Topaz Posted November 30, 2015 Report Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) The PM is set to make some changes in the House and many of them are what the Tory MP Chan wanted done by his party. One item is to have one day set aside for MPs to ask questions of the PM like they do in Britain. This should be a very interesting to watch this happening over here and how a sense of humour, may be needed at times. http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/2015/11/29/trudeau-era-to-start-with-sweeping-parliamentary-reforms-empowerment-of-mps.html Edited November 30, 2015 by Charles Anthony fixed link Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted November 30, 2015 Report Posted November 30, 2015 Some other highlights of changes: The committee will also be asked to consider ways to make the Commons more "family friendly," including changing the sitting hours, holding votes earlier in the day and doing away with Friday sittings. members of each committee will elect their own chairs and vice-chairs, rather than have them appointed by the prime minister. The text of the throne speech itself - expected to be a short, factual recitation of the government's priorities, recapping the highlights of the Liberal election platform with minimal rhetorical flourishes. The House of Commons will sit for a week before taking an extended Christmas break, just long enough to pass a motion putting into effect two of the central platform planks: a tax cut for middle-income earners and tax hike for the wealthiest one per cent. He'll move to reconstitute the procedure and House affairs committee, with a request that it "quickly" make recommendations on the best way to deliver on Trudeau's vow to set aside one question period each week for MPs to grill the prime minister, as is done in the United Kingdom. Given the whole point is to make the prime minister more accountable, LeBlanc said he doesn't want to impose question period changes on opposition parties. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
overthere Posted November 30, 2015 Report Posted November 30, 2015 just curious, but 95% of MPs are not from Ottawa and presumably don't have their families there. What is the point of that initiative? There is no need to repeat the fatuous wankery of a campaign. The purpose of the throne speech is to state their legislative agenda, not the puffery from the campaign. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
WestCoastRunner Posted November 30, 2015 Report Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) double post Edited November 30, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted November 30, 2015 Report Posted November 30, 2015 I am assuming many MPs travel home on weekends, hence the Friday's off. Also, most MPs probably communicate with their families via FaceTime, Skype etc and given the time zones in a country this size I bet it can be an added difficulty.l] Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted November 30, 2015 Report Posted November 30, 2015 Del Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Smallc Posted November 30, 2015 Report Posted November 30, 2015 just curious, but 95% of MPs are not from Ottawa and presumably don't have their families there. What is the point of that initiative? There is no need to repeat the fatuous wankery of a campaign. The purpose of the throne speech is to state their legislative agenda, not the puffery from the campaign. Their campaign platform is their legislative agenda Quote
Argus Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Their campaign platform is their legislative agenda Right. Because they actually intended to keep all those promises... The CBC reports the Liberals have backtracked significantly on their pledge to reform Access to Information rulesto make it easier for Canadians to track government activities. Before taking office, Justin Trudeau promised to end fees for processing information requests; empower the information commissioner to order documents released and subject ministers to the act. But Trudeau’s mandate letter to Treasury Board President Scott Brison abandons some commitments and weakens other. The promise to cut fees is gone, ministers will only be held to “appropriate” requests and the other pledges are now subject to a “review” to be started sometime next year. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/access-to-information-reforms-review-1.3342584 Edited December 1, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WestCoastRunner Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 Right. Because they actually intended to keep all those promises... The CBC reports the Liberals have backtracked significantly on their pledge to reform Access to Information rulesto make it easier for Canadians to track government activities. Before taking office, Justin Trudeau promised to end fees for processing information requests; empower the information commissioner to order documents released and subject ministers to the act. But Trudeaus mandate letter to Treasury Board President Scott Brison abandons some commitments and weakens other. The promise to cut fees is gone, ministers will only be held to appropriate requests and the other pledges are now subject to a review to be started sometime next year. http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/another-liberal-pledge-gets-trimmed-back-and-other-reasons-to-fear-for-humanity This has nothing to do with changes in the house. Start a new thread. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Smallc Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 This has nothing to do with changes in the house. Start a new thread. It has everything to do with changes in the house. Quote
Smallc Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 Right. Because they actually intended to keep all those promises... The CBC reports the Liberals have backtracked significantly on their pledge to reform Access to Information rulesto make it easier for Canadians to track government activities. Before taking office, Justin Trudeau promised to end fees for processing information requests; empower the information commissioner to order documents released and subject ministers to the act. But Trudeaus mandate letter to Treasury Board President Scott Brison abandons some commitments and weakens other. The promise to cut fees is gone, ministers will only be held to appropriate requests and the other pledges are now subject to a review to be started sometime next year. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/access-to-information-reforms-review-1.3342584 It sounds like there are legalities that came into play. How many promises will be kept is yet to be determined. The spirit of he promise is certainly still alive. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) It has everything to do with changes in the house. Then I stand corrected. As I was typing my response I thought of that. Oh well. Thanks. Edited December 1, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Smoke Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 It sounds like there are legalities that came into play. How many promises will be kept is yet to be determined. The spirit of he promise is certainly still alive. There you go again with that "spirit of the promise" thing. Bottom line is he has lied, deceived, backtracked, misled (whatever you want to call it) on several campaign promises, and yes, this is after only a few weeks in power. Geez, Harper couldn't even sneeze without being labelled a diabolical liar. Quote
Smallc Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 I wasn't one of the people saying those things about Harper. I defended him just as vigorously when he complaints were just as petty. Promises sometimes have to be amended. Things change when you get to look at the books. Quote
Argus Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 I wasn't one of the people saying those things about Harper. I defended him just as vigorously when he complaints were just as petty. Promises sometimes have to be amended. Things change when you get to look at the books. Are you saying they had to change their promise on access to information requests because of the budget deficit? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Smeelious Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 When fees come into play...(it's a pretty weak argument to be sure.) Generally that article doesn't say they won't make the changes, but that they are up for review. When (perhaps not if) the review board comes back and says that they can't make the promised changes, maybe we can come back to it. Quote
Smallc Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 Are you saying they had to change their promise on access to information requests because of the budget deficit? No, that would be because of legal and security realities that become apparent. It's also a lower priority at the moment than other things that they have on their plate. Quote
Argus Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 No, that would be because of legal and security realities that become apparent. It's also a lower priority at the moment than other things that they have on their plate. The legal and security realities of giving people access to the documents and email from the PMO and ministers offices weren't apparent before they got into power? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Smallc Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 The legal and security realities of giving people access to the documents and email from the PMO and ministers offices weren't apparent before they got into power? Did they have access to those documents and the briefings related to them? I have no doubt that most of their promises will be enacted after the review. If they aren't, then we'll have something to complain about. Not everything can be done immediately. Quote
Argus Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 Did they have access to those documents and the briefings related to them? Weren't you the guy pointing out, prior to the election, that Trudeau's lack of experience would be offset by the tremendous breadth and depth of experience of many of his caucus, who had, of course, previously been cabinet ministers? Are you suggesting they... forgot, that some things had to be kept secret? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Smallc Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 Weren't you the guy pointing out, prior to the election, that Trudeau's lack of experience would be offset by the tremendous breadth and depth of experience of many of his caucus, who had, of course, previously been cabinet ministers? Are you suggesting they... forgot, that some things had to be kept secret? Of course they didn't.. Some of the promises were purely political, as is always the case. I would expect that some will be broken outright. I won't fault Trudeau anymore than I did Harper. Neither will most people, though there is always a tipping point. Quote
overthere Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 Their campaign platform is their legislative agenda so they are going to tell us that they are bringing 25,000 refugees in by end of December? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Smallc Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 so they are going to tell us that they are bringing 25,000 refugees in by end of December? That wasn't in their campaign platform. Quote
Argus Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 Of course they didn't.. Some of the promises were purely political, as is always the case. I would expect that some will be broken outright. I won't fault Trudeau anymore than I did Harper. Neither will most people, though there is always a tipping point. Harper promised more open government - until he was in power. Trudeau promised more open government,. and is now starting to back away from it. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Wilber Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 Harper promised more open government - until he was in power. Trudeau promised more open government,. and is now starting to back away from it.Surprise! When has this not happened after an election? I guess it is because enough people keep falling for the pre election BS about promised openness. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
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