Bush'stradamus

[cybercoma]

Most New Brunswickers would consider Moncton larger than Saint John by population, even though by the strictest sense it's not. Dieppe is considered part of Moncton by most people, even though it is a political city on its own. In fact, I suspect the only reason it's not amalgamated is that Dieppe is the francophone part of Moncton. Amalgamation would cause a shit storm of epic proportions. However, driving around Moncton, you could end up in Dieppe without even realizing it. There's pretty much no distinction between the two. Saint John is larger land area wise. Fredericton is the capital city of New Brunswick.

[Smallc]

Well, Vancouver is technically smaller than Winnipeg, but...most people wouldn't count it that way either. Moncton, in the normal sense, is bigger.

[jbg]

Sorry my bad, you are correct. St. John is the largest city.

I appreciate the compliment.

I am surprised I got it right, though. I did not cheat and use google but generally, as Rick Mercer would say, as I Yank I would know little or nothing about Canada.

[cybercoma]

Well, Vancouver is technically smaller than Winnipeg, but...most people wouldn't count it that way either. Moncton, in the normal sense, is bigger.

What do you mean in the normal sense? Geographically it's smaller and by population it's smaller. But the population thing is only because Dieppe isn't actually part of Moncton (or Riverview for that matter). It has its own city council and mayor even. Do you mean normal sense, like the census metropolitan area? Because the Moncton census area is a specific thing at Statistics Canada and includes Riverview and Dieppe as part of Moncton.

[bush_cheney2004]

...I am surprised I got it right, though. I did not cheat and use google but generally, as Rick Mercer would say, as I Yank I would know little or nothing about Canada.

Indeed...thank you for upholding the honour of Americans who are so "ignorant" about the "rest of the world".

[waldo]

"compliments and honour all around" for knowing trivial niceties about Canada... in a thread about a failed American president in the U.S. Politics forum!

[jbg]

"compliments and honour all around" for knowing trivial niceties about Canada... in a thread about a failed American president in the U.S. Politics forum!

The thread is about the fact that Bush understood what cutting and running in time for the 2012 elections would accomplish. The wondrous results of appeasement and surrender are now on display for the world to see; a world ablaze.

[waldo]

The thread is about the fact that Bush understood what cutting and running in time for the 2012 elections would accomplish. The wondrous results of appeasement and surrender are now on display for the world to see; a world ablaze.

no - see the U.S.Iraq Status of Forces Agreement that Bush signed... that all U.S. forces would be out of Iraq by December 31, 2011. Obama's follow through on the Bush signed agreement was endorsed by some military types... Gen. David Petraeus, Adm. Mike Mullen, etc., ... and Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

in any case, who broke it... in the first place, hey?

[Smallc]

What do you mean in the normal sense? Geographically it's smaller and by population it's smaller. But the population thing is only because Dieppe isn't actually part of Moncton (or Riverview for that matter). It has its own city council and mayor even. Do you mean normal sense, like the census metropolitan area? Because the Moncton census area is a specific thing at Statistics Canada and includes Riverview and Dieppe as part of Moncton.

The Moncton metro is larger than that of Saint John. The city of Saint John is larger than the city of Moncton. The Vancouver Metro is larger than the Winnipeg Metro. The City of Winnipeg is larger than the City of Vancouver

[waldo]

never a problem for the waldo to do some additional schooling; further to...

no - see the U.S.Iraq Status of Forces Agreement that Bush signed... that all U.S. forces would be out of Iraq by December 31, 2011. Obama's follow through on the Bush signed agreement was endorsed by some military types... Gen. David Petraeus, Adm. Mike Mullen, etc., ... and Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

Iraq’s Government, Not Obama, Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence

In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.”