Bro Posted April 12, 2005 Report Posted April 12, 2005 about our next contenders for pm,Mr. Harper seems to have the best combination of intellect,common sense,and a genuine desire to govern Canada with all of our interests in mind. Quote
Bro Posted April 14, 2005 Author Report Posted April 14, 2005 No negative comments,we all agree then, make the liberals resign,and Mr. Harper and the Conservatives can begin to put Canada back together. SAVE CANADA VOTE CONSERVATIVE Quote
Guest eureka Posted April 14, 2005 Report Posted April 14, 2005 Of the possible candidates, Martin by a country mile. For his demonstrated abilities, experience and political support. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted April 14, 2005 Report Posted April 14, 2005 Gee, I don't know, has he stopped eating babies yet? Quote The government should do something.
Bro Posted April 14, 2005 Author Report Posted April 14, 2005 Unlike my feelings for their past leader,I think Mr. Martin is a step forward for the liberals.However,in good conscience ,voting for him would only be rewarding the liberals for nothing but their lack of concern and negligence in the way they have lead us for the past too many years. Quote
Cameron Posted April 14, 2005 Report Posted April 14, 2005 No negative comments,we all agree then, make the liberals resign,and Mr. Harper and the Conservatives can begin to put Canada back together. SAVE CANADA VOTE CONSERVATIVE OH GLORIOUS COMMENT! BooYA! 100% agree..... Quote Economic Left/Right: 3.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26 I want to earn money and keep the majority of it.
The Terrible Sweal Posted April 14, 2005 Report Posted April 14, 2005 ... Mr. Harper seems to have the best combination of intellect,common sense,and a genuine desire to govern Canada with all of our interests in mind. I could not disagree more. Intellect: Harper's brilliance is evidenced by what, exactly? His skill for articulating neo-conservative cant? His ability to impress the intellectual lightweights at U of C? When it comes to intellect give me Martin any day. A proven CEO and interlocutor with thinkers around the world. Common sense? You can define anything that suits your fancy as 'common sense', and remember, common sense is what tells you the world is flat. Does fronting an organization whose sole approach to public policy is 'tax cuts' count as common sense? Anyway, we don't need 'common sense', we need uncommonly clear perception, sound principles, and a willingness to lead. But it is your last criterion, "genuine desire to govern Canada with all of our interests in mind", in which Harper fails miserably. Harper despises Canada. He doesn't want to govern it, he wants to revolutionize it pursuant to the ill-conceived fantasies of rightist doctrine. Quote
Argus Posted April 17, 2005 Report Posted April 17, 2005 Of the possible candidates, Martin by a country mile. For his demonstrated abilities, experience and political support. Uh, Martin has demonstrated abilities? I haven't been watching close enough, I guess. What abilities has Mr. Dithers demonstrated while I was playing Grand Theft Auto? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 17, 2005 Report Posted April 17, 2005 But it is your last criterion, "genuine desire to govern Canada with all of our interests in mind", in which Harper fails miserably. Harper despises Canada. He doesn't want to govern it, he wants to revolutionize it pursuant to the ill-conceived fantasies of rightist doctrine. Don't you ever get tired of your extremist hyperbole? I mean, do you actually think anyone's impressed by your ranting and babbling? I might not think much of Martin, or for that matter, Chretien, but I would never say they despised Canada. Why don't you stop your shrill accusations and calm down a little? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Guest eureka Posted April 17, 2005 Report Posted April 17, 2005 Sweal, in my opinion. is correct. Harper does despise Canada as it is and wants to remake it in an American image. What was it that Harper called Canada? A " second tier, Socialistic" country," I believe. He wants to privatize healthcare; further "refine" the tax system to favour his friends in business and the idle rich; diminish the federal government; gut our social programmes; renege on Kyoto; generally to destroy Canada as a good place to live. Does that not demonstrate some degree of distaste for Canada? Harper is the furthest thing from a Conservative. He is a radical (in the worst sense of the word) populist who cares only for his own ideological preferences. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted April 17, 2005 Report Posted April 17, 2005 Mr Martin will be the next PM of a Majority Liberal Gov't. The Canadian people (well almost all of them ) are a damn sight smarter than our American friends me thinks. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Argus Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 Sweal, in my opinion. is correct. Harper does despise Canada as it is and wants to remake it in an American image.Infantile drivel.What was it that Harper called Canada? A " second tier, Socialistic" country," I believe.I think under any reasonable evaluation you would have to be pretty generous to call Canada second tier. It's more like third tier, behind important and powerful countries like Germany and France and the U.K.He wants to privatize healthcare;No, he wants to add private care to the mix, to allow for more private money in the system in order to improve the public system. I don't know if that will work. I do know that ten years of Paul Martin's neglect and the looming crisis as the boomers age needs to be addressed, and that the Liberals are not addressing it.further "refine" the tax system to favour his friends in business and the idle richI know you're deluded, but I'd honestly like to know where you get the idea that he has more friends in business than Paul Martin. I'd also like to know how you gloss over Paul Martin's manipulation of of government tax laws to favour his own companies, and why you don't offer a peep of protest at how he's directed contracts to those companies and then lied about it.diminish the federal government; gut our social programmes;I can't recall the Tories, or even Harper ever talking about the need to gut social programs. Nor can I honestly see where they could, given that the provinces are largely in charge of social programs. The only thing he could actually do would be to reduce transfer payments - as Paul Martin did for so many years. Wait! Does this mean Paul Martin gutted socfial programs!?renege on Kyoto; generally to destroy Canada as a good place to live.Do you really think Paul Martin and his Liberals have any intention whatever of trying to live up to the Kyoto Accords? Geeeeez.Does that not demonstrate some degree of distaste for Canada?I'm afraid it demonstrates more about your illogic than it does about his hatred for Canada. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 Mr Martin will be the next PM of a Majority Liberal Gov't. The Canadian people (well almost all of them ) are a damn sight smarter than our American friends me thinks. And they showed this by voting for Jean Chretien, right? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
The Terrible Sweal Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 [nonsense, whinging, drivel] Argus, don't you ever get tired of typing out your farts? Quote
Argus Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 [nonsense, whinging, drivel] Argus, don't you ever get tired of typing out your farts? I imagine with your head lodged so deep within your rectal cavity almost everything looks and smells alike to you. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Bakunin Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 There is something funny with our political system. We could have an extreme right president and it doesnt mean the country would be more to the right. why ? cause we have 2 government. Its the stupidity of the system. Even the most extreme right government wouldn't make quebec more to the right cause the only thing that would change is that the provincial government would do the job the federal government decide not to do. But on the other hand, a left federal party have more impact, it force the province more to the right like alberta to be more to the left so since i respect albertan i will never vote for a left wing government even if im a social democrate. So in other word even if im not conservative and i hate their social view, i think harper would be the best prime minister that we can have right now ( considering the bloc have no chance to form a government ). The worst thing that can and prolly will happend is bad international politics. Quote
Guest eureka Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 You are reaching the point of meriting no respnse. You have no argument for anything: you merely think that throwing out insults will cover your ignorance. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 Hey! WHAT ABOUT JACK LAYTON!? :angry: ...I kid, I kid. Quote
Bakunin Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 You are reaching the point of meriting no respnse. You have no argument for anything: you merely think that throwing out insults will cover your ignorance. was that directed to me ? Quote
The Terrible Sweal Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 [nonsense, whinging, drivel] Argus, don't you ever get tired of typing out your farts? I imagine with your head lodged so deep within your rectal cavity almost everything looks and smells alike to you. A simple 'no' would have sufficed. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 You are reaching the point of meriting no respnse. You have no argument for anything: you merely think that throwing out insults will cover your ignorance. He addressed each one of your points with a very clear response. How this shows he has no argument for anything is beyond me. Nor were they direct insults. Your response on the otherhand is the verbose equivalent of saying, "you're worthless." A verbal tapout, if I've ever seen one. Quote
Argus Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 You are reaching the point of meriting no respnse. You have no argument for anything: you merely think that throwing out insults will cover your ignorance. I have not changed at all. Unfortunately, the genuine prospect of a Conservative government is making you and a few others become even more shrill, bitter and spiteful in your paranoid delusions about conservatives than is your norm. If you don't like my pointing this out there are two simple solutions: Grow up. Leave. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
August1991 Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 [nonsense, whinging, drivel] Argus, don't you ever get tired of typing out your farts? I imagine with your head lodged so deep within your rectal cavity almost everything looks and smells alike to you. A simple 'no' would have sufficed. Amen. ---- Some people seem to have a kind of bizarre, emotional attachment to the Liberal Party. To them, it really seems that if the Liberals are not government, the sky will fall. (I can't believe a fear or loathing of Harper solely drives this. Can one of you Liberal supporters explain this to me?) Quote
Shakeyhands Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 Some people seem to have a kind of bizarre, emotional attachment to the Liberal Party. To them, it really seems that if the Liberals are not government, the sky will fall.(I can't believe a fear or loathing of Harper solely drives this. Can one of you Liberal supporters explain this to me?) We simply remember BM's Gov't. nuff said. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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