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I guess you are the guru of perfection. Your opinion is just that your opinion. People have a right to think what they want.

If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?

--Will Rogers (1879-1935)

"Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains."

— Winston Churchill

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mirror, if you have lived in BC for any period of time, you must know that people socially feel left out of Canada, and it isnt an economic or money grab thing. I mean, there are not really any 'Canadian' symbols for common people to identify with, aside from hockey.

My view for seperation would involve BC going solo, as with access to Pacific ports and oil/gas reserves it could do quite well; not with Alberta, Sask, or whoever. BC isn't really Liberal, Conservative, or NDP. You can see this in our history by looking at all the Social Credit victories, and people in Ontario not knowing that that is.

People seem to refer that the BC is conservative, this isn't really true. I just think people like their personal freedom, perhaps along the lines of Hong Kong before China took it over, and not like the US. Yet Left-wingers keep insisting righties want Americanization, and some righties spoil it for the rest of us by putting everything in a dollars and cents equation.

Posted

Here you are Westerners, all of you who hate Canada, and everything it represents, here is the perfect vehicle for you.

You can be the Western Bloc party, and maybe down the line you can merge with the Bloc Quebecois.

Anyway put your money where your mouth is, let's see a little action instead of all that talk, eh! :lol:

Posted

Well, since you seem to have had a change of heart and deleted your 'secret plan for world domination', I guess I can tell you are an NDP person :lol:

Anyways, I honestly think there will be a serious seperation movement sometime in the ahead years. Young people (think 18ish) really have no attachment to Canada, nothing to lose. They haven't had any serious experiences with which to be unified with the ROC,

As long as there is the right person to "stir the pot", then people will start to think about it, instead of it being an underlying thought.

Posted
Yup Doug Christie is just the kind of guy you wanna follow.

What a healthy society he would create.  :blink:

I second that.

Apollo;

What does "socially left out" mean? And I'm about 18ish, (24) and don't know anyone who even thinks about seperation. We're too busy painting faces for world hockey matches :P. But seriously, The only talk of seperation I've heard is on these forums. Nowhere in my university, social circle, or any other place at all.

Oh yeah, I'm from the west too, so you're talking about me, and my peers.

Posted
Here you are Westerners, all of you who hate Canada, and everything it represents, here is the perfect vehicle for you.

You can be the Western Bloc party, and maybe down the line you can merge with the Bloc Quebecois.

Anyway put your money where your mouth is, let's see a little action instead of all that talk, eh!  :lol:

I don't really think that's called for. You don't even know me. That is an uncharactaristic post for you mirror. If your attitude reflects what eastern Canada thinks of us, perhaps we should do something toward restructuring the country. Until then, we are all Canadian.

The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name.

Don't be humble - you're not that great.

Golda Meir

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I suggest to Mirror and others ,they actually go on the Western Block site and visit their forum. Nothing there of any importance or information. Seems everyone thinks this site is a one man parade.The site should be listed in our joke post.

"Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains."

— Winston Churchill

Posted
Yup Doug Christie is just the kind of guy you wanna follow.

What a healthy society he would create.  :blink:

I second that.

Apollo;

What does "socially left out" mean? And I'm about 18ish, (24) and don't know anyone who even thinks about seperation. We're too busy painting faces for world hockey matches :P. But seriously, The only talk of seperation I've heard is on these forums. Nowhere in my university, social circle, or any other place at all.

Oh yeah, I'm from the west too, so you're talking about me, and my peers.

If you are looking for seperatists in the Post-secondary institutes that explains why you aren't finding them =p Heck, I don't even know many in my College that support it (of course, I don't ask around alot), I mainly know everyday joes that support it. You know, the non-elitist hardworkers ;)

The only thing more confusing than a blonde is a Liberal

Check this out

- http://www.republicofalberta.com/

- http://albertarepublicans.org/

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy (1917 - 1963)

Posted
Yup Doug Christie is just the kind of guy you wanna follow.

What a healthy society he would create.  :blink:

I second that.

Apollo;

What does "socially left out" mean? And I'm about 18ish, (24) and don't know anyone who even thinks about seperation. We're too busy painting faces for world hockey matches :P. But seriously, The only talk of seperation I've heard is on these forums. Nowhere in my university, social circle, or any other place at all.

Oh yeah, I'm from the west too, so you're talking about me, and my peers.

Well, I don't support this party first of all, so maybe mirror can quit talking like that :blink:

By "socially left out", I mean that people my age (I am a youngin at 18), have grown up without having anything Canadian. During the '90s with all the federal cutbacks, atleast for people I know growing up in Vancouver, there was virtually no image of the federal govt in communities or schools. Sure, there is Canada Day, but really no parades or anything. With the Army base being shut down, that took a large "Canadian" presence. I mean that people dont explicitly think or talk about seperation, but merely that they dont feel a strong attachment to Canada, and someday, with the right person leading it, that could turn into a seperation movement.

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If you are looking for seperatists in the Post-secondary institutes that explains why you aren't finding them =p Heck, I don't even know many in my College that support it (of course, I don't ask around alot), I mainly know everyday joes that support it. You know, the non-elitist hardworkers ;)

Hehe, good post. I like the "non-elitist hardworkers" phrase :).I wonder if anyone really understands the implications of what a seperation would do, myself less than most I think.

But seriously, where do you guys find these attitudes? Just this weekend I made a point of asking people I saw what they thought. I got "deer in headlights looks" from most. Never heard of it before. Maybe when I'm done school and I have to come out to Alberta to get a job, I'll do some market research :P

Posted

The website is a joke. Never heard of the Western Bloc Party before now and probably won't think of it again after now.

Out.

The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name.

Don't be humble - you're not that great.

Golda Meir

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Doug Christie has lots of time on his hands now that Ernst Zundel has been deported, I gather.

-k

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Posted
I guess you are the guru of perfection. Your opinion is just that your opinion. People have a right to think what they want.

If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?

                       --Will Rogers (1879-1935)

I never thought this idea of a referendum for Quebecers alone to decide whether or not they should remain part of Canada was a good idea in the first place. and I still think the whole idea is absurd, because if Canada is divisble, so is Quebec divisible, and all of Ungava and other parts of Quebec would have to be returned to Canada if Quebec ever were to leave.

But now that the genie is out of the bottle we can't very well say to the West they cannot vote to separate while allowing Quebec the right to do so.

And the Western Bloc party why not? And initially I also thought they had a good website. Everything was fine up until that point.

It was when I saw who the leader was that I realized this was going to become a nightmare. Doug Christie, as leader of a Canadian political party, is probably the worst choice possible. Unbelievable!

Posted
And the Western Bloc party why not? And initially I also thought they had a good website. Everything was fine up until that point.

It was when I saw who the leader was that I realized this was going to become a nightmare. Doug Christie, as leader of a Canadian political party, is probably the worst choice possible. Unbelievable!

Christie has been active in the western separation movement for decades, having help found the western Canada Concept in the early '80s. In many ways, he is the western separation movement. Which kinda explains the movement's lack of credibility.

What about Doug.

The list of far-right extremists defended by Christie is long and telling and includes:

Ernst Zundel, one of the largest suppliers of pro-Nazi literature in the world.

Terry Long, former leader of Aryan Nations, Canada.

James Keegstra, anti-Semitic and white racist schoolteacher.

Malcolm Ross, anti-Semitic and Holocaust-denying schoolteacher.

Bill Harcus, Joe Lockhart, and Theron Skyrba, leaders of the Ku Klux Klan in Manitoba.

Rudy Stanko, one of the leaders of the violent white supremacist organization, the Church of the Creator.

Tony McAleer and the Canadian Liberty Net, a phone service providing white racist, Holocaust-denial, and anti-homosexual hate messages.

John Ross Taylor, leading Canadian "ambassador"of the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations.

Imre Finta, accused war criminal and Nazi collaborator.

Murray Gauvreau, distributor of militia and racist tapes and books.

Doug Collins, white racist and anti-Jewish newspaper columnist.

Wes Mann, founder of the Preferred Network who distributed anti-Semitic hate propaganda and publicizes tours by David Icke.

Paul Fromm, anti-immigrant and neo-fascist propagandist.

Eileen Pressler, leader of the anti-Semitic Council on Public Affairs.

Lady Jane Birdwood, a British aristocrat and one time follower of British fascist leader

Oswald Mosley, a dedicated fascist in her own right, and a convicted peddler of hate propaganda.

Other notable clients include Heritage Front founder Wolfgang Droege and David Ahenakew.

Christie's a guy who probably has a lot of "pride in his ancestry".

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