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It's not his place to tell communities that they should like something that isn't in there interest. It's also not his place to support something before the actual review of it, including the interim process that his government just created, is complete. Did Harper cheer leading for pipelines get them built?

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It's not his place to tell communities that they should like something that isn't in there interest.

It's his place to support projects which are in CANADA'S interest. If that means telling Quebecers and natives that we have to get the money for the slops for their trough somewhere, then that's what he should do.

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"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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And interests much be balanced.

Where is the balance between freeloaders who suck at the trough their entire life, and those organizations which are trying to create jobs and wealth?

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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Where is the balance between freeloaders who suck at the trough their entire life, and those organizations which are trying to create jobs and wealth?

You're looking at the wrong teeter-totter. The one to pay attention to is the one with power and wealth sunk into the ground at their end and everyone way up in the air at the other end.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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This story in The Rebel also supports the idea of a guaranteed minimum income.

http://www.therebel.media/3_fiscally_conservative_ideas_tory_leadership

I have been looking at guaranteed minimum income for the last two months. I find the concept fascinating because elements of the far left, far right and libertarians all support the concept.

I am still studying it and hope to start a thread on it very soon.

Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.

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Well there's the old moral imperative to produce but I think that's mostly due to spillage from religious social conservatives and their belief in Satan and what He does with idle hands, above all else it's them who can't stand the idea of a GAI. Capitalists have hitched their bottom line to the moral imperative for obvious reasons but I think they get it that the risk of inspiring a new generation guillotinistas is becoming to much to ignore.

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A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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Canada needs to separate so provincial and regional values can be better realized.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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What policies should the Conservatives Party start putting forward?

I don't think the Conservatives appealed to their base enough....

I think an immediate ban on Muslim immigrants would get a lot of support from the base.

Double-down on the West Coast pipeline... obviously, it's better to force it through than to listen to everyone else, like the BC gov't, First Nations, and communities along the route.

Abortion - clearly a failure of the last gov't. Harper did nothing for the base on this, other than a few token gestures internationally where he screwed over women's health groups.

Gay marriage - Get rid of it. Disband the SCC if they continue the rulings for it.

These are the things to do to shore up the base.

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I don't think the Conservatives appealed to their base enough....

I think an immediate ban on Muslim immigrants would get a lot of support from the base.

Double-down on the West Coast pipeline... obviously, it's better to force it through than to listen to everyone else, like the BC gov't, First Nations, and communities along the route.

Abortion - clearly a failure of the last gov't. Harper did nothing for the base on this, other than a few token gestures internationally where he screwed over women's health groups.

Gay marriage - Get rid of it. Disband the SCC if they continue the rulings for it.

These are the things to do to shore up the base.

On pipelines they already did that. They need more support than just the base and abortion and gay marriage policies will hurt them getting votes.

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I don't think the Conservatives appealed to their base enough....

I think an immediate ban on Muslim immigrants would get a lot of support from the base.

Double-down on the West Coast pipeline... obviously, it's better to force it through than to listen to everyone else, like the BC gov't, First Nations, and communities along the route.

Abortion - clearly a failure of the last gov't. Harper did nothing for the base on this, other than a few token gestures internationally where he screwed over women's health groups.

Gay marriage - Get rid of it. Disband the SCC if they continue the rulings for it.

These are the things to do to shore up the base.

Is every post you make just as unserious and disingenuous as this one? It sure seems like it, why do you even bother?

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I don't think the Conservatives appealed to their base enough....

I think an immediate ban on Muslim immigrants would get a lot of support from the base.

Double-down on the West Coast pipeline... obviously, it's better to force it through than to listen to everyone else, like the BC gov't, First Nations, and communities along the route.

Abortion - clearly a failure of the last gov't. Harper did nothing for the base on this, other than a few token gestures internationally where he screwed over women's health groups.

Gay marriage - Get rid of it. Disband the SCC if they continue the rulings for it.

These are the things to do to shore up the base.

Don't forget the niqab ban and the "snitch" line.

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Is every post you make just as unserious and disingenuous as this one? It sure seems like it, why do you even bother?

Why so serious???

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Explain?

So much is subordinated to globalization now and big governments like our's in Ottawa are so distracted by that it's resulting in less attention being given to local or regional issues. There needs to be more autonomy given to local/regional governments so they can deal with these themselves. Fisheries is a perfect example. Ottawa is almost 1000 miles from the nearest fishery it's responsible for managing and it sure shows.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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So much is subordinated to globalization now and big governments like our's in Ottawa are so distracted by that it's resulting in less attention being given to local or regional issues. There needs to be more autonomy given to local/regional governments so they can deal with these themselves. Fisheries is a perfect example. Ottawa is almost 1000 miles from the nearest fishery it's responsible for managing and it sure shows.

So you're talking about a more decentralized federation, similar to what would have been implemented with the beech lake accord?

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I'd like to see decentralization and co-management with regional or area based management boards. Unfortunately I don't see Ottawa or even provincial governments moving in that direction at all. Pretty much everything is subsumed under central authorities with little to no decision making being allowed outside them.

The only chance I see for anyone achieving regional management in Canada at the moment is native people, especially where modern treaties are unfolding. They enjoy a constitutionally protected opportunity that works well in the smaller territories they have some jurisdiction over.

I've seen what native self-government looks like and I'd sure like some of that myself. I don't subscribe to the idea that I am a self-governing Canadian by means of some polity I'm assumed to have been born into our belong to. I just don't feel it. There's to much that's lacking and I see it in the ongoing degradation of the environment I live in, I struggle with it on the tilted economic playing field I'm expected to compete on and I feel it in mismanagement of politicians who incompetently misgovern me from a distance.

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A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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I think we might start to discuss the feasibility of a minimum guaranteed income for Canadians. It does not have to become policy but would have the media paying attention to us.

We could look at our electoral system. We have recently changed our conditions for membership making it more accountable.

Set an objective criteria for government funding for charity organizations being very specific of what we will fund and what we will not.

Establish what a "terrorist" is according to Canadian criteria. The term has been used as an excuse in many mistaken confrontations and has now lost its definition. Russia and Turkey are currently meeting to decide which groups in the Middle East are terrorists and which are not.

Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.

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I think we might start to discuss the feasibility of a minimum guaranteed income for Canadians.

Set an objective criteria for government funding for charity organizations being very specific of what we will fund and what we will not.

One thing we could do is give in-kind tax breaks and tax grants to people who volunteer.

It seems a little unconscionable to me that so much acrimony exists around people getting something for nothing while so much of our society and economy rely on free labour.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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The CPC still has anti-gay marriage statements in their policy platform.

We support legislation defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman

I wonder if they will remove that clause.

Do you want to be a bigot? The CPC has you covered! Just be religious!

...beliefs of a faith based organization be excluded from the definition of disallowed discrimination under Human Rights.

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