Hal 9000 Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Actually, it's hysterical. Seeing as how he leapt to fame by saying there would be 'compelled speech' and now that that hasn't happened, he's moving on to the next thing. He's such a basic thinker, and an alarmist. Unfortunately, his calm manner masks his true objective, which is to generate attention and money for himself. WoW! You do know who we're talking about...right? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Argus said: It's good you can read people's motivations even though you've never met them and don't listen to them. That's quite a talent. Can you otherwise explain why an academic who was ostensibly rejected, would accept $1M a year and commit to personal appearances with a disruptable rag ? I think he sees his days at UofT as numbered. I don't think that he is being treated fairly, but he's not fighting the good fight either. He is taking dirty money. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: WoW! You do know who we're talking about...right? Mr. $1M a year, attending mixers for the anti-Jewish online news, yes. I don't think he's a virulent racist, I just think he hangs out with them. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Michael Hardner said: Can you otherwise explain why an academic who was ostensibly rejected, would accept $1M a year and commit to personal appearances with a disruptable rag ? I think he sees his days at UofT as numbered. I don't think that he is being treated fairly, but he's not fighting the good fight either. He is taking dirty money. The money isn't coming from the Rebel. The Rebel merely organized a crowdfunding thing to replace the normal grants he's been getting forever, which he and others believe were cut because of political correctness. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Michael Hardner said: Mr. $1M a year, attending mixers for the anti-Jewish online news, yes. I don't think he's a virulent racist, I just think he hangs out with them. The Rebel is an anti-Jewish web site run by a Jew? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Argus said: The Rebel is an anti-Jewish web site run by a Jew? Strange, isn't it ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: Strange, isn't it ? Can you point to anything it's written which is antisemitic? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Hal 9000 Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) As far as he's gone in the religious debate is acknowledge that western society is rooted in a christian belief system, he has also said in regards to God, that "he lives his life "as if there is a God". He generally looks at the bible and Christianity for the moral stories (both good and bad) that are presented and breaks them down into a sociological meaning. Edited February 6, 2018 by Hal 9000 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
GostHacked Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Posted February 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Argus said: Can you point to anything it's written which is antisemitic? As far as I can tell they are very anti-islamic. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Posted February 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Can you otherwise explain why an academic who was ostensibly rejected, would accept $1M a year and commit to personal appearances with a disruptable rag ? I think he sees his days at UofT as numbered. I don't think that he is being treated fairly, but he's not fighting the good fight either. He is taking dirty money. 1 Mill a year? Have not heard that before. Peterson lost federal funding and The Rebel picked up the tab. Again I will note that is something Argus pointed out, but you seem to keep misrepresenting the fact. https://thevarsity.ca/2017/05/01/jordan-petersons-federal-funding-denied-rebel-media-picks-up-the-tab/ Quote Ezra Levant, founder and self-described “Rebel Commander” of The Rebel Media, spearheaded an Indiegogo campaign to raise the first year’s worth of funding, $73,325, for Peterson’s research team within a 30-day period. The Indiegogo project reached its goal in one day. The next goal was to raise an additional $82,325 to support the second year of research, which the campaign has also reached. That's a little lower than your claimed 1 million per year. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Argus said: The Rebel merely organized a crowdfunding thing to replace the normal grants he's been getting forever, which he and others believe were cut because of political correctness. Let's break this down - The Rebel crowd funded him because his grants were cut. And they have a reception starring JP, which is mutually beneficial. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, Argus said: Can you point to anything it's written which is antisemitic? It was paywalled podcast. I think I heard about it here: http://www.canadalandshow.com/rebel-media-hosts-antisemitism/ Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, Argus said: like every left wing group which engages in identity politics That sounds more like people being offended rather than purposeful disunification, as I discussed with BCSapper. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, GostHacked said: 1 Mill a year? Have not heard that before. Peterson lost federal funding and The Rebel picked up the tab. Argus was saying The Rebel DIDN'T pick it up, though. They merely promoted a go-fund-me type thing. Or something. 16 minutes ago, GostHacked said: That's a little lower than your claimed 1 million per year. His Patreon page is estimated to make about $70K US per month. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Guest Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 39 minutes ago, Argus said: Ironically, there is an interview with him in the Post today and in it he's asked if he believes in God. His answer was I think the proper response to that is No, but I’m afraid He might exist. So I'm a bit curious about what you're talking about. Not God. Religion. I'll see if I can find an example of what I'm talking about as I don't remember where I heard/read them. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: WoW! You do know who we're talking about...right? I have already informed the others who are arguing on JP's behalf. Let me know if I can be of assistance. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
GostHacked Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Posted February 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: That sounds more like people being offended rather than purposeful disunification, as I discussed with BCSapper. You sound more offended upset than the rest of us posting in this thread. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Posted February 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Argus was saying The Rebel DIDN'T pick it up, though. They merely promoted a go-fund-me type thing. Or something. His Patreon page is estimated to make about $70K US per month. Yes he has a Patreon account and people give to that willingly. As he states, all his material is online for free. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, GostHacked said: You sound more offended upset than the rest of us posting in this thread. I'm not offended at all. I'm disappointed that we lost an opportunity to set up a discussion with a newly defined, post-social-media 'public'. Really it's too bad it went this way. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
GostHacked Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm not offended at all. I'm disappointed that we lost an opportunity to set up a discussion with a newly defined, post-social-media 'public'. Really it's too bad it went this way. The discussion is still going on. I think it is a matter of some not wanting to participate. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, GostHacked said: The discussion is still going on. I think it is a matter of some not wanting to participate. Yes. And because JP sold out to the bubblesphere, he has put his reputation on the skids and alienated many who will never listen to him. That's his fault. If he wanted to reach out he could have done. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: It was paywalled podcast. I think I heard about it here: http://www.canadalandshow.com/rebel-media-hosts-antisemitism/ That's not much to go on Gavin McInnes: We’re here in Israel, where we’re supposed to be brainwashed by Kim Jong-Ezra Levant… Sounds like he's mocking Ezra, or joking with him/about him? Much of this sounds like they're drunk, frankly, and just spouting stuff to be seen as cocky and politically incorrect. And most of what Mccinnes says about Jews he's also saying about Christians. In any case, this guy is no longer with the Rebel, nor is Goldy. Seems kinda slim to call the site anti-Semitic. And bear in mind I don't ever visit The Rebel so I'm not closely familiar with it. But I also don't have a dog in this show. I'm not a huge fan of Peterson, though I think he's a lot smarter than The Rebel. Edited February 6, 2018 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Posted February 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Yes. And because JP sold out to the bubblesphere, he has put his reputation on the skids and alienated many who will never listen to him. That's his fault. If he wanted to reach out he could have done. What's the bubblesphere?? And as far as I can tell his reputation gets better all the time. I mean you should really watch that 30 minute bit from the UK's Channel 4. His reputation surely increased with good standing after the Lindsay Sheppard incident at WLU. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 45 minutes ago, GostHacked said: What's the bubblesphere?? I refer to bubbles of influence, wherein people just communicate with those who agree with them. 46 minutes ago, GostHacked said: And as far as I can tell his reputation gets better all the time. Do you have a cite ? 46 minutes ago, GostHacked said: His reputation surely increased with good standing after the Lindsay Sheppard incident at WLU. Why ? That had nothing to do with him. Some profs acted beyond their authority and misunderstood his points - how does that increase his reputation "with good standing" ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 53 minutes ago, Argus said: I'm not a huge fan of Peterson, though I think he's a lot smarter than The Rebel. Exactly. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
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