The difference between state and public broadcasting.

[Smallc]

On 11/22/2016 at 0:20 AM, bush_cheney2004 said:

Canada's state broadcaster has finally figured it out too.....Democrats in decline:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/democratic-party-future-election-1.3850194

Would you please explain why you call the CBC Canada's state broadcaster?  

 

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Smallc said:

Would you please explain why you call the CBC Canada's state broadcaster?  

 

 

Because that's what it is.   Television and radio....funded mostly by the Canadian government. 

[Smallc]

Since this is state sponsored thread drift, I will carry this further.  Are you aware of the differences between a state broadcaster and a public broadcaster?

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Smallc said:

Since this is state sponsored thread drift, I will carry this further.  Are you aware of the differences between a state broadcaster and a public broadcaster?

 

Yes, but this is off topic.   Please start another thread if you wish to pursue further.

[Smallc]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Yes, but this is off topic.   Please start another thread if you wish to pursue further.

I told you, it was state sponsored thread drift - I'll move the question someplace better.

[Smallc]

I don't understand the difference.  Someone please explain it to me.

[Smallc]

@bush_cheney2004 your explanation would be very helpful, as I don't understand why you incorrectly refer to CBC as a state broadcaster.

[bush_cheney2004]

My explanation is irrelevant....the Canadian government's complicity in sponsored and controlled radio/television broadcasting is well documented.   The history and regulatory function originally existed as a counter to foreign cultural influence (mostly American).

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...We call CBC state broadcaster cuz its funded by the state. NPR is public broadcaster cuz funding mostly by donations solicited from public.

https://afewtastefulsnaps.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/fair-to-call-cbc-state-broadcaster/

 

Other examples in popular media:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/6615/canadas-government-news-lies-about-orlando-robert-kraychik

https://www.newcoldwar.org/another-news-host-at-canadas-state-broadcaster-fired-in-disgrace/

http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCAKBN0OQ04V20150610

 

[Omni]

26 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

My explanation is irrelevant....the Canadian government's complicity in sponsored and controlled radio/television broadcasting is well documented.   The history and regulatory function originally existed as a counter to foreign cultural influence (mostly American).

 

Other examples in popular media:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/6615/canadas-government-news-lies-about-orlando-robert-kraychik

https://www.newcoldwar.org/another-news-host-at-canadas-state-broadcaster-fired-in-disgrace/

http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCAKBN0OQ04V20150610

 

Publicly funded, not state controlled. Perhaps you spend too much time listening to Fox.

[bush_cheney2004]

Reuters knows a state broadcaster when it sees one.....

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TORONTO (Reuters) - Canada's state broadcaster said it dismissed a political show host on Tuesday after a media report alleged he had received commissions from art sales to big-name guests on his show, such as Bank of England Governor Mark Carney, in violation of company policy.

http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCAKBN0OQ04V20150610

 

 

Reuters is a division of Thomson Reuters Corp., legal domicile is Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

[Omni]

9 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Reuters knows a state broadcaster when it sees one.....

 

Reuters is a division of Thomson Reuters Corp., legal domicile is Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

You see Fox would never do that. We keep things clean here.

[Smallc]

Of course the difference between a state broadcaster and a public broadcaster is that the second enjoys journalistic and editorial freedom.  The first doesn't.  Your continuing to call it a state broadcaster is a complete misrepresentation.

[bush_cheney2004]

Canada's state broadcaster (CBC) organization starts with government appointed and controlled board:

 

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There shall be a Board of Directors of the Corporation consisting of twelve directors, including the Chairperson and the President, to be appointed by the GIC, to hold office during good behaviour for a term not exceeding five years and may be removed at any time by the GIC for cause. By statute, the President is full-time and the Chairperson is part-time. The Chairperson and the President are eligible for re-appointment on the expiration of any term of office, but any other director who has served two consecutive terms is not, during the twelve months following the completion of the second term, eligible for reappointment, except as Chairperson or President.  If a director is not appointed to take office on the expiration of the term of an incumbent director, the incumbent director continues in office until a successor is appointed.

https://www.appointments-nominations.gc.ca/prflOrg.asp?OrgID=CBC&lang=eng

 

[Smallc]

Do you have any evidence that the CBC lacks journalistic and editorial independence? 

[bush_cheney2004]

16 minutes ago, Smallc said:

Do you have any evidence that the CBC lacks journalistic and editorial independence? 

 

Sure...here 'ya go:

https://ravingcanuck.com/2016/10/17/cbc-bungles-upcoming-rollout-of-opinion-section-by-publishing-liberal-mps-staffers-spin-piece/

http://www.nunatsiaqonline.ca/archives/nunavut990228/editorial.html

http://www.cjr.org/feature/jesse_brown_punctures_canadas.php

...easy to find lots more.   Just use America's Google.

[Smallc]

So you have opinion pieces.

 

American Google isn't the subject here.

[bush_cheney2004]

8 minutes ago, Smallc said:

So you have opinion pieces.

American Google isn't the subject here.

 

America's Google yields many instances of CBC government dependence and influence.  Is there an equivalent Canadian search engine I should be using ?   I've never heard of one....

Government funding is vital to the CBC's very existence.

The CBC is Canada's state broadcaster.

 

Edited December 23, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

[Omni]

31 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

America's Google yields many instances of CBC government dependence and influence.  Is there an equivalent Canadian search engine I should be using ?   I've never heard of one....

Government funding is vital to the CBC's very existence.

The CBC is Canada's state broadcaster.

 

It's a Crown Corporation which is a public broadcaster. As such it doesn't have to spin it's stories to suit it's sponsors such as many American commercial broadcasters. Fox (Faux) would be a good example. 

[bush_cheney2004]

2 hours ago, Omni said:

It's a Crown Corporation which is a public broadcaster. As such it doesn't have to spin it's stories to suit it's sponsors such as many American commercial broadcasters. Fox (Faux) would be a good example. 

 

Correct...it is a state broadcaster that spins stories to assure continued state funding and preferences.   Fox News is not funded by taxpayers.

[Omni]

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Correct...it is a state broadcaster that spins stories to assure continued state funding and preferences.   Fox News is not funded by taxpayers.

A public broadcaster that will be funded by whichever government is in power and doesn't have to spin stories to suit a boardroom table.

[Bryan]

CBC absolutely is a state broadcaster. It's owned by the state, it's funded by the state, its board is appointed by the state, its very reason for being is mandated by the state.

[Smallc]

And yet it doesn't meet the definition of state broadcaster.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Both Harper and Chrétien would be surprised to hear they had control of Terry Milewski. 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/terry-milewski-an-equal-opportunity-offender/article585398/

http://oldfraser.lexi.net/publications/forum/1999/01/milewski.html

https://bcblue.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/video-cbcs-milewski-turns-screw-on-iggy-about-interview-with-sikh-extremist/

 

Edited February 3, 2017 by SpankyMcFarland