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Nazis attacked working people on behalf of the capitalists, as you know. All the rest was to get support from clowns.

On behalf of which "capitalists" did the Nazis attack "working people?" Or are your posts designed to be bizarre?
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I think calling the UK government "near Nazi-like" is about as posturing as you can get. JBG was rightfully pointing out that your hyperbole isn't helpful to your argument, which I may agree with.

Hows about 'millstone round English necks' ?

A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends

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Hows about 'millstone round English necks' ?

Scotland is a relatively poor region that pushes socialistic policies. It is not an asset, in current times,to the relatively more productive England.
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jbg - the German ones who paid them, obviously. Don't you know any history?

I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know if you do either.
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  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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Time to send in Nato. If the will of the people isn't good enough for the Crimea and the Southwest of the Ukraine then it's not good enough for Scotland.

We'll arm the IRA with short range rockets to make the Scots behave.

The nerve!

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I posted this on another thread but it seems Scotland itself isn't indivisible. The Shetland and Orkney Islands seem to want no part of and independant Scotland and are threatening to go their own way or stay in the UK if Scotland separates. Most of the Scotland's North Sea oil reserves would be in their territorial waters.

And to add the territorial claims to the Beatrice offshore wind-farm….to say nothing of the loss of their equivalent form of transfer payments……Scotland would strive to be a second world nation on it’s own….
Devolution or bust.
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It seems to me that whenever this topic is raised people seem to have way too exaggerated views of the importance of the North-Sea oil. Even if Scotland could have all of the revenue generated from it, it wouldn't be enough to make their economy sustainable.

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It seems to me that whenever this topic is raised people seem to have way too exaggerated views of the importance of the North-Sea oil. Even if Scotland could have all of the revenue generated from it, it wouldn't be enough to make their economy sustainable.

This is true, but without it and largess from the rest of the Kingdom, their road is only tougher to hoe.

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Derek 200 - the point, as with us, is that almost everything has been stolen from the people for hundreds of years, here, in Scotland and in England too. It just happens that the thieves tend to live in the Home Counties of the latter. My own notion is Independence with fair reparations - about a billion per head in our case, I'd guess.

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jbg. You asked a question and I gave the obvious answer, which all educated people accept. If you find it hard in this one, try another language.

I am not going to hunt for the exchange to which you are referring. Use the quote post function please. Also I speak English, not Canadian.
  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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Scotland is a relatively poor region that pushes socialistic policies. It is not an asset, in current times,to the relatively more productive England.

But not a millstone round English necks?

A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends

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But not a millstone round English necks?

I don't quite get the point of your post.
  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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Derek 200 - the point, as with us, is that almost everything has been stolen from the people for hundreds of years, here, in Scotland and in England too. It just happens that the thieves tend to live in the Home Counties of the latter. My own notion is Independence with fair reparations - about a billion per head in our case, I'd guess.

Blaablaablaa

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TSS - we fuelled, for instance, the British fleet from the Rhondda for sixty years, and what have we got for it?. Let's have that money paid, for a bloody start! Now piss off and baaaa in the next field!

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For England an independent Scotland would be great. A lot like ridding a millstone such as Quebec.

It's not always strictly about economics jbg. In any case you are going to have to be consistent with your stand on the Crime separating from the Ukraine.

You and me pal, the people's choice needs to be heard and acted upon!

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It's not always strictly about economics jbg.

If you pay taxes it often is.

In any case you are going to have to be consistent with your stand on the Crime (sic) separating from the Ukraine.

Just about every country would like to have "crime" separated from the rest of the country.

You and me pal, the people's choice needs to be heard and acted upon!

Not always. Take Quebec. There are minorities such as English-speakers who bargained for rights as Canadians and don't want to trust the government of some breakaway republic to protect them. Ditto the U.S. south. The former Negro slaves have done a lot better as a result of the Union winning the Civil War than they would have done under the Confederacy.

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  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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If you pay taxes it often is.

Just about every country would like to have "crime" separated from the rest of the country.

Not always. Take Quebec. There are minorities such as English-speakers who bargained for rights as Canadians and don't want to trust the government of some breakaway republic to protect them. Ditto the U.S. south. The former Negro slaves have done a lot better as a result of the Union winning the Civil War than they would have done under the Confederacy.

First of all I'm going to have to ask you to not add to what I say and then quote it as mine. Thanks.

I'll take Quebec as an example where there wasn't enough choice to separate voiced by the people. Had it been anything near the solidarity shown by the people of the Crimea then it would have undoubtedly happened. Would Canada send in the military to stop the people from exercising their rights? Probably not. When it's as clear cut as it was with the Crimean peninsula it's really quite pointless. This fact alone should convince the US/Nato to back off of their support of the illegitimate Ukraine government in it's quest to infringe further on Russia. There's really no other reason for this trouble is there.

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First of all I'm going to have to ask you to not add to what I say and then quote it as mine. Thanks.

"Sic" is an editing term that means "as written." I did not "add" to what you wrote.

I'll take Quebec as an example where there wasn't enough choice to separate voiced by the people. Had it been anything near the solidarity shown by the people of the Crimea then it would have undoubtedly happened. Would Canada send in the military to stop the people from exercising their rights? Probably not. When it's as clear cut as it was with the Crimean peninsula it's really quite pointless. This fact alone should convince the US/Nato to back off of their support of the illegitimate Ukraine government in it's quest to infringe further on Russia. There's really no other reason for this trouble is there.

You evaded my recitation of the rights of American blacks. Would you return them to the plantation?
  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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jbg, Once again I'm going to have to ask you to not post anything that is quoting me when you have altered it in any way. I consider it a violation of the rules and I will put it to the test if you do it again. Thanks.

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jbg, Once again I'm going to have to ask you to not post anything that is quoting me when you have altered it in any way. I consider it a violation of the rules and I will put it to the test if you do it again. Thanks.

When did I do that?
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  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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