Immigration of religious fanatics

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

Check what's going on with the war crimes against the Palestinians and then tell me what is the rationale that is used if not religion? You tell me.

I haven't been keeping up on it, but when I do, it seems it's usually about land or retaliation.  I don't remember religion being involved in the general Israeli attitude towards Palestinians. 

I do understand that every now and then some Jewish nutcase loses it and takes stuff into his own hands. I put that up there with the Hebdo shootings.

So you didn't answer my question.  Do you?

Edited December 18, 2016 by bcsapper
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction - Blaise Pascal

[Canadianjim]

Just now, bcsapper said:

I haven't been keeping up on it, but when I do, it seems it's usually about land or retaliation.  I don't remember religion being involved in the general Israeli attitude towards Palestinians. 

I do understand that every now and then some Jewish nutcase loses it and takes stuff into his own hands. I put that up there with the Hebdo shootings.

So you didn't answer my question.  Do you?

I am sorry but if your don't know what's going on over there , no point in us discussing it because i follow it very closely.

[Guest]

Just now, Canadianjim said:

I am sorry but if your don't know what's going on over there , no point in us discussing it because i follow it very closely.

Well, the whole point of this place is discussion.  If you know something the other poster doesn't (after all, who knows everything?) you get to point it out.

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

I am sorry but if your don't know what's going on over there , no point in us discussing it because i follow it very closely.

 

Then you'll know the Arabs started the Arab-Israeli war after listening to a Nazi fleeing the noose post WW2.

Probably a bad idea in hindsight. Peace would have been the preferred choice.

[Argus]

18 hours ago, Omni said:

People can think what they like, but they must obey the law or face the consequences. I haven't heard of any Syrian refugees burning jews.

Nor KKK members. So you're okay with importing tens of thousands of KKK members every year right?

[Canadianjim]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

Nor KKK members. So you're okay with importing tens of thousands of KKK members every year right?

Excuse me. Have you ever looked up the phrase .."false equivalency? or even try "logical fallacy"

[Argus]

15 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

I made no such argument. I despise all religions and all evil in the name of a religion. 

Odd, you sound like a zealot.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Canadianjim said:

Excuse me. Have you ever looked up the phrase .."false equivalency? or even try "logical fallacy"

Not a lot of difference between the KKK and Islam.

[DogOnPorch]

49 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

I don't support it nor do I condemn it.  And for my views I deffer to you, since you think you know my thoughts. I will gladly let you misrepresent my stance.

Fence sitters get a picket for a close friend.

[Canadianjim]

3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Not a lot of difference between the KKK and Islam.

Thanks for confirming  my post and your racism.

[DogOnPorch]

Islam nor the KKK are 'races'.

[Argus]

14 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

Good post.... 

Quite! It well-illustrates the appalling level of ignorance of the knee-jerk reactionary leftists who are so eager to support any and all immigration and refugees. 

Let's see, in the cite we have a chamber of commerce guy who represents business, which always benefits from more people, regardless of who those people are. We have an academic who seems to believe the refugees are predominately middle class despite all evidence suggesting they are mostly very poor, rural and uneducated folks, and another academic who says that the Vietnamese who came here did well. Note, the Syrians are not the Vietnamese. Then we have those hoary old cliches about needing immigrants because of an impending labour shortage - which has been repeatedly proven to be a lie, and needing immigrants to offset an aging population, which has also been repeatedly proven unworkable by demographics experts.

All in all, a cite of complete ignorance which the completely ignorant can wave aloft in support of their ignorant ideological support of mass immigration.

[herples]

The KKK are white supremacists and Islam is a religion I would say that is a big difference.  

Edited December 18, 2016 by herples

[Argus]

14 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

Mathew 5:17 says Jesus disagrees with you. And if you don't think religion doesn't  support atrocities today, better see what's being done to  the palestinians. Paid for by Christians dollars.

Please don't introduce your Jew hatred into this topic. There are many other topics available to those who despise Jews.

As for your denial of the obvious truth that there is no support of Christian theocratic rule but massive worldwide support for Sharia law and Islamic rule, one can only ascribe that to extreme ideological blindness.

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, herples said:

The KKK are white supremacists and Islam is a religion I would say that is a big difference.  

The KKK claim to be a Protestant Christian organization specifically to counter Catholics and Jews both viewed as Carpetbaggers.

Edited December 18, 2016 by DogOnPorch

[Argus]

12 hours ago, Canadianjim said:

You quoted the book. I quoted the book. What else have you got?

How about tens of thousands of terrorist attacks in the name of Islam in the last fifteen years all across the world? How about the fact the only immigrants to Canada, the US or Europe who have committed mass violence in the name of either political or religious beliefs are Muslims? How about the fact that the only religiously inspired violence committed in Canada comes from Muslims. How about, you know, reality?

Edited December 18, 2016 by Argus

[Argus]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

Then stop being a hypocrite. I'm staunchly anti-religion...either you despise Islam or you do not.

You don't understand. When a left winger says they despise religions they only mean Christianity and Judaism. If you dare to point out the flaws in any other religion or the behaviour of its adherents these self-same people will race frantically to put their noble bodies before you and the target of your disdain, and spend themselves defending those same religious people they earlier claimed to despise.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

No, you are very anti-muslim based on what you've posted in regards to religion. Yo don't spend the time on other religions like you do with Islam.

Other religions aren't slaughtering people by the trainload.

[herples]

 

6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

The KKK claim to be a Protestant Christian organization specifically to counter Catholics and Jews both viewed as Carpetbaggers.

The KKK originally was against the freed black slaves and to keep the them from voting. Around the 1920's there was a shift towards Catholics and immigration. It's message is the same however, to keep white rule in the south.

Edited December 18, 2016 by herples

[Argus]

26 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

I am sorry but if your don't know what's going on over there , no point in us discussing it because i follow it very closely.

Of course you do. But why? It's two religious groups expressing their hatred for each other far from Canada. 

[Argus]

17 minutes ago, Canadianjim said:

Excuse me. Have you ever looked up the phrase .."false equivalency? or even try "logical fallacy"

Sure. But I see no false equivalency here. KKK members are disliked, generally speaking, because of their anti-social views. Yet the people from the middle east generally share those views, in addition to being violently misogynistic. 

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Argus said:

You don't understand. When a left winger says they despise religions they only mean Christianity and Judaism. If you dare to point out the flaws in any other religion or the behaviour of its adherents these self-same people will race frantically to put their noble bodies before you and the target of your disdain, and spend themselves defending those same religious people they earlier claimed to despise.

 

Religion has its good points: unfortunately they all involve music and architecture

Just now, herples said:

 

The KKK originally was against the freed black slaves and to keep the them from voting. Around the 1920's there was a shift towards Catholics and immigration. 

Uhhhh...nope. The KKK was founded post Civil War to counter Northern influence specifically. Not put freed slaves back in the fields. You're free to read the entire Wikipedia page.

[Canadianjim]

2 minutes ago, Argus said:

Sure. But I see no false equivalency here. KKK members are disliked, generally speaking, because of their anti-social views. Yet the people from the middle east generally share those views, in addition to being violently misogynistic. 

Ok I assume you are  a canadian like me. Guess what the news is now that Canada has WMD'ds . America has accused us. They are now invading. Their bombs have killed my wife and children. They have killed your entire family. They now have your brother in stoney mountain prison torturing him. What are you going to do about it?

[Argus]

15 minutes ago, herples said:

The KKK are white supremacists and Islam is a religion I would say that is a big difference.  

Everything about the cultural value system of the middle east is easily as exclusive as the KKK. Pan Arabism and the entire notion of the "caliphate" and Dar al-Islam excludes anyone who isn't Arab and Muslim. Incidentally, Dar al-Islam means the House of Peace. It is where Muslims rule. The rest of the world, where Muslims don't rule, is called Dar al-Harb, which is The House of War, which are the places Muslims must conquer. There is no cultural or social instinct towards peaceful co-existence, equality and respect for non-Muslims in any of the 57 Muslim countries.

Edited December 18, 2016 by Argus

[DogOnPorch]

Canada did have WMDs for quite a number of years. We bombed Germans in their beds, too. Nice old grannies and pretty young girls...boom.