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[On Guard for Thee]

Lets remember this...moving on...

Hmm...a post about being free from subjugation all the while wanting subjugation.

Please....

It seems one thing you can count on fro the right is contradiction.

[jacee]

Yep, within the limits we collectively decide to impose, now tell us why we can't tell people they can't have their faces covered, and then tell me it's their right, and it's their right because people decided it could be, except when we limit those rights, and on goes the infinite loop of lefty logic, that's of course until you point it out, then the train jumps the tracks right off the loop into, 'you're just a racist'.

"We" don't limit people's freedom of religion.

The courts may, when it impinges on rights of others.

A woman choosing to cover her face doesn't.

End of story.

[Je suis Omar]

There certainly is a lot of "we" and "our" in Canada with regards to core values - and those values are espoused by a multitude of cultures and faiths that have made Canada what it is - .

That being a country founded on a policy of genocide.

Hooray!

[Argus]

That being a country founded on a policy of genocide.

Hooray!

An insipid, untruthful, ridiculous and idiotic comment.

[cybercoma]

The judge today hearing the appeal decided to rule right away, so the woman could swear the oath in time to vote for the election. The Tories lost their appeal and the niqab ban was shot down again.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/niqab-ruling-federal-court-government-challenge-citizenship-ceremonies-1.3229206

In the Federal Court ruling, Boswell said the government policy, introduced in 2011, violates the Citizenship Act, which states citizenship judges must allow the greatest possible religious freedom when administering the oath.

Boswell asked how that would be possible, "if the policy requires candidates to violate or renounce a basic tenet of their religion."

Edited September 15, 2015 by cybercoma

[Canada_First]

The Muslims can do whatever they like. I'll still refuse to do business with or show them any respect in public at all. I don't have any respect for people who hate Jews. View homosexuality as a crime and who wish to kill apostates.

Anyone who wears a niqab is a very strict Muslim and would certainly hold these types of views. They would interpret literally the Koran which calls for the murder of any people who don't submit to Islam.

I don't have any Muslims near me since I left the city and I couldn't be happier.

Edited September 15, 2015 by Canada_First

[cybercoma]

The Muslims can do whatever they like.

Except, you know, break laws.

[Canada_First]

Except, you know, break laws.

I hope they come to try to victimize me. Oh God I would love that. Absolutely love it. Edited September 15, 2015 by Canada_First

[CITIZEN_2015]

I don't understand if they are so eager to wear whatever it is called (neqab, berka, chador,.....) then why they don't stay in their own country and feel at home??.

[Canada_First]

I don't understand if they are so eager to wear whatever it is called (neqab, berka, chador,.....) then why they don't stay in their own country and feel at home??.

Because they want to take over Canada. It's called creeping Shariah. Read about it.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Because they want to take over Canada. It's called creeping Shariah. Read about it.

If I knew my question is going to be twisted so much and thrown in my face I would have never made the comment.

Take over Canada!!!!!. Do you understand statistics? Considering that 4 out of 5 of immigrants are non-Muslims and Muslim population is less than a million (against 31 million non-Muslims) I don't know to call your comment madness or hate or fear mongering to spread hate. Or all of above.

[cybercoma]

I don't understand if they are so eager to wear whatever it is called (neqab, berka, chador,.....) then why they don't stay in their own country and feel at home??.

I just don't understand why people are so eager to tell grown adult women what they can and cannot choose to wear. Your post said differently:

I don't understand if they are so eager to wear whatever it is called (kippah, yarmulka, kappel,.....) then why they don't stay in their own country and feel at home??.

I guess what you don't understand that we allow people of all faiths to observe their religions here. People are not required to renounce their faith when they become citizens and there is no official state religion in this country. If you're looking for countries like that, then there are plenty of others on the planet that may have customs that you prefer, namely forcing people to observe a specific official state religion or forcing people to renounce their religions to become citizens.

[Canada_First]

If I knew my question is going to be twisted so much and thrown in my face I would have never made the comment.

Take over Canada!!!!!. Do you understand statistics? Considering that 4 out of 5 of immigrants are non-Muslims and Muslim population is less than a million (against 31 million non-Muslims) I don't know to call your comment madness or hate or fear mongering to spread hate. Or all of above.

every 10 years muslim populationn triples. Look at Euro countries. Once they have 10% Muslims they start having problems. The same will happen here in Canada.

[Springer]

Today's decision will not play well with the majority of Canadians, most of whom, IMHO, would offer that showing one's face while taking the oath of citizenship and allegiance to Canada is not too much to ask of anyone, regardless of religion or customs, or whatever, doesn't matter.

Indeed, I suspect a lot of people are getting a little more than tired of rulings like this.

[CITIZEN_2015]

I just don't understand why people are so eager to tell grown adult women what they can and cannot choose to wear. Your post said differently:


I guess what you don't understand that we allow people of all faiths to observe their religions here. People are not required to renounce their faith when they become citizens and there is no official state religion in this country. If you're looking for countries like that, then there are plenty of others on the planet that may have customs that you prefer, namely forcing people to observe a specific official state religion or forcing people to renounce their religions to become citizens.

Well for one thing the other extreme is not allowed even in Canada (birthday suit) right?

No seriously I meant why come here and face alienation, prejudism, hate in every day life. If they love their culture so much then why they don't stay with their own people who respect that culture and be compatible with that culture rather than facing all above every day. They come here well knowing that they come to a Christian majority country and with totally different values and customs. A tiny minority refuse to adopt or even change a bit.

On your last comment regarding other countries forcing people to observe a specific state religion... you know well what those countries rae right? I give you a clue. It is not Canada, it is not the west.

Edited September 15, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015

[cybercoma]

Today's decision will not play well with the majority of Canadians, most of whom, IMHO, would offer that showing one's face while taking the oath of citizenship and allegiance to Canada is not too much to ask of anyone, regardless of religion or customs, or whatever, doesn't matter.

Indeed, I suspect a lot of people are getting a little more than tired of rulings like this.

I suspect the majority of Canadians couldn't possibly care less.

[cybercoma]

They refuse to adopt or even change a bit.

Source of that "fact"?

[Canada_First]

Today's decision will not play well with the majority of Canadians, most of whom, IMHO, would offer that showing one's face while taking the oath of citizenship and allegiance to Canada is not too much to ask of anyone, regardless of religion or customs, or whatever, doesn't matter.

Indeed, I suspect a lot of people are getting a little more than tired of rulings like this.

The left doesn't care about the majority of Canadians. They think we're uneducated neanderthals who need re education and will drag us kicking and screaming. For our own good.

[cybercoma]

The left doesn't care about the majority of Canadians.

Newsflash: The left IS the majority of Canadians.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Source of that "fact"?

Actually I edited that to a tiny minority because I realized when I said "they" I was referring to all. Something I have been objecting to others all along very strongly. I read my post and I said to myself what a hypocrite!!!!!.

Well the source of that is the few women we see all in public walking like they are still in Arabia!!!!.

Edited September 15, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015

[cybercoma]

Well the source of that is the few women we see all in public walking like they are still in Arabia!!!!.

And why should they abandon their religion, which some believe has tenets about how to dress? You know pentecostal women here don't cut their hair and wear long jean skirts. I don't ever hear anyone criticizing them for not assimilating. We never see threads about the Amish and how they're backwards and refuse to assimilate. A Muslim woman who chooses to observe her faith by covering her hair or face though....everyone loses their minds.

[Canada_First]

And why should they abandon their religion, which some believe has tenets about how to dress? You know pentecostal women here don't cut their hair and wear long jean skirts. I don't ever hear anyone criticizing them for not assimilating. We never see threads about the Amish and how they're backwards and refuse to assimilate. A Muslim woman who chooses to observe her faith by covering her hair or face though....everyone loses their minds.

Those other groups aren't actively seeking a worldwide caliphate. They aren't beheading people. Shooting up magazine offices. Bombing buildings and people. Flying planes into buildings. Those are Muslims doing all those things. We don't want more death in the world.

[Michael Hardner]

They don't all do those things. In fact you have stated more prejudiced views than the average person would hold.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Why they don't stay where they can be among their own and practice their religion too without being looked at with anger or prejudism every day? Who wants to look at them anyways!!! I don't know much about Pentecostal or Amish people and culture so I won't comment on that.

From the posts I have been reading since I join this site I suddenly realized that their number (those hate people who may look or dress or behave differently) may be much greater than I thought in Canada!!!!. It wasn't a nice surprise so I can imagine how hard it may be to live as a Muslim in the West these days.

[cybercoma]

They don't all do those things. In fact you have stated more prejudiced views than the average person would hold.

That's the schtick. Post nonsensical prejudiced rants in order to incite a reaction.