Scotty Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) I'm not so sure. I never use the word myself, precisely because I don't wish to sound disrespectful...but as of now, it remains part of the official government and treaty language in some cases, so my understanding is that when used in terms of Status, treaties etc it is not meant disrespectfully. I don't like how they've appropriated the word. All of us who live here are native to and natives of Canada (our home and native land). I also don't like how on the one hand, we state that those who arrived here recently, i.e., immigrants, have the same rights, privileges, and are in every way shape and form, just as Canadians as those who were born here, even if their family has been here for ten generations. But on the other hand, we say that natives have more rights than us because they arrived here first. I'm not speaking of treaty rights. There seems to be an assumption, which you hear of repeatedly in threads like this, that this is really their land, and we are interlopers. No one is indigenous to this continent. All humans moved here from elsewhere. Edited April 17, 2014 by Scotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 I also don't like how on the one hand, we state that those who arrived here recently, i.e., immigrants, have the same rights, privileges,Anyone on CDN soil has the same rights. But on the other hand, we say that natives have more rights than usThey'd be wrong to say that. In some ways they have less rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Anyone on CDN soil has the same rights. They'd be wrong to say that. In some ways they have less rights. What ways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accountability Now Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Anyone on CDN soil has the same rights. They'd be wrong to say that. In some ways they have less rights. Looks like they're getting more rights. http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2613834 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Looks like they're getting more rights. http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2613834 I really don't understand how they have ANY rights other than those of any other Canadian. Did we sign any treaties with them? Nope. Are people whose ancesters are half German and half Italian to get a special designation too? Nope. Edited April 18, 2014 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Maybe if more people simply identified as being an Earthling all our differences would just fade away...before you know it we'd all be wondering what all the fuss was about and I bet going back to being different would be a lot harder to accomplish. At the end of the day we're all in precisely the same place, directly above the centre of the Earth. It's just a matter of perspective is all. Start sharing it and maybe like the proverbial joke that flies faster than a plane we'll all get it. Humanity needs a new starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Your own country places very tight restrictions on who is allowed to come there and good for you. They won't listen to any of this "we're all humans and the whole planet is our home"-babble. If you didn't apply such policies you would be totally inundated with hundreds of millions of people who would just love to live in Canada. Edited April 18, 2014 by -TSS- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Don't worry, I'm not under any illusions that we're about to break into a chorus of Kumbiya anytime soon. I do expect there will come a time when some people might regret not having given it a whirl but probably not until after the start of the next interregnum. I think another 50,000 years of social evolution will do us wonders but maybe we'll have to wait until the next Pangaea so we can even more undeniably say we're all in the same place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Don't worry, I'm not under any illusions that we're about to break into a chorus of Kumbiya anytime soon. I do expect there will come a time when some people might regret not having given it a whirl but probably not until after the start of the next interregnum. Do I regret not opening our doors so millions and millions of Indians and Chinese come here? Nope. Will I ever? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 That's not what I said you might regret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 As selfish and heartless it may sound the only way a country like Canada and a number of others, perhaps Finland too, can remain as very pleasant places to live is that they are like VIP-clubs which have very strict rules as to who can become new members; It's not impossible to become a new member but certain criteria must be met. That's the point we in Europe have lost the plot and we are a sinking continent. We are not considering our countries as VIP-clubs any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accountability Now Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 I really don't understand how they have ANY rights other than those of any other Canadian. Did we sign any treaties with them? Nope. Are people whose ancesters are half German and half Italian to get a special designation too? Nope. I couldn't agree with you more. It's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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