's a meteor strike in Alaska and it's found that they weren't totally prepared for it.

The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name.

Don't be humble - you're not that great.

Golda Meir

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The "disaster" was not of epic proportions, though. It was one of a size that has been expected and the hurricane was not more severe than some past ones or those that occur in other areas. Unpreparedness was the fault.

It is now known that the National Weather Service issued the warning a day before Katrina struck. FEMA knew. Homeland Security (Chertiff) knew in time to evacuate many but no one took the warning seriously.

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The "disaster" was not of epic proportions, though. It was one of a size that has been expected and the hurricane was not more severe than some past ones or those that occur in other areas. Unpreparedness was the fault.

It is now known that the National Weather Service issued the warning a day before Katrina struck. FEMA knew. Homeland Security (Chertiff) knew in time to evacuate many but no one took the warning seriously.

Yes, unlike a twister, when local help is in the next town, this hurricane wiped out all the local towns, so it becomes of a proportion I termed epic, whatever. My point is that local authorities normally take the slack until federal response becomes available. That part of the equation was missing so there was a void until normal federal response was on site.

People can always find mistakes if they're looking for them, usually in hindsight when it's easy to second guess someone. I'm not listening too much to those complaints.

The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name.

Don't be humble - you're not that great.

Golda Meir

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Katrina - Taking Hypocrisy to a New Level

by Alan Burkhart

Almost immediately after Hurricane Katrina passed through New Orleans, Democrats began criticizing the Bush administration for the supposed poor handling of the situation. The so-called Mainstream Media constantly aired scenes of death and destruction while depicting heroic rescue efforts as being “inadequate” or “too little, too late.” As with the War on Terror, the left is again attempting to portray President Bush as being both incompetent and uncaring. On the surface it might appear that this is simply another facet of the ongoing Democrat smear campaign against President Bush. There is, however, another reason, and the double hypocrisy involved here is sickening when one takes into account the human suffering involved.

It has been my experience that when liberals collectively make an accusation against the right, it is to cover the fact that the left is actually the guilty party. Think back to the recent presidential election, when liberals all over the country were screaming about voter disenfranchisement, and all the while the MSM largely ignored the many findings of tampering and voter intimidation on the part of the Democrats. This is standard operating procedure for the left’s unholy triad in government, the MSM, and the blogosphere.

Thus far in regard to New Orleans, the left has accused President Bush of both being too slow to act and then acting improperly. They’ve even hauled in Jesse Jackson to make the case (on CNN of course) that the Bush Administration intentionally delayed its reaction to the New Orleans disaster because the city has a predominately black population.

The awful truth behind the left’s newest smokescreen is that it was Democrats who caused the majority of the problems with the relief effort, and they’re scrambling to hide that fact.

Fully forty-eight hours before Katrina hit the Gulf Coast, President Bush declared the entire region a disaster area in order to speed the process of bringing in federal aid. Two days before Katrina made landfull, President Bush requested that Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco order a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans on August 27.. It was not until Blanco called New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin that the madatory evacuation was called, 24 hours before Katrina narrowly missed the Crescent City.

After the levees were breeched, in a face-to-face meeting, President Bush requested that Gov. Blanco turn over control of the Louisiana National Guard to the federal government. This is a standard action in a disaster of this size and scope. After waiting 24 hours to make up her mind, Blanco refused.

New Orleans’ own evacuation plans specifically include the mobilization of the city’s fleet of buses to evacuate citizens and visitors without personal transportation. Those buses, as everyone knows, now stand in feet of water--unused.

Mayor Nagin asked residents who were unable to evacuate to go to the Louisiana Superdome, which after the storm became little more than an island surrounded by poisonous water and floating corpses. Violence and even rapes have since been reported inside the Superdome as people became frustrated and angry at their situation.

In an interview with FoxNews, former FEMA Director Joseph Allbaugh stated that when he headed the agency, he refused to allow the Superdome to be used as a shelter during hurricanes. FEMA guidelines clearly state that “supershelters” should be located outside of local floodplains to avoid just the type of situation that occurred in the Superdome.

Further evidence of hypocrisy can be found in the venomous criticism of FEMA by congressional Democrats, even going so far as to demand the resignation of Director Michael Brown. But FEMA had fourteen truckloads of food and medical supplies already staged for delivery into the city well before the storm hit. These were delivered to the Superdome between August 29 and August 30 under the supervision of the Louisiana National Guard.

After the 9/11 attack, the Department of Homeland Security issued grants for the development of full service mobile hospitals for deployment into regions struck by a natural disaster or terrorist attack. Just such a state-of-the-art mobile hospital, staffed by 100 medical professionals, was left stranded in Mississippi because Louisiana officials would not allow it to enter New Orleans. The Red Cross was also pre-positioned to provide needed supplies to the city, but the state refused to let them deliver, claiming that the Red Cross was not needed at that time. (Huh?)

Additionally, the left is blaming President Bush for the collapse of the New Orleans flood protection systems, allowing the gigantic flood that inundated the city. Moveon.org has even bused a group of unfortunately gullible evacuees to Washington, D.C. to protest President Bush’s alleged improprieties in this matter. According to the left, the president cut funds that the Army Corps of Engineers needed to strengthen the seawall and the levee system. Once again, a careful examination of the facts reveal the lies behind the accusations.

Records obtained by Cybercast News Service from the U.S. Senate's Energy and Water Development Subcommittee show that under the Bush administration, Louisiana leads the nation in federal funding for Corps of Engineers projects. The state received nearly two billion dollars of the Corps' most recent $22.9 billion budget. That’s half a billion more than second-place California even though California has seven times Louisiana’s population.

A Washington Post article reveals that the Army Corps of Engineers had launched a $748 million dollar project at the New Orleans Industrial Canal (the one that flooded the city). This project, however, had nothing to do with flood control. The project’s aim was to build a new lock for the canal to accommodate increased barge traffic even though barge traffic in the canal has been decreasing for more than a decade. Further analysis shows that the existing lock could have been rebuilt at a fraction of the cost of building a new one. It’s worth noting that the levee broke very near the location of this questionable lock project.

Another pork-barrel project involved deepening the waters at the Port of Iberia at a cost of $194 million. This project initially failed a Corps of Engineers cost-benefit analysis, but Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu (a Democrat) sneaked language into an unrelated spending bill ordering the Corps to redo its calculations. The Corps also spends in excess of ten million dollars per year dredging little-used waterways for barge traffic that has never been as busy as forecasted by state officials.

It gets worse. In December 1995, long before the presidency of George W. Bush, the Orleans Levee Board, a local government agency in charge of the construction and maintenance of floodgates and levees, stated in a Times-Picayune article that state officials had obtained over $60 million in flood control funding. This money was intended to fund the launch of a $140 million flood-control campaign including 41 separate projects. The board promised New Orleans residents that the “few manageable gaps” in the levee system would be “sealed within four years, completing our circle of protection.”

A few months later, the Levee Board was mired in a scandal regarding the violation of a number of state bidding laws. Legislative Auditor Dan Kyle was quoted in the Times-Picayune that he had "repeatedly faulted the Levee Board for the way it awards contracts, spends money and ignores public bid laws.”

Kyle further stated that the board was nearing bankruptcy and should not be allowed to refinance any bonds or issue new ones until an acceptable plan for reaching solvency had been submitted. This blatant mismanagement of funds resulted in the levee board being unable to spend the matching federal funds and thus the projects lay dormant.

Want more? In 1998 the Louisiana government had a $2 billion construction budget but only $1.98 million of that money was earmarked for flood control projects. During that same period however, the state was able to spend $22 million to build a new State Supreme Court facility and $35 million on an expansion of the New Orleans Convention Center.

In 1999, the Louisiana Legislature appropriated $49.5 million for improvements to the levee system, but the State Bond Commission gave the projects a “Priority Five” ranking, grouping it with minor projects that had little chance of getting full funding.

In recent years the Bush administration has attempted to shift the emphasis of Corpd of Engineers projects in Louisiana from new construction to needed maintenance, but has had only limited success. Louisiana’s representatives in Washington and local officials have been far more interested in pork-barrel spending projects that kept their approval numbers high while doing little to ensure the safety of the city of New Orleans.

Now those chickens have come home to roost, and those same state officials, both elected and appointed, are circling the wagons to protect themselves from any culpability in the loss of life and utter destruction of a beautiful city. New Orleans isn’t a victim of alleged incompetence by the Bush administration. It’s a victim of decades of vote-buying, mismanagement, and criminal negligence by a pack of self-important politicians and bureaucrats who have for years ignored a growing danger to the people they’re sworn to serve.

Now those people who survived Katrina are rightfully angry and they’re demanding answers to uncomfortable questions. Will we see honest answers from Mary Landrieu, David Vitter (a Republican), Kathleen Blanco, Ray Nagin, and others? No. What we’re seeing is a typical group of irresponsible politicians seeking to heap the blame on their perceived political enemies. And they do so even while those same enemies are bending over backwards to help the people they themselves failed to protect.

Sources:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...5090701986.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...ml?nav=hcmodule

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/09/04/katri...e.ap/index.html

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page...T20050907a.html

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page...T20050909a.html

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050909-121037-6314r.htm

http://insider.washingtontimes.com/article...07-121729-5097r

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This is rediculous. Let me get this straight.... the government is to blame for responding slower than lightning speed for a natural disaster of epic proportions?
The government is responwsible because 5 of the top 8 men in FEMA were political appointees who knew nothing about disaster managment, for screwing up its response, and for slashing funds meant to reinforce and upgrade flood protection.

Is that hard to understand?

No it's not hard to understand how a lot of people jump on the political bandwagon against the government at a time like this. It just doesn't make sense to me why. It'a counterproductive.

There's pork all over the place in every government, including soft appointments. Tell me the next government won't be turfed if there's a meteor strike in Alaska and it's found that they weren't totally prepared for it.

The fact was that FEMA didn't respond for days after the extent of the damage and seriousness was known. The President was too busy vacationing and getting nice guitars from Country Singers to worry too much about it and get off his duff as well... sad really, as well as being unexcusable.

"They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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The fact was that FEMA didn't respond for days after the extent of the damage and seriousness was known.  The President was too busy vacationing and getting nice guitars from Country Singers to worry too much about it and get off his duff as well... sad really, as well as being unexcusable.

Don't be surprised when the inevitable inquiry into this mess finds that the bulk of the blame in this matter lies with the State of Louisianna and the municipal government of New Orleans Parish, despite every attempt by the Deaniac party and it's sympathizers to blame the whole thing on Bush.

I'm also amused that the whole "Bush is a racist" meme still has legs. When I started posting to various forums earlier this year I encountered a LOT of sentiment coming from the left that Colin and Condy were "house niggers" (I quote verbatum) and not representative of Black America (whatever that means) and therefore did not count as evidence that Bush was pro-diversity. To hear the same people now stating without a hint of irony that Bush is a racist, based on the flimsiest of pretexts, is just HILARIOUS. You all make me laugh. I can't wait for the 2006 elections. It's going to be interesting.

"And, representing the Slightly Silly Party, Mr. Kevin Phillips Bong."

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"Er..no. Harper was elected because the people were sick of the other guys and wanted a change. Don't confuse electoral success (which came be attributed to a wide variety of factors) with broad support. That's the surest way to wind up on the sidelines." - Black Dog

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The fact was that FEMA didn't respond for days after the extent of the damage and seriousness was known.  The President was too busy vacationing and getting nice guitars from Country Singers to worry too much about it and get off his duff as well... sad really, as well as being unexcusable.

Don't be surprised when the inevitable inquiry into this mess finds that the bulk of the blame in this matter lies with the State of Louisianna and the municipal government of New Orleans Parish, despite every attempt by the Deaniac party and it's sympathizers to blame the whole thing on Bush.

I'm also amused that the whole "Bush is a racist" meme still has legs. When I started posting to various forums earlier this year I encountered a LOT of sentiment coming from the left that Colin and Condy were "house niggers" (I quote verbatum) and not representative of Black America (whatever that means) and therefore did not count as evidence that Bush was pro-diversity. To hear the same people now stating without a hint of irony that Bush is a racist, based on the flimsiest of pretexts, is just HILARIOUS. You all make me laugh. I can't wait for the 2006 elections. It's going to be interesting.

Dear BHS

Actually speaking of Powell it wasn't until he spoke out and criticised the federal government's response that Bush fired "Browie you're doing a hell of a job".

1171

Cheers

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The fact was that FEMA didn't respond for days after the extent of the damage and seriousness was known.  The President was too busy vacationing and getting nice guitars from Country Singers to worry too much about it and get off his duff as well... sad really, as well as being unexcusable.

Don't be surprised when the inevitable inquiry into this mess finds that the bulk of the blame in this matter lies with the State of Louisianna and the municipal government of New Orleans Parish, despite every attempt by the Deaniac party and it's sympathizers to blame the whole thing on Bush.

I'm also amused that the whole "Bush is a racist" meme still has legs. When I started posting to various forums earlier this year I encountered a LOT of sentiment coming from the left that Colin and Condy were "house niggers" (I quote verbatum) and not representative of Black America (whatever that means) and therefore did not count as evidence that Bush was pro-diversity. To hear the same people now stating without a hint of irony that Bush is a racist, based on the flimsiest of pretexts, is just HILARIOUS. You all make me laugh. I can't wait for the 2006 elections. It's going to be interesting.

Dear BHS

Actually speaking of Powell it wasn't until he spoke out and criticised the federal government's response that Bush fired "Browie you're doing a hell of a job".

1171

Cheers

Once again, you make no sense. What the hell are you talking about?

"And, representing the Slightly Silly Party, Mr. Kevin Phillips Bong."

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"Er..no. Harper was elected because the people were sick of the other guys and wanted a change. Don't confuse electoral success (which came be attributed to a wide variety of factors) with broad support. That's the surest way to wind up on the sidelines." - Black Dog

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The fact was that FEMA didn't respond for days after the extent of the damage and seriousness was known.  The President was too busy vacationing and getting nice guitars from Country Singers to worry too much about it and get off his duff as well... sad really, as well as being unexcusable.

Don't be surprised when the inevitable inquiry into this mess finds that the bulk of the blame in this matter lies with the State of Louisianna and the municipal government of New Orleans Parish, despite every attempt by the Deaniac party and it's sympathizers to blame the whole thing on Bush.

I'm also amused that the whole "Bush is a racist" meme still has legs. When I started posting to various forums earlier this year I encountered a LOT of sentiment coming from the left that Colin and Condy were "house niggers" (I quote verbatum) and not representative of Black America (whatever that means) and therefore did not count as evidence that Bush was pro-diversity. To hear the same people now stating without a hint of irony that Bush is a racist, based on the flimsiest of pretexts, is just HILARIOUS. You all make me laugh. I can't wait for the 2006 elections. It's going to be interesting.

Dear BHS

Actually speaking of Powell it wasn't until he spoke out and criticised the federal government's response that Bush fired "Browie you're doing a hell of a job".

1171

Cheers

of course it doesnt make sense, BHS read my long post above, it will show you how and why it was the fault of the City of New Orleands and the State of Lousiana that the city was not protected and evacuated properly. And why aid was slow in coming.

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of course it doesnt make sense, BHS read my long post above, it will show you how and why it was the fault of the City of New Orleands and the State of Lousiana that the city was not protected and evacuated properly.  And why aid was slow in coming.

Thanks. I read over your post. I've been watching the news, though, so I actually have a clue as to what's going on. I think most of the people posting about this matter made up their minds before the hurricane made landfall.

"And, representing the Slightly Silly Party, Mr. Kevin Phillips Bong."

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"Er..no. Harper was elected because the people were sick of the other guys and wanted a change. Don't confuse electoral success (which came be attributed to a wide variety of factors) with broad support. That's the surest way to wind up on the sidelines." - Black Dog

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of course it doesnt make sense, BHS read my long post above, it will show you how and why it was the fault of the City of New Orleands and the State of Lousiana that the city was not protected and evacuated properly. And why aid was slow in coming.

Dear MA

Typical of the Bush Republicans to want and take all credit & photo opps when things they perceive in their mind goes right like Bush's photo on that ship saying the War is Over in Iraq. Remember that, what a clown he is. Bush reminds me of Mulroney in some ways, they both will say the most outrageous statements that have no semblance to the truth.

People died, a lot of people died, and all you Republicans want to do is avoid taking any responsibility for the disaster. Pathetic really, Republicans are losing huge amounts of credibility over Katrina, and they are continuing to go blinding marching on following Bush's leadership over the cliff. It looks good on them and I think Republicans are going to be absolutely devastated when the 2006 election results come in.

Bush should apologise, he should have apologised a long tiome ago and taken some responsibility, and he will have to apologise. He has no choice as he is a major screw-up president.

Cheers

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