Trudeau & Feel Good Policies

[Rue]

3 hours ago, Smallc said:

Infrastructure is the best way to promote growth:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/morneaus-economic-growth-council-calls-for-national-infrastructure-bank/article32461740/

Growth of deficits yes. See your short term growth causes far more damage long term with the inflation it sets off.

You think with a deficit as high as it is you can keep interest rates down low?

Using debt to finance growth is like smoking cigarettes to promote weight loss.

 

 

 

 

[Argus]

6 hours ago, Smallc said:

Infrastructure is the best way to promote growth:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/morneaus-economic-growth-council-calls-for-national-infrastructure-bank/article32461740/

 

Bull. The best way to promote growth would be to stop making every single resource producer spend ten years in hearings, filings, investigations and reviews before they could open a freaking mine or build a pipeline.

As for infrastructure, it's clear that you guys aren't doing it. You're just talking about it.

[Smallc]

$186B extra over the next 12 years, on top of the money that the Conservatives already promised.  That seems like a lot of nothing.

[?Impact]

18 hours ago, Argus said:

Bull. The best way to promote growth would be to stop making every single resource producer spend ten years in hearings, filings, investigations and reviews before they could open a freaking mine or build a pipeline.

 

How about every single investor and their children and children's children are up up as collateral if that resource producer leaves a mess. What about all those abandoned oil wells in Alberta, tailing ponds from gold mines in B.C., etc. If you want to invest in some venture that is going to pollute for future generations, then all your future generations will be stripped of their inherited wealth and forced to live on the site you created.

[Argus]

On 11/5/2016 at 2:41 PM, ?Impact said:

 

How about every single investor and their children and children's children are up up as collateral if that resource producer leaves a mess. What about all those abandoned oil wells in Alberta, tailing ponds from gold mines in B.C., etc. If you want to invest in some venture that is going to pollute for future generations, then all your future generations will be stripped of their inherited wealth and forced to live on the site you created.

You want to do away with welfare, pensions, public health care, and all the freeloaders who don't pay taxes? Well, we need to have industries that produce something that we can sell. You damage those industries and all you're left with is ever rising debt. And sooner or later the money to pay those bills runs out and all the freeloaders wind up on the streets.

[?Impact]

24 minutes ago, Argus said:

You want to do away with...

Lots of honest industries out there that don't rely on stealing from future generations. 

[Argus]

6 hours ago, ?Impact said:

Lots of honest industries out there that don't rely on stealing from future generations. 

Mining and lumber don't 'steal' anything. They use resources to make us money. As they've been doing since this country's founding. And we need that money to feed all the loafers and freeloaders we've got now. Too many people expect the government to support them, then want to tell the government how it can make money. Most of those people out protesting pipelines and the like have never worked an honest day in their life and never will.

[?Impact]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

Mining and lumber don't 'steal' anything.

When a gold mine leaves a toxic wasteland in its tailing ponds, that is stealing from future generations. The lumber industry had a very poor history of clearcutting and leading to erosion. Thankfully we have had better regulation in recent years that have helped change those practices, but we still have a long way to go.

[Argus]

12 hours ago, ?Impact said:

When a gold mine leaves a toxic wasteland in its tailing ponds, that is stealing from future generations. The lumber industry had a very poor history of clearcutting and leading to erosion. Thankfully we have had better regulation in recent years that have helped change those practices, but we still have a long way to go.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be regulation, but it's ludicrous how incredibly complex and time-consuming it is to get the government go-ahead on projects which would be enormously beneficial to the workforce and the country's GDP. It should never take more than a year. I can't imagine what the hell they do during these multi-year processes.

[ironstone]

On 11/3/2016 at 8:46 AM, Smallc said:

Wait, are you complaining that the Liberals - lowered - taxes? 

I can assure you that any tax breaks from Trudeau will be dwarfed by his carbon taxes,which really will raise the price of just about everything.