Iknowbest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 When an immigrant arrives in Canada Quebec has the right to decide who they will take as landed immigrants but the rest of Canada's Provinces doesn't have that right. It gets even better. Any immigrant who ends up in all Canadian Provinces except Quebec receives a one time payment of $800. If that immigrant ends up in Quebec they receive a one time payment of $3,800. WHY? Because the corrupt Liberal Government in Ottawa allowed that to happen so that Quebec can continue to rip us taxpaying Canadians off and the jerks on Parliament Hill continue to buy votes and receive donations to their coffers. Hey vote Liberal, support corruption, support socialism, help destroy our Health Care System and our Military by voting Liberal. Terrific !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Any immigrant who ends up in all Canadian Provinces except Quebec receives a one time payment of $800. I'm an immigrant and I never got a one-time payment of anything. In fact, the whole immigration process cost me over $2,000, none of which is refundable. And looking at the Immigration-Quebec website I see absolutely no mention of payments, only of fees. When I applied for my immigration, the forms I used just had slightly different payment amounts and payment schedule in Quebec. Do you have some kind of source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iknowbest Posted March 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 You may find it somewhere in Immigration Canada. The money is not given directly to the immigrant it is given to the respective Provincial Government and they dispose of it as they see fit. The numbers are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 You may find it somewhere in Immigration Canada. Show it to me. I have been all over Immigration Canada's website and documents in my own personal immigration experience and I have never heard of it. My immigration lawyer never mentioned it either. The money is not given directly to the immigrant it is given to the respective Provincial Government and they dispose of it as they see fit. Well, that's a completely different concept, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iknowbest Posted March 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 I got this info from some friends of mine who have been in Canada for about 6 years. I checked it out by e-mailing an info request to my Member of Parliaments office and they confirmed the information to be correct. I recommend that you check with your MP and go from there. Sounds like you got ripped off. Sorry to hear that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 I recommend that you check with your MP and go from there. My MP is an idiot. Is yours an idiot too? Sounds like you got ripped off. Sorry to hear that. You just said the immigrant doesn't get the money! Which is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iknowbest Posted March 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 My previous one was but this one is quite ok. The replies usually don't come from the MP him/herself it comes from the staff who works in the office and most of them are pretty good, it is their bosses that are suspect or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eureka Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Perhaps you did not see my post of some weeks ago in another thread. There I posted about the "sweet deal" that Quebec gets. You may also want to check your facts on this instead of allowing your hatred of Liberals to take over your mind (?). It was Mulroney who gave the deal to Quebec, as I said in that post, as part of his purchase of Quebec votes. It fitted nicely with Meech Lake and some other destructive initiatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caesar Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 I got this info from some friends of mine who have been in Canada for about 6 years. I checked it out by e-mailing an info request to my Member of Parliaments office and they confirmed the information to be correct. Then you should have the confirmation available on your email eh. I know best; not from the sounds of your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 I got this info from some friends of mine who have been in Canada for about 6 years. I checked it out by e-mailing an info request to my Member of Parliaments office and they confirmed the information to be correct. Then you should have the confirmation available on your email eh. I know best; not from the sounds of your posts. eureka has vouched for what IKB says, caesar. Why are you so skeptical? Do you really doubt that Quebec was given a special deal regarding immigrants? I can't imagine why that would be much of a surprise... -kimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneck Yokel Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Only in Canada do you have the losers of a war being treated better than the victors. Only in Canada do you ask yourself, "Where are the rights of the majority?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbacon Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 The Provinces should be the ones in charge of all immigration as this is were the immigrant ends up, and gets all their services from not Ottawa. Instead of Ottawa allowing in thousands each year the Provinces could come up with lists of people and skills needed in each Province and ask Ottawa to seek out these people. Immigration is a priveledge not a right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunata Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 No, immigration should stay federal. But the feds should not be giving Quebec or any other province different deals. What's good for one should be good for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawasakm Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 eureka has vouched for what IKB says, caesar. Why are you so skeptical? Caesar has every right to ask other posters to back up their claims. Its not a question of right or wrong its a question of providing the necessary information to support a position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caesar Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 The statements are vague and varied. I think some of what they are referring to is refugees; they are lumping all immigrants in with refugees. Most immigrants pay heavily for various procedures to allow them to live and work in Canada. Most immigrants would not be eligible for government funds. They need to have people who agree to sponsor them and take responsibility for their support to be allowed to enter Canada (or have sufficient funds themselves) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbacon Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 The extended family class of immigrant is were most of the problems occur. One good immigrant gets in and is allowed to sponsor a long list of others, they are supposed to take responsibilty for these people but many don't and the taxpayer and healthcare systems are overwhelmed with them. I think extended family class immigration needs to be ended except in special cases. Immigration is a priveledge not a right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iknowbest Posted March 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 The statements are vague and varied. I think some of what they are referring to is refugees; they are lumping all immigrants in with refugees. Most immigrants pay heavily for various procedures to allow them to live and work in Canada. Most immigrants would not be eligible for government funds. They need to have people who agree to sponsor them and take responsibility for their support to be allowed to enter Canada (or have sufficient funds themselves) I am not mixing refugees with immigrants. What I stated about Quebec and the rest of Canada ref: immigrants is fact. If the facts and truth bother you then you are either a Liberal or an NDPer. Since you mention refugees we have over 37,000 of them all over Ontario and some in other parts of Canada that no one can find. Many of them should not be here because the majority of them cheated their way in thanks to the Liberals. This is not liberal bashing this is another statement of truth about that incompetent corrupt political party. So do we have refugees that are terrorists in this country? Probably a few thousand. Do we have refugees that are criminals such as drug runners, rapists, murderers etc? Probably a few thousand. Do we have refugees that came to Canada so that they could illegally enter the United States? Probably a few thousand. So who is guilty of this classic stupidity? LIBERALS !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eureka Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 When you can bring yourself to admot that it was Mulroney who gave Quebec the deal, you may acquire a little credibility. Not much, though since you now do the immigrant bashing to cover your error. What a bunch of low lifes the Forum is gathering in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iknowbest Posted March 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 When you can bring yourself to admot that it was Mulroney who gave Quebec the deal, you may acquire a little credibility.Not much, though since you now do the immigrant bashing to cover your error. What a bunch of low lifes the Forum is gathering in. Brian was not my favorite either. Remember I worked for every lying sob of political leaders from Quebec except Martin who is a do do bird. Mulroney did not make that deal with Quebec. Chretien on the other hand paid $500 million of our tax dollars to stop a contract for helicopters for our military. Chretien believed in flying coffins for our military and he turned out to be right. What a friggin lying jerk. Brian he reduced the deficit that pinko Trudeau gave us from $460 Billion down to 280 Billion. That was about the only thing that Mulroney did right. ALL POLITICAL LEADERS AND MP'S FROM QUEBEC ARE CORRUPT !! 100% CORRUPT & INCOMPETENT !! FACT !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eureka Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Mulroney did make the deal with Quebec. You obviously do not have the background you claim to have or you would know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbacon Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Mulroney made the deal with Quebec about allowing Quebec to pick their own immigrants, that is true, but all Provinces should do the same. Quebec is right to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caesar Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Brian he reduced the deficit that pinko Trudeau gave us from $460 Billion down to 280 Billion. That was about the only thing that Mulroney did right. Mulroney did not decrease the deficit. He increased the deficit by that figure. The deficit was only reduced under the Chretien/Martin regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Miss Trudeau Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Mulroney made the deal with Quebec about allowing Quebec to pick their own immigrants, that is true, but all Provinces should do the same. Quebec is right to do that. And do we then limit the mobility of Canadian citizens between provinces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caesar Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 So do we have refugees that are terrorists in this country? Probably a few thousand. Do we have refugees that are criminals such as drug runners, rapists, murderers etc? Probably a few thousand. Do we have refugees that came to Canada so that they could illegally enter the United States? Probably a few thousand. Argue facts not fiction or whatever suits your warped outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbacon Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 You miss the point Trudeau. The reason for immigration is for the needs of the Provinces, not the needs of Pottawa to get votes. And since once the immigrant/refugee is released into a Province and the initial pittance is paid by Pottawa the taxpayers of said Province must pay the freight for evermore for said immigrant/refugee. Hence the immigration levels and needs should be set by the Province according to the numbers and skills needed in that Province not just Pottawa picking numbers and people willy nilly as they choose. This would also get rid of those who deal in human flesh the Immigration consultants. Remember Immigration is a priveledge and not a right. When said immigrant arrives in Canada they should not have voting rights at all until they have been here for 10 years and demonstrated that except in exceptional cases they have not been a burden on the tax payers of Canada. The extended family class were one good immigrant is selected and he then brings in uncles aunts brothers grandpa and cousins should end immediately most of these people do not honor their pledge to maintain their extended families. It should also be law that they recieve no free healthcare until they have paid taxes for at least 10 years and no free healthcare for any extended family members let them buy insurance. If they can't afford insurance they should not be here getting free healthcare at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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