Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Protecting habitat is part of protecting a species. Climate change. Meh, why bother with our own habitat. Who said I don't think that climate change is a problem? Quote
Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 No. You aren't the end all and be all. Your discussion may convince or lean other opinions. Thats the point. I'm sorry if I don't provide the echo chamber that some of you would like, but unless you can provide evidence for an accusation, it's baseless and worthless. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Since it's our stuff, why not burn the damn stuff here? We probably have more efficient burners. We may need to pipeline it eastward so we don't need tankers from Saudi bringing the damn stuff in there. And in the meantime we think about ways not to have to burn the damn stuff. The likes of Exxon Mobil may not like it, but they may just have to evolve. Lord knows if anybody has the do re me to do so! Quote
Wilber Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Who said I don't think that climate change is a problem? Never said you don't. Just wondering why you can't make the connection between the importance of your habitat to you and the importance of other species habitat to them. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) There always has to be a balance between the economy and the environment? Where is that balance? Well, it isn't always clear. What is clear in regard to this exact issue is that the whale population is growing and that a less interventionist approach is needed, whether or not a pipeline is on the way. You don't designate a species and threatened if it isn't. Edited April 24, 2014 by Smallc Quote
Wilber Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Since it's our stuff, why not burn the damn stuff here? We probably have more efficient burners. We may need to pipeline it eastward so we don't need tankers from Saudi bringing the damn stuff in there. And in the meantime we think about ways not to have to burn the damn stuff. The likes of Exxon Mobil may not like it, but they may just have to evolve. Lord knows if anybody has the do re me to do so! How much crud is spewed into the atmosphere by tankers hauling crude from Saudi and how much more from tankers hauling it to China? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 How much crud is spewed into the atmosphere by tankers hauling crude from Saudi and how much more from tankers hauling it to China? We will be using it here. That's the point of Line and Energy East. We can also export it, which is why the Transmountain upgrade, Northern Gateway, and Keystone XL are all important. Too bad they won't all happen, as we could fill all of then. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 We will be using it here. That's the point of Line and Energy East. We can also export it, which is why the Transmountain upgrade, Northern Gateway, and Keystone XL are all important. Too bad they won't all happen, as we could fill all of then. And these comments seem to completely ignore the aspect of global warming. All that money won't help much if that comes true. Quote
Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 As has already been said by the state department and many others, the oil will come out of the ground no matter what, as we need it to run our planet given current technological and economic realities. Pipelines are the cleanest, safest and most efficient ways to get the oil to market. No matter how dangerous global warming is, progress as it is defined in the west isn't going to be stopped by it, so we might as well do things the best way possible, while also looking to new technologies for our future needs (atmospheric scrubbers, for example). Quote
Bryan Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 And these comments seem to completely ignore the aspect of global warming. All that money won't help much if that comes true. It won't help if the Zombie Apocalypse comes true either. Good thing both of those things are fiction. Quote
Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 It won't help if the Zombie Apocalypse comes true either. Good thing both of those things are fiction. Global warming is very real, and we need to take it very seriously. We are in a bit of a situation, but that doesn't mean that we halt progress. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 It won't help if the Zombie Apocalypse comes true either. Good thing both of those things are fiction. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 It won't help if the Zombie Apocalypse comes true either. Good thing both of those things are fiction. Oh and you have more knowledge than a panel of world renowned scientists who have no particular axe to grind? Talk about fiction. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Global warming is very real, and we need to take it very seriously. We are in a bit of a situation, but that doesn't mean that we halt progress. And is progress exposing BC's coastline so we can export oil to China so they can further pollute their enviroment. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 And is progress exposing BC's coastline so we can export oil to China so they can further pollute their enviroment. Yes, as it's defined by most of the world (though most of us wouldn't put it that way). Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Yes, as it's defined by most of the world (though most of us wouldn't put it that way). Well, obviously you don't live on the west coast. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Well, obviously you don't live on the west coast. It wouldn't matter where I lived. I'm not a nimby. Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 It wouldn't matter where I lived. I'm not a nimby. .....say most armchair QBs until people are peeking into their backyards. Quote
Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 I support economic activity that strengthens Canada. You do your best to prevent damage from that activity and move forward. Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 I support economic activity that strengthens Canada. You do your best to prevent damage from that activity and move forward.Got it shrug shoulders, rinse, repeat.I support economic activity that provides substantial benefit to Canada without irreparable damage to our longer term interests. I am very much NIMBY if you can't reduce my backyard risk to near zero while you sip mai thai(s) a thousand miles away with my royalty cheque. Quote
Wilber Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 I support economic activity that strengthens Canada. You do your best to prevent damage from that activity and move forward. Canadian style. Dig it out of the ground and get rid of it as quick as possible with the least amount of value added regardless of the environmental risks. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 No, again that's the point of line 9 and Energy East. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 Canadian style. Dig it out of the ground and get rid of it as quick as possible with the least amount of value added regardless of the environmental risks. Hewers of wood and drawers of water, yet again. Quote
Wilber Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 No, again that's the point of line 9 and Energy East. But not Northern Gateway or Kinder Morgan. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Smallc Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 And that's okay, because it's easier to shop one product to market than many Quote
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