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So you're fine with both Harper and JT choosing the status quo then? You seem rather bothered by the status quo for someone who is unwilling to offer any ideas on how legislation should be enacted. Funny how those (and not you specifically) love to tag JT with their 'ABORTION ON DEMAND' catch phrase yet have no comment when asked to elaborate on their position.

Maybe we have achieved the ideal situation without legislation then? Or maybe it's just a difficult practice to legislate, thus requiring the judgement of professionals....something conservatives seem to fear.

Of course it's difficult to legislate, it's a hot button topic. As I said, political suicide.

At 7 months a baby can recognize it's mothers voice and it can hear and retain music. You see people talking to and playing music for their babies at this time because presumably they can do this. A baby at 7 months can usually survive just fine and live a healthy life. I had a premie at just under 8 months - she's a happy and healthy teenager.

The issue here is that Down syndrome babies are diagnosed at 14-20 weeks which puts the most likely scenario of abortion into the third trimester. If I was ruling the land, I would try to eliminate any third trimester abortions. The baby is just too far along by this point to be considered a fetus.

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The issue here is that Down syndrome babies are diagnosed at 14-20 weeks which puts the most likely scenario of abortion into the third trimester. If I was ruling the land, I would try to eliminate any third trimester abortions. The baby is just too far along by this point to be considered a fetus.

The rights of healthy siblings, the parents and society get trampled with your analysis.

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I find it somewhat hypocritical that if a baby is born at 7 months and the mother drops it in a dumpster, we are outraged and call it disgusting - we may even want to see her prosecuted,

Sure, because the woman has many options.

yet a woman can go to a clinic at 8 months and have her baby aborted legally and ethically -

No she cannot.

There have to be extenuating circumstances, health wise , that would permit the abortio to go ahead.

If she shows up @ 7 mths and says abort, they say..'get out'

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The rights of healthy siblings, the parents and society get trampled with your analysis.

How so?

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


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Sure, because the woman has many options.

No she cannot.

There have to be extenuating circumstances, health wise , that would permit the abortio to go ahead.

If she shows up @ 7 mths and says abort, they say..'get out'

It's less common in Canada, but late term abortions do happen.

Anyway, the topic is about aborting Down Syndrome babies and considering when DS is detected, they'll almost all be considered late term.

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


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It's less common in Canada, but late term abortions do happen.

Less common meaning almost none....right? And if so, medically necessary.

Anyway, the topic is about aborting Down Syndrome babies and considering when DS is detected, they'll almost all be considered late term.

...and almost impossible to abort. Edited by Guyser2
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It's less common in Canada, but late term abortions do happen.

Anyway, the topic is about aborting Down Syndrome babies and considering when DS is detected, they'll almost all be considered late term.

Down Syndrome, along with Trisomy 13 and 18 can be detected via amniocentesis at 15 weeks. That doesn't seem to be very late.

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Down Syndrome, along with Trisomy 13 and 18 can be detected via amniocentesis at 15 weeks. That doesn't seem to be very late.

14-20 weeks is what i have read.

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


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14-20 weeks is what i have read.

I have no issue with mothers/couples choosing to abort, due to genetic abnormalities, at 20 weeks.

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I have no issue with mothers/couples choosing to abort, due to genetic abnormalities, at 20 weeks.

Does that include FAS and Autism?

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan


I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah


Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball


Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball


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Does that include FAS and Autism?

AFAIK, there isn't a definitive test, in utero, for the fetal alcohol or autism spectrum disorders.

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