G Huxley Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 Even the US is being forced to acknowledge this now, having said little when the last 529 were sentenced to death. http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/us-urges-egypt-to-end-mass-trials-114042900295_1.html Quote
eyeball Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 "The United States is deeply troubled by the continued use of mass trials and sentencing in Egypt, and particularly by today's death sentence against 683 defendants," Xinhua quoted White House spokesperson Jay Carney as saying in a statement. Deeply troubled? Washington has partially lifted its freeze on assistance to Egypt, enacted after Morsi's removal, with plans to deliver 10 Apache helicopters and some $650 million in military aid this year. ...hmmmm... Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
G Huxley Posted April 30, 2014 Author Report Posted April 30, 2014 Good catch. This is an egregious crime against humanity. Creating mass graves and the west is financing and backing it militarily. Quote
bleeding heart Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 An eight-minute trial...and no defense allowed. Ye gods. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
GostHacked Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) An eight-minute trial...and no defense allowed. Ye gods. You can feel the wave of democracy spreading across Egypt and abroad since the Arab Spring started. Edited May 1, 2014 by GostHacked Quote
eyeball Posted May 2, 2014 Report Posted May 2, 2014 Good thing we joined the right side. It would have really sucked to get that wrong again. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bleeding heart Posted May 2, 2014 Report Posted May 2, 2014 Ha! Yeah, predictable stuff. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
Argus Posted May 2, 2014 Report Posted May 2, 2014 An eight-minute trial...and no defense allowed. Ye gods. Depends on whether or not these sentences are ever actually carried out. I was talking to a Lebanese Christian guy the other day about this, and it didn't bother him at all. He said you need to make an example of these brotherhood types. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bleeding heart Posted May 2, 2014 Report Posted May 2, 2014 Even if there's some truth to that, I think it reasonable to wonder about the government who is carrying out such "examples." I do remember reading somewhere that most of the sentences had been commuted to life in prison. But an eight-minute trial with virtually no defense allowed is something supported only by reactionary servants of Power. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
jbg Posted May 4, 2014 Report Posted May 4, 2014 Even the US is being forced to acknowledge this now, having said little when the last 529 were sentenced to death. http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/us-urges-egypt-to-end-mass-trials-114042900295_1.html Those outrages don't receive nearly the condemnation that Israel's self-defense efforts do (see related link). But are these innocents? Or people at war with Egypt? Morsi was ruthless as well. Why do we force the West's allies to fight with both hands tied behind their backs? The Muslim Brotherhood isn't exactly playing by Marquis of Queensbury rules either. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bleeding heart Posted May 9, 2014 Report Posted May 9, 2014 I understand that you and bud both think "Israel!" should be inserted into every discussion, no matter what. Some of us disagree...but fill your boots. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
jbg Posted May 9, 2014 Report Posted May 9, 2014 I understand that you and bud both think "Israel!" should be inserted into every discussion, no matter what. Some of us disagree...but fill your boots. That's not fair. I am pointing out an egregious double-standard. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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