Big Guy Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) I do follow politics and try to be objective but I have never seen one politician of one party try to skewer a fellow politician of the same party as Williams is doing to Harper; http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.2598177 I am sharing it because I find it humorous, surprising and unprecedented. I do not share all of Danny's views but respect the fact that he is certainly speaking his mind. Edited October 7, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
angrypenguin Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 How is he even part of the PC party? Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
Bryan Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 When was Williams ever in the same party as Stephen Harper? Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 When was Williams ever in the same party as Stephen Harper? Oh wow, did I get this wrong? I thought he was PC? It's been a heck of a long day. Greetings from Ottawa. I can see Parliament right now! Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
Bryan Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Oh wow, did I get this wrong? I thought he was PC? It's been a heck of a long day. Greetings from Ottawa. I can see Parliament right now! No, you're right, I think I just confused you by the way I phrased it. Williams is a Nfld PC. Stephen Harper left the federal PCs in 1986. Different parties at different levels. Edited October 7, 2015 by Bryan Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 No, you're right, I think I just confused you by the way I phrased it. Williams is a Nfld PC. Stephen Harper left the federal PCs in 1986. Different parties at different levels. Ah, devil's in the details. Oops! I'll just call them the Conservatives. I got in trouble calling them the Cons (which to me is just a short version of Conservatives), but I'm lazy Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
Big Guy Posted October 7, 2015 Author Report Posted October 7, 2015 I just found it refreshing that somebody would drop all that political correctness and avoid reading from assigned party speaking points. I would be just as pleased if someone from the NDP or Liberals, who were "disappointed" in the current leader of their party be as honest. The BS coming from all candidates has become a tiring buzz to my ears. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Bryan Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 See NDP would be different, because they are all one party (federal and provincial). If an NDP elected official were breaking ranks, that would be a much bigger deal. Quote
capricorn Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 By his own admission on Power Play tonight, Williams said about Harper: "I didn't like him from the day I met him." He didn't get along with Paul Martin either. If Danny didn't get his way, he could be very vindictive. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
angrypenguin Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 By his own admission on Power Play tonight, Williams said about Harper: "I didn't like him from the day I met him." He didn't get along with Paul Martin either. If Danny didn't get his way, he could be very vindictive. So I ask the question politely again, how is he still a part of any federal party? Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 NL PCs would have some overlap with federal Conservatives but not a whole lot. The lack of love is not just from Danny. Quote
capricorn Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 So I ask the question politely again, how is he still a part of any federal party?He's not. He just wants to stir up sh*t. He is now a private citizen enjoying the millions he made selling off his investments. Some have given him the nickname "Danny Millions." Fights with Ottawa It didn't take long for Williams to make a splash on the federal scene after becoming premier. Williams was furious that then prime minister Paul Martin made election promises in June 2004 to give Newfoundland and Labrador royalties from offshore oil developments, then backtracked at a first ministers meeting in Ottawa. He stormed out of the meeting. "Our pride can't be bought…. We won't say yes to less," Williams told reporters in October 2004. "We had a commitment and [the prime minister] has broken that commitment." In December of that year, Williams pulled down Canadian flags from provincial buildings during talks to give Newfoundland full protection against equalization clawbacks on offshore royalties. A month later, the flags went back up and a deal was made. Harper's government didn't find it any easier dealing with Williams, who criticized the Conservatives for refusing to support the province's push for higher royalties from the oil industry. Frustrated with federal-provincial equalization formulas, Williams in 2008 launched his "Anything But Conservative" campaign, in which he urged voters to reject Harper's party. Harper described the campaign as more personal than political, saying at heart it was a clash of personalities. "Premier Williams didn't like the last government. He doesn't like this government. And I don't think he'll like the next government, whoever that would be," he said. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/danny-williams-fighter-millionaire-townie-1.922078 Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
angrypenguin Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 He's not. He just wants to stir up sh*t. He is now a private citizen enjoying the millions he made selling off his investments. Some have given him the nickname "Danny Millions." http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/danny-williams-fighter-millionaire-townie-1.922078 Thanks. Yet another loud mouth with no substance and here with an axe to grind. I'll be sure to share this! Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 Danny Williams is the most admired former politician in the province. Though not without flaws, he had a profound and positive effect on how people see themselves here and did much to restore local pride. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 I've got no love for Danny Williams, but it's pretty bad when even conservatives are calling your tactics racist. Quote
Smallc Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 See NDP would be different, because they are all one party (federal and provincial). If an NDP elected official were breaking ranks, that would be a much bigger deal. The Alberta NDP supports the TPP and I have yet to see Manitoba implement MMP. Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 The Alberta NDP supports the TPP and I have yet to see Manitoba implement MMP. Look i'm not doubting you, but in a world of "cite this" and "cite that", can you please cite this so I can read up on it? Thanks Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
Smallc Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 Look i'm not doubting you, but in a world of "cite this" and "cite that", can you please cite this so I can read up on it? Thanks I have a hard time with that on my phone, but I'll do my best on the Alberta thing. Manitoba shares the same electoral system as the rest of Canada and so doesn't need a cite. http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/business/provinces-split-over-tpp-with-west-in-favour-east-concerned-1.2591415 Quote
Bryan Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 The Alberta NDP supports the TPP and I have yet to see Manitoba implement MMP. Notley saying she's cautiously optimistic is a far cry from calling out Mulcair though. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Danny Williams might be outspoken but he says what he means. He leaves more integrity in his wake when we walks away than Stephen Harper will ever have. And he's absolutely right when he calls the Conservatives tactics racist. Edited October 7, 2015 by ReeferMadness Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
waldo Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 I've got no love for Danny Williams, but it's pretty bad when even conservatives are calling your tactics racist. yes - conservative. It's always telling to read Harper Conservative partisans readily group their opponents federal & provincial parties together as one... when it suits their purpose. Such scrambling here! And such a naive questioning to suggest/imply a (former) provincial Premier has no legitimacy in speaking to the federal level! Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 Notley saying she's cautiously optimistic is a far cry from calling out Mulcair though. Opening up Japan's beef market further can only help Alberta. If oil prices remain depressed, the province is going to have to lean more on agricultural exports to make up the difference. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 Opening up Japan's beef market further can only help Alberta. If oil prices remain depressed, the province is going to have to lean more on agricultural exports to make up the difference. I'm sure the home of wagyu and kobe beef is really excited about Alberta beef. Quote
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