TimG Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Im sorry but fear mongering does not include the towns being moved. We call that real...as in reality.The towns were moved. That is real. The claims that they had to be moved because of 'sea level rise' is complete and total nonsense invented by chicken littles desperate to blame everyone problem in world on industrialization in far away places instead of looking for more plausible causes. Edited March 23, 2015 by TimG Quote
guyser Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 The towns were moved. That is real. The claims that they had to be moved because of 'sea level rise' is complete and total nonsense invented by chicken littles desperate to blame everyone problem in world on industrialization in far away places instead of looking for more plausible causes.LOL Nice try tim. No ones buying it. All that sea ice going, pack ice going.......must be Malaysia's fault. Quote
eyeball Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 Perfect example of Chicken Little. Florida Keys are only a couple of feet above sea level....yet I don't see any evacuations planned just yet.A better example would be the Titanic. Full steam ahead and damn whatever comes. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 The towns were moved. That is real. The claims that they had to be moved because of 'sea level rise' is complete and total nonsense invented by chicken littles desperate to blame everyone problem in world on industrialization in far away places instead of looking for more plausible causes. I bet you still think the earth is flat too. Maybe playing with formulas too much has blinded you to the actual disappearing shorelines along the east coast etc. Quote
TimG Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Nice try tim. No ones buying it.Why don't you provide specifics of these "moved towns". I can dismantle the phony connections to climate change. All that sea ice going, pack ice going.......must be Malaysia's fault.A diversion. Ice pack has nothing to do with "moved towns". More importantly, the Antarctic ice pack keeps increasing but you are will probably argue that AGW, like all mystic boogie men, simultaneously causes the ice pack to increase and decrease depending on what the chicken littles need. Edited March 24, 2015 by TimG Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Why don't you provide specifics of these "moved towns". I can dismantle the phony connections to climate change. A diversion. Ice pack has nothing to do with "moved towns". More importantly, the Antarctic ice pack keeps increasing but you are will probably argue that AGW, like all mystic boogie men, simultaneously causes the ice pack to increase and decrease depending on what the chicken littles need. Antarctic ice pack is definitely increasing, because increased temperatures have allowed more evaporation, condensation, you know, how rain happens, which dilutes the saltiness of the ocean surface and therefore raises the freezing level temperature. Unfortunately its the same warmed water that is greasing up the Thwaites glacier. Hold onto your that if that slides in any kind of a hurry. Edited March 24, 2015 by On Guard for Thee Quote
The_Squid Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 Climate change deniers deserve derision and ridicule... they are this century's flat earthers... Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 Well no, to be fair we shouldnt force them to remove their veils either. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 Perfect example of Chicken Little. Florida Keys are only a couple of feet above sea level....yet I don't see any evacuations planned just yet. True, and buildings are still being put up near shorelines. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 The towns were moved. That is real. The claims that they had to be moved because of 'sea level rise' is complete and total nonsense invented by chicken littles desperate to blame everyone problem in world on industrialization in far away places instead of looking for more plausible causes. The whole climate change thing is about control. Nothing more. Controlling the way you think the way you live. But climate change mitigation still won't get rid of all the plastics in the oceans. Quote
kimmy Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 Watch the senate mock a Florida State Official because he is not permitted to use the phrase 'climate change'. “I used ‘climate change but I’m suggesting that maybe as a state, we use the term ‘atmospheric reemployment.’ That might be something that the governor could get behind.” but it's not a policy. There's not a policy against using that phrase, the one that was mentioned earlier. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
kimmy Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 How many - 50, 100? Not much going on right now. Still a lot of seaside properties being built. North Carolina famously passed a law that forbids government agencies from considering possibility of sea level rise when making policy. Why? Because real estate developers lobbied for it. It would have reduced the value of their beach-front property developments. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
kimmy Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 There are two sides to this. You seem to want to ignore the fact that it is common for bureaucrats to exaggerate climate change concerns and use the topic as an excuse to get funding. On the other you have republicans who seems to want to pretend the issue does not exist at all. Both sides are unreasonable and, in this case, the government response is excessive and uncalled for. But that does not mean the bureaucrats who want to "talk about climate change" are on the side of the angels. I missed where it was established as fact that this is a common problem. I've heard it claimed that scientists do this, usually by Breitbart/Townhall types, but for me it's a first to hear that bureaucrats also use climate change to get funding. Funding for what? Can you give examples of what you mean? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
TimG Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) I missed where it was established as fact that this is a common problem. I've heard it claimed that scientists do this, usually by Breitbart/Townhall types, but for me it's a first to hear that bureaucrats also use climate change to get funding. Funding for what? Can you give examples of what you mean? http://www.mediaite.com/online/fema-to-cut-disaster-prep-funding-to-governors-who-deny-manmade-climate-change/ A new policy from FEMA will cut mitigation funding to governors who don’t adopt plans to reduce the effect of natural disasters caused by anthropogenic climate change. This particular policy by FEMA makes a mockery of the actual science that shows there is no detectable link between AGW and "natural disasters" at this time. Now you will likely note that this policy was in response moves by states but it is an example of a government bureaucracy linking funding to a willingness to cowtow to the climate change cult. That said, the mission of bureaucracy is to expand its budget and power so if you take away climate change as a tool they will find something else to exploit so one could argue that the net savings are small. Edited March 24, 2015 by TimG Quote
GostHacked Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 North Carolina famously passed a law that forbids government agencies from considering possibility of sea level rise when making policy. Why? Because real estate developers lobbied for it. It would have reduced the value of their beach-front property developments. -k Nothing else matters but $$$$. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 Well its only proper that FEMA take steps to put the naysayer states in their places, since they always have to lend a hand cleaning up the mess. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 but it's not a policy. There's not a policy against using that phrase, the one that was mentioned earlier. -k That is fun to watch, once you can detach from the ridiculousness of whats actually going on. But then again, Im sure I would feel much better if my seaside home was washed away by climate reemployment, rather than that nasty old fashioned climate change. Quote
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