takeanumber Posted October 19, 2004 Report Posted October 19, 2004 Yes, Yes, let's poop on the CBC, yadda yadda yadda. Yawn. Let's move on. Pearson, all the way. Quote
caesar Posted October 19, 2004 Report Posted October 19, 2004 August just is simply a angry sad soul; he hates anything Canadian. I am proud to be Canadian. Quote
The Terrible Sweal Posted October 19, 2004 Report Posted October 19, 2004 This list is a joke. Of the top 50, only six were women. So? Quote
The Terrible Sweal Posted October 19, 2004 Report Posted October 19, 2004 There were a number of truly depressing choices. Mercer, Lavigne, Suzuki, Gzouwsky, Chretien, Cherry (voting was conducted by CBC while the Cherry-gag crisis was playing out). Also several no-hopers: Maxwell, Curry, LeMieux, MacKenzie ... And several ("noble") failures: Riel, Dallaire, ... Anyway, I voted for Fleming. His idea has had a huge and impact on the world. Imagine if the meridian had been located in Canada: "Timmins Mean Time 00:00:00". At the age of 18, armed with a little formal training in surveying and engineering, Fleming emigrated to Canada from Kirkcaldy, Scotland. In 1858, as chief engineer of the Northern Railway, he first proposed a railway to the Pacific. Many years later, he played a leading part in its construction. Nationalist and imperialist of talent, vision and energy, he was responsible for a wide variety of projects central to Canada’s scientific, academic and cultural life. Fleming designed the "Three-Penny Beaver," Canada’s first adhesive postage stamp, in 1851. He also proposed the present system of standard time, by which the world is divided into 24 equal time zones. It was adopted in 1884. Quote
Bakunin Posted October 19, 2004 Report Posted October 19, 2004 I don't know if it will be the greatest but he will clearly be canadian. Its not a cbc/radio-canada partnership its only cbc... so they didn't even take the time to explain it in french and give the french a possibility to participate. Quote
daniel Posted October 19, 2004 Report Posted October 19, 2004 Speaking of politicians, Canadians have chosen for their top ten, two liberals, one NDP and the most recent Conservative was about 100 years ago. Quote
Newfie Canadian Posted October 19, 2004 Report Posted October 19, 2004 The most recent Conservative PM's were Campbell, Mulroney, Clark and Diefenbaker. The Chief made the top 50. A sign of the times? Quote "If you don't believe your country should come before yourself, you can better serve your country by livin' someplace else." Stompin' Tom Connors
kimmy Posted October 19, 2004 Report Posted October 19, 2004 I have read that Hal Anderson being #34 was, indeed, a stunt-- he and his co-host campaigned for their listeners to vote for him as the "Greatest Canadian". Which, I guess, points out the shortcomings of the whole concept. As for Don Cherry... he's an obnoxious loudmouth who talks like he's had a stroke. But I don't think his strong showing is a result of a scam or an attempt to discredit the CBC. I think his popularity is legitimate... I think a lot of people appreciate that he's a proud, unapologetic cheerleader for this country. And he might be the only person in mainstream media who's completely unafraid of speaking his mind. I think his popularity is evidence of qualities that people admire. How popular IS Cherry? I think it's well-known that Hockey Night in Canada has been by far CBC's most watched program for many years, and I have heard that Cherry's segment often draws more viewers than the game itself. I think that Cherry has established himself as something of a national institution. I don't think he belongs on a list of Greatest Canadians, but he's a Greater Canadian than Rick Mercer... -kimmy Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
maplesyrup Posted October 19, 2004 Author Report Posted October 19, 2004 I don't know if it will be the greatest but he will clearly be canadian.Its not a cbc/radio-canada partnership its only cbc... so they didn't even take the time to explain it in french and give the french a possibility to participate. Oh poor baby! And if it had been translated into French, Quebeckers would have rejected it because the idea came from English Canada. The old separatist ploy. Catch 22 anyone! Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
Newfie Canadian Posted October 19, 2004 Report Posted October 19, 2004 Well the CBC site has the top 100 now. Some notable names are: 99) Sam Steele 98) Moredcai Richler 97) Louise Arbour 91) Preston Manning 87) Henry Morgentaler 80) Chief Dan George 76) John McCRae 74) Emily Murphy 69) René Lévesque 64) Brian Mulroney 57) Lucy Maude Montgomery 54) William Stephenson Top 100 Quote "If you don't believe your country should come before yourself, you can better serve your country by livin' someplace else." Stompin' Tom Connors
Cameron Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 64) Brian Mulroney He should be higher on the list. Atleased above JC. Quote Economic Left/Right: 3.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26 I want to earn money and keep the majority of it.
caesar Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 He should be higher on the list. Atleased above JC. Don't fret. Mulroney would make the list of the most despised Canadian . If they pick athletes; why not Nancy Greene Raine or Karen Magnussen. Quote
stamps Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 Ralph Klein has to be considered the most important man in Canada today, his tight fiscal policies are admired throughout the world, just how influencal Ralph is was recognized by his invitation to the Bilderberg conferance in the mid nineties as it's Keynote speaker.... Ralph and Alberta are more well connected with the people that really matter Globally than our Federal Government.... Quote
caesar Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 Ralph Klein is a joke. He is pretty much a dipstick. Alberta is a financial success because it has oil; not because it has Klein. Quote
stamps Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 Ralph Klein is a joke. He is pretty much a dipstick. Alberta is a financial success because it has oil; not because it has Klein. Your comment only shows how much you are out of touch with reality brother.... Oil afforded Ralph the theater, what he has done with it is what is remarkable, he set out his agenda and stuck to his guns.... if Canada was the sole benaficiary and recipient of Alberta wealth like many outside this province dream of it would have just been squandered away.... say what you like because Ralphs world is alive and strong and the jewel that Alberta has become was brought about with his guidance... my life and that of the majority of Albertans is very good under the system and enviroment Ralph and his government have created and they will be rewarded with a vote of confidance next provincial election.... like the old saying goes "if it's not broken do'nt fix it"...... Quote
maplesyrup Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Posted October 20, 2004 Ralph Klein has to be considered the most important man in Canada today, his tight fiscal policies are admired throughout the world, just how influencal Ralph is was recognized by his invitation to the Bilderberg conferance in the mid nineties as it's Keynote speaker.... Ralph and Alberta are more well connected with the people that really matter Globally than our Federal Government.... Ralph Klein with his drunken outbursts against the poor is right up there with Lyin' Brian Mulroney and Gordo "DUI" Campbell, competing for the title of most despised politician in Canada. And we have all been impressed with his magical abilities, his global savoir faire in solving the blocade of beef from Alberta in the US. Truly remarkable feats Klein has performed. NOT! The big slaughterhouse owners like him though. :angry: Keeping him around gives Martin credibility and provides our PM with a good punching bag! Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
stamps Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 Ralph Klein has to be considered the most important man in Canada today, his tight fiscal policies are admired throughout the world, just how influencal Ralph is was recognized by his invitation to the Bilderberg conferance in the mid nineties as it's Keynote speaker.... Ralph and Alberta are more well connected with the people that really matter Globally than our Federal Government.... Ralph Klein with his drunken outbursts against the poor is right up there with Lyin' Brian Mulroney and Gordo "DUI" Campbell, competing for the title of most despised politician in Canada. And we have all been impressed with his magical abilities, his global savoir faire in solving the blocade of beef from Alberta in the US. Truly remarkable feats Klein has performed. NOT! The big slaughterhouse owners like him though. :angry: Keeping him around gives Martin credibility and provides our PM with a good punching bag! What Ralph lacks in style and tact he more than makes up for in substance, for your information all countries that have had their cattle tested positive for BSE have and are still banned from exporting live cattle to the USA.. including their greatest ally in the war on terror Great Britain, if the USA ever imports live cattle again from BSE positive nations it will be from Alberta.. how did Ralph get a private meeting with the American Vice President when our Federal Liberals were constantly brushed off, and I'm sorry but to have Trudeau as the most important Canadian and not have Ralph in the top 100 is a complete joke, thumbing through that list is depressing, who ever wins it is akin to winning a contest for being the tallest midgit.. our federal liberal government is a joke inside and outside of our country, we have been invaded by the Danes and we do NOTHING, is that not our land up there? Our country has turned into a doormat, our very rich PM talks like a socialist and behaves like a capitalist, he moves his companies out of country so as to avoid paying taxes to his own country,I repeat he is our leader and does'nt pay any taxes from his companies to his own country!!! This Bozo has zero credibility and is nothing but a lame duck..... Quote
maplesyrup Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Posted October 20, 2004 If you are so worried about the Danes taking your friggin' bow and arrow and go North and get them yourself. It is always easy to send others to do your dirty work isn't it? Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
stamps Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 If you are so worried about the Danes taking your friggin' bow and arrow and go North and get them yourself. It is always easy to send others to do your dirty work isn't it? Is that your way of saying I'm right... Quote
caesar Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 how did Ralph get a private meeting with the American Vice President when our Federal Liberals were constantly brushed off, Klein went to kiss American butt but what good did it do him. The money sent by the federal government to help farmers went to large "American owned slaughter houses" that were already gouging and making a large profit from the situation. As for Alberta being the jewel of Canada; you can have your freezing paradise Quote
Newfie Canadian Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 I don't know stamps. Granted I'm not an expert on Alberta or Ralph Klein, but it seems to me that his success coincides too much with the boom in oil prices in the last few years. I don't recall hearing about Alberta's tremendous success in the early 1990's (Klein came in around 1992 if I remember correctly). I would suggest that he is a good premier to be able to stand up against the feds and keep Alberta going, but I don't think he is a great leader. Klein appears to be aloof and confrontational, which gives him a bad look outside Alberta. As an outsider, he strikes me as the type of person to get us into a war if he was PM. Quote "If you don't believe your country should come before yourself, you can better serve your country by livin' someplace else." Stompin' Tom Connors
stamps Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 Klein went to kiss American butt but what good did it do him. The money sent by the federal government to help farmers went to large "American owned slaughter houses" that were already gouging and making a large profit from the situation.As for Alberta being the jewel of Canada; you can have your freezing paradise Yes Ralph did go and plead our case to the VP but the point I was making was that he did get that meeting, something our Federal government was unable to accomplish..also as previously stated the USA has banned every country that has ever had a positive BSE case from exporting live cattle to their country and has never once lifted that ban.. but I'm confidant it will be lifted in our case eventually and we will probably be the only country .. and yes the money ment to help our ranchers was not doled out properly, the guide lines used to determine who received payouts was flawed and not very well thought out... and as for our freezing paradise I will keep it thank you very much.. I think the tallest midgit theory applies here when any part of this country tries to win some kind of weather superiority contest, Calgary is one of but not the tallest in a very close race..... Quote
stamps Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 I don't know stamps.Granted I'm not an expert on Alberta or Ralph Klein, but it seems to me that his success coincides too much with the boom in oil prices in the last few years. I don't recall hearing about Alberta's tremendous success in the early 1990's (Klein came in around 1992 if I remember correctly). I would suggest that he is a good premier to be able to stand up against the feds and keep Alberta going, but I don't think he is a great leader. Klein appears to be aloof and confrontational, which gives him a bad look outside Alberta. As an outsider, he strikes me as the type of person to get us into a war if he was PM. Klein came in at a point in time when we were running a provincial deficit, his platform from the beginning was to cut spending and reduce the debt, he passed a law saying it was illegal to run any kind of a deficit and that was when Oil was well below 20 dollars a barrel, he has kept his word and slashed provincial spending, has not run a deficit once(even when oil dropped below 15 dollars per), any surplus we had was put towards our provincial debt, provincial employees took a 5% roll back, the fat was trimmed from our government, we privitized and sold off our liquor stores,Telus and PWA airlines, our provincial campgrounds are privately run, I'm sure alot of other services that were once publicly run were turned over to the private sector.. the debt was on track to be payed off in a few years anyway but the recent surge in Oil prices moved that schedule ahead.. so to answer your question we have had developed oil activaty in this province for over 60 years but never have we had the leadership and responsible mangement like we have today, Alberta has developed our resources within the rules and contrary to the typical Canadian model and we are now reaping our reward... whatever the rest of this country thinks is really not that important anymore because the truth of the matter is we (as in Ralph) have created a model for our province with a philosophy that is bussiness friendly and condusive to economic growth and not the typical socialist philosophies the rest of this country adheres to, when Oil hit 12 dollars a barrel in the mid nineties my city of Calgary did not miss a beat, the high prices we have today have just exacerbated everything in an enviroment that was doing very well inspite of high oil prices..... Quote
Newfie Canadian Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 If the economy ever goes bust though, all that privatization is going to come back to bite the citizenry. Not that I'm against privatization of certain areas, there are just some areas that government should have no part in. I'm happy for Alberta, and I hope my province can learn from Alberta and become more of a success. My point was there are a lot of great Canadians that didn't make the list, and it may be because I'm from the other end of the country, but Klein's absence didn't surprise me. Nor did the absence of Joey Smallwood, or Robert Bourassa, good and in the case of Smallwood, long time, premiers. Quote "If you don't believe your country should come before yourself, you can better serve your country by livin' someplace else." Stompin' Tom Connors
The Terrible Sweal Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 64) Brian Mulroney He should be higher on the list. He should be whipped through the streets! Quote
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