On Guard for Thee Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 The sheer callousness is absolutely overwhelming. No wonder we have our concerns about merikans! Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Yes I have....big deal. Police departments have been under scrutiny for excessive force for a long time. That is the problem. big deal! Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 That is the problem. big deal! This is not a new issue just because the YouTube generation watched a video. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 This is not a new issue just because the YouTube generation watched a video. I am not a youtube generation. Get a grip. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
On Guard for Thee Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Oh, now merikans base their law on youtube? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 This is not a new issue just because the YouTube generation watched a video. I have a grandchild, and many of my cronies are disgusted with the militaristic police force. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) I have a grandchild, and many of my cronies are disgusted with the militaristic police force. Good for them, but until the policing status quo changes, there will be more applications of force resulting in injury or death. Edited December 9, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Why wouldn't the cops have recognized that he was an unhealthy man and putting him in a chokehold would have compromised his health. We have cops here on the dtes in Vancouver who have better empathy with drug addicts and prostitutes (although, it took a lot of training to get them onboard). Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Why wouldn't the cops have recognized that he was an unhealthy man and putting him in a chokehold would have compromised his health. We have cops here on the dtes in Vancouver who have better empathy with drug addicts and prostitutes (although, it took a lot of training to get them onboard). Cops in BC also kill citizens....just happened to a mentally guy in the street with a 2x4...they shot him with much empathy. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Good for them, but until the policing status quo changes, there will be more applications of force resulting in injury or death. So how do you change the policing status quo? We had to work on it here in Vancouver and now the VPD actually know the folks in DTES neighbourhood. We have a much better community when the cops empathize with the community instead of putting everyone in chokeholds. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
On Guard for Thee Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 A case the USSC ruled on about 30 years ago has IMO a significant relationship to this case. There is some irony I suppose in that it was "Tennesee vs GARNER" Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Cops in BC also kill citizens....just happened to a mentally guy in the street with a 2x4...they shot him with much empathy. Yes, but we are working on improving the system. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Yes, but we are working on improving the system. Not that I can see....multiple gunshots, tazers, high speed pursuits, submission holds, etc. continue. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 It isn't easy, no doubt, but the VPD has come a long way in their community policing. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Not that I can see....multiple gunshots, tazers, high speed pursuits, submission holds, etc. continue. Well, you don't live here. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Well, you don't live here. ..and you don't live here...but have much more to say about what happens in the U.S. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Not that I can see....multiple gunshots, tazers, high speed pursuits, submission holds, etc. continue. Should we compare this to a city in Cleveland? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 ..and you don't live here...but have much more to say about what happens in the U.S. You seem to have a big problem with canadians discussing your police forces. Why is that? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
On Guard for Thee Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Well, you don't live here. I wonder if some actual stats would have any effect? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Should we compare this to a city in Cleveland? Nope....dead is dead...and Cleveland has King James instead of a Queen. That's why cities have big insurance policies. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 You seem to have a big problem with canadians discussing your police forces. Why is that? Just responding in kind...do you have a problem with that ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Just responding in kind...do you have a problem with that ? Nope, not at all. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Nope....dead is dead...and Cleveland has King James instead of a Queen. That's why cities have big insurance policies. I get the insurance policies in the U.S. We don't have those issues in Canada. And I hope we don't end up going in that direction. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Nope, not at all. Good....then I will continue to point out such passionate inconsistencies in the game of cross border gazing. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 I get the insurance policies in the U.S. We don't have those issues in Canada. And I hope we don't end up going in that direction. That's fine....the U.S. is not Canada. Why would anyone expect identical experiences ? Canada ain't no paradise for police interactions either...just ask First Nations and "visible minorities". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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