cybercoma Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Posted September 24, 2015 Ah but we will at least have democracy. And that's the difference. You know it's democracy that's keeping her from being prime minister, right? We're talking precisely about the fact that people choose not to vote for Green. Quote
cybercoma Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Posted September 24, 2015 ? Less than 4% voted for them in 2011. Quote
Smallc Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Less than 4% voted for them in 2011. I know, you said the same thing as me lol. Quote
ironstone Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 For christ's sake. It's about hearing from all political parties on a debate. It's not scary at all. So do you want to hear from all the parties on this link in the debates? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ironstone Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 For christ's sake. It's about hearing from all political parties on a debate. It's not scary at all. So do you want to hear from all the parties on this link in the debates? http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=par&document=index〈=e§ion=pol Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ironstone Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 So do you want to hear from all the parties on this link in the debates? http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=par&document=index〈=e§ion=pol Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
cybercoma Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Posted September 24, 2015 In reality we don't need to hear from all parties anyway. All you need to hear from are your local candidates, since that's the way elections work in Canada. You vote for a local representative. Everything else that happens in our government is a result of that and that alone. Quote
G Huxley Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 "In reality we don't need to hear from all parties anyway. All you need to hear from are your local candidates, since that's the way elections work in Canada."Well thanks to the conservatives they don't think the public needs to hear from their local candidates either! Quote
G Huxley Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 I haven't read any polls showing the Green party leading or in any way in the running to elect a large number of Mps. They'll be lucky to even elect 2 MPS. In fact it's likely that only Mp May will be the only one to retain a green seat. That is reality. If the green are ever in a position to be electing at least 12 Mos then we can start caring what they say. Right now they don't matter. Aren't even an official party. Again official party is irrelevent it has nothing to do with the debates. It's simply an internal commons thing. And it is merely a method of the political elite to entrench their positions while marginalizing others. I would say that it is in fact anti-democratic. Quote
G Huxley Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 Correction, over 96%. They got less than 4% of the vote. These people don't want to admit that the Green Party is utterly irrelevant right now. Some day they might not be, maybe. But the Green Party got even less of a share in 2011 than it did in 2008 because it focused its efforts on a single riding to get May elected. T You are forgetting that no party won a plurality of votes. So we have the minority running the country. That's right that's called an oligarchy. Quote
Smallc Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 Again official party is irrelevent it has nothing to do with the debates. Apparently, the people organizing most of the debates disagreed with you. If you don't like it, organize your own debate. Quote
Smallc Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 You are forgetting that no party won a plurality of votes. You don't know what plurality means, do you? Quote
G Huxley Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 Apparently, the people organizing most of the debates disagreed with you. If you don't like it, organize your own debate. The people organizing the debates are organizing under the false pretenses of a non partisan charity when it has been shown that they fund right wing think tanks. Quote
G Huxley Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 You don't know what plurality means, do you? I meant majority. Quote
cybercoma Posted September 25, 2015 Author Report Posted September 25, 2015 You are forgetting that no party won a plurality of votes. The Conservatives won a plurality of votes. They did not get an absolute majority of votes. Quote
ToadBrother Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 Again official party is irrelevent it has nothing to do with the debates. It's simply an internal commons thing. And it is merely a method of the political elite to entrench their positions while marginalizing others. I would say that it is in fact anti-democratic. IF a party only has a handful of seats, why should they get the resources that parties with dozens of seats get? Quote
Canada_First Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 In reality we don't need to hear from all parties anyway. All you need to hear from are your local candidates, since that's the way elections work in Canada. You vote for a local representative. Everything else that happens in our government is a result of that and that alone.Totally this. I would vote for a great local candidate that was active and cared about my community even if it meant I voted for the other guys. Quote
ToadBrother Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 You are forgetting that no party won a plurality of votes. So we have the minority running the country. That's right that's called an oligarchy. Now that's a non sequitur to end all non sequiturs. Quote
G Huxley Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Now that's a non sequitur to end all non sequiturs. No party won a majority of the votes casted. That is correct. As I already said I accidentally used the wrong word. Edited September 25, 2015 by G Huxley Quote
G Huxley Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Totally this. I would vote for a great local candidate that was active and cared about my community even if it meant I voted for the other guys. Well you better not vote conservative as none of their candidates are allowed to go to all candidates' meetings. Edited September 25, 2015 by G Huxley Quote
G Huxley Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 IF a party only has a handful of seats, why should they get the resources that parties with dozens of seats get? Why should any of the parties get public resources? Quote
cybercoma Posted September 25, 2015 Author Report Posted September 25, 2015 No party won a majority of the votes casted. That is correct. As I already said I accidentally used the wrong word. It's still a non sequitur. Quote
ToadBrother Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 No party won a majority of the votes casted. That is correct. As I already said I accidentally used the wrong word. The non-sequitur was your claim that an "oligarchy" runs the country because FPTP allows a party to form government without a majority of votes. I reject THAT point completely. It's absurd and hyperbolic. Quote
G Huxley Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 No it isn't. Polls have shown that the majority disapprove of the minority which runs the country so it is an oligarchy. Quote
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